Injury The OFFICIAL Injury Updates thread - 2 weeks

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DEVO said:
Very interesting video. Even though we have been reasonably healthy this season compared to previous, it has been unfortunate that most of our injuries have been to players from our midfield group.
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Why unfortunate?
Our midfield is probably the one third of the ground where we have some level of depth to cover injuries. If Logue or Larkey had been injured, our results would have been much worse as we don't have KPFs or KPDs to replace them.
 

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giantroo said:
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When we we were making finals runs in 2016 and 2018, I dreaded approaching May and the colder months as that was when the hammies, calf, injuries etc began to build up.
We’d lose Waite or Higgins or someone critically important to the side and the year would turn to shit.
Geelong is copping it this year. Nowhere near it.
You can see round 7 onwards for us that they pick up and become a weekly occurrence.

Only gotta look at local levels and figure out how critical a cold Tuesday night training session could be in contributing to a soft tissue injury.

It’s why preseasons are so bloody important. Do the work and your body can deal with the intensity of weekly games.

If you can win enough matches early on you can then rest and manage your senior players so that they aren’t playing every week and the collective can get you through to the bye.
Then after the mid season break, the back end of the season sees hardly any training done during the week and loads are severely reduced to the point of just getting up for weekends.
Depending on where you are on the ladder you can prime yourself for a finals run.

If a player can’t get any work in pre Christmas then don’t expect them to do much at all come season launch.
Tucker, Archer, McKay, Hall all had interrupted preseasons for different reasons and none are anywhere near peak form.
 
King Corey said:
That was an excellent video. If anyone from the club reads this - kudos for taking the time to make that for the tragic North nerds out there.
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Interesting to see the methodology, 'things we control' and 'things we can't'. The performance metrics on the first are pretty good, and I imagine on the second category, they assess themselves on how quickly they can get players back. As you say, good product for nuffies like us
 
Merlin007 said:
Interesting to see the methodology, 'things we control' and 'things we can't'. The performance metrics on the first are pretty good, and I imagine on the second category, they assess themselves on how quickly they can get players back. As you say, good product for nuffies like us
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It was very candid and accountable re the "avoidable" injuries too.
 
tazaa said:
When we we were making finals runs in 2016 and 2018, I dreaded approaching May and the colder months as that was when the hammies, calf, injuries etc began to build up.
We’d lose Waite or Higgins or someone critically important to the side and the year would turn to s**t.
Geelong is copping it this year. Nowhere near it.
You can see round 7 onwards for us that they pick up and become a weekly occurrence.

Only gotta look at local levels and figure out how critical a cold Tuesday night training session could be in contributing to a soft tissue injury.

It’s why preseasons are so bloody important. Do the work and your body can deal with the intensity of weekly games.

If you can win enough matches early on you can then rest and manage your senior players so that they aren’t playing every week and the collective can get you through to the bye.
Then after the mid season break, the back end of the season sees hardly any training done during the week and loads are severely reduced to the point of just getting up for weekends.
Depending on where you are on the ladder you can prime yourself for a finals run.

If a player can’t get any work in pre Christmas then don’t expect them to do much at all come season launch.
Tucker, Archer, McKay, Hall all had interrupted preseasons for different reasons and none are anywhere near peak form.
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always felt the year doggies won it if we didn't get half a team injured we would've won it. that was the worst run of injuries we've had.
 
hellas_johnny said:
always felt the year doggies won it if we didn't get half a team injured we would've won it. that was the worst run of injuries we've had.
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Bit all year the focus was on the doggies and their injuries
 
hellas_johnny said:
always felt the year doggies won it if we didn't get half a team injured we would've won it. that was the worst run of injuries we've had.
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Not half the team. Ben Jacobs. That campaigner was a ****ing animal and hurt the other way 10 X harder, beautiful by foot, smart by hand.. Such a gun he was.

My favourite player to watch through those years. Was so good.

Lets just say, Wardlaw is probably going to bring this with longevity
 
hellas_johnny said:
always felt the year doggies won it if we didn't get half a team injured we would've won it. that was the worst run of injuries we've had.
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Yeah same.
 

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DuckYeah said:
Not half the team. Ben Jacobs. That campaigner was a ******* animal and hurt the other way 10 X harder, beautiful by foot, smart by hand.. Such a gun he was.

My favourite player to watch through those years. Was so good.

Lets just say, Wardlaw is probably going to bring this with longevity
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We lost Higgo, who won back to back Syds in the following two years; w80 who was as good as any forward in the comp at the time; BJ, whose tagging, well run with footy actually, made all the difference cos he wouldn't just shut out the oppo player he'd take them on and beat them. Then a whole bunch of other injuries. LMac for a while, Ben Brown and Mason Wood (in the best form he ever showed too) about 15 other players as well for varying amounts of time.
 
ferball said:
We lost Higgo, who won back to back Syds in the following two years; w80 who was as good as any forward in the comp at the time; BJ, whose tagging, well run with footy actually, made all the difference cos he wouldn't just shut out the oppo player he'd take them on and beat them. Then a whole bunch of other injuries. LMac for a while, Ben Brown and Mason Wood (in the best form he ever showed too) about 15 other players as well for varying amounts of time.
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Please stop, that and the delistings that followed made it too hard a year to relive.
 
ferball said:
We lost Higgo, who won back to back Syds in the following two years; w80 who was as good as any forward in the comp at the time; BJ, whose tagging, well run with footy actually, made all the difference cos he wouldn't just shut out the oppo player he'd take them on and beat them. Then a whole bunch of other injuries. LMac for a while, Ben Brown and Mason Wood (in the best form he ever showed too) about 15 other players as well for varying amounts of time.
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Look I understand Higgo and W80 as a big loss in that time (I feel like writing a letter to him and asking him to come back). If we can have levels of impact. Jacobs was the one for me. Then next level of demise was Higgins. He was a ripping player.

Anyone who claims we didn’t have a list worthy of a flag is cooked. Our list was ****ing awesome in those days.
 
ferball said:
We lost Higgo, who won back to back Syds in the following two years; w80 who was as good as any forward in the comp at the time; BJ, whose tagging, well run with footy actually, made all the difference cos he wouldn't just shut out the oppo player he'd take them on and beat them. Then a whole bunch of other injuries. LMac for a while, Ben Brown and Mason Wood (in the best form he ever showed too) about 15 other players as well for varying amounts of time.
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The biggest loss was Cunnington. Dal Santo was also flying before he got injured.
 
LuvtheKangas said:
The biggest loss was Cunnington. Dal Santo was also flying before he got injured.
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Half time v Geelong. It seemed it all went downhill from there. Only missed one other game too.
 
I always felt losing Sam Wright down in Hobart against Richmond was the beginning of the end. He, like us we’re never the same. When Jacobs went down it was all over. W80 was just the kick in the guts.
 


The AFL will next year mandate club injury lists with specific return dates for sidelined stars to give fans greater clarity on the health of their team.
Geelong has this year put out a series of official injury lists which are particularly vague, with players either out for the short term, medium-term or long-term.

While the Cats are adamant their club injury updates and comments from coach Chris Scott provide great transparency, their fan base has been less welcoming of the injury lists.

The Cats’ injury list this week contains eight players but not a single timeline with weeks attached to players’ likely return.

Coach Chris Scott is famous for the club’s late team changes in big games, which are all legal under the AFL’s rules.

The Herald Sun can reveal the AFL will introduce a concrete set of guidelines which ensure clubs provide updated weekly return dates for players next year.

The league is aware at times those guesstimates can blow out as players suffer injury setbacks.

But it wants greater transparency for its fans, many of whom compete in fantasy competitions including the Herald Sun’s Supercoach competition.

In the NFL clubs can face significant financial penalties for not listing injured players under the league’s personnel (injury) report policy.

The policy states: “The information must be credible, accurate, timely, and specific within the guidelines of the policy, which is of paramount importance in maintaining the integrity of the game.”

Geelong was famously vague about its injuries in the Mark Thompson era, with football boss Neil Balme joking referring to many players’ return date as an all-encompassing “two to three weeks”.

But while Cam Guthrie is listed on the official Cats injury list as “medium term”, the Cats believe they have made it quite clear that he would only return in the week before the finals series commences.

The AFL has communicated its imminent crackdown to Geelong this week.

Geelong football boss Simon Lloyd said on Thursday the club was attempting to be as transparent as it could around its injuries.

He said the club’s challenge was that often medium-term and long-term injuries were hard to define with exact return dates to the AFL.

While some clubs rarely provide updates outside that official injury report, Lloyd often gives media specific updates about the timeline on injured players.

But the league wants fans to be able to track the progress of injured players through their Tuesday updates with a specific estimate of the weeks they are likely to be sidelined.

Geelong’s Esava Ratugolea will return through the seniors next week after his own hamstring issue, while the Cats are hopeful Patrick Dangerfield will be ready to take on Sydney.

He needs more testing early next week but Geelong is hopeful his partially collapsed lung will have fully reinflated in time for him to fly to Sydney for that bumper Friday night clash.
 
OK so I don't follow the Cats close enough, but we can now say confidently, its a Scott thing.
 

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