Beauty & Style The sleeve tattoo..its about to jump the shark

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I don't understand the thought process of its going to look shit when you are old. No shit I'm going to look like shit no matter if I have tattoos or not. I got my first tattoo because it meant something and I've got 5 now mostly because I'm addicted to the feeling I don't know what it is about being tattooed but it feels fantastic. All of mine except 1 have some sort of reason the other was because I love the design. I plan on getting both sleeves done and my chest done and maybe venture towards my legs.
 
I don't understand the thought process of its going to look shit when you are old. No shit I'm going to look like shit no matter if I have tattoos or not.
That's a cop out.

Please don't tell me when you see 60 year olds in a shopping centre with tatts that they don't look horrendous. Conversely if you see a 60 year old with out tatts guess what? you don't notice them. You don't notice how ugly their arms are because you're not looking at them going "eww, those tatts look shit gramps"

You know the designs go out of fashion too right? Seen Troy Makepeace lately? Kevin Pieterson? Spide Everitt? Any slurry that got the tramp stamp in at the turn of the century?

Not sure why people can't see the pattern? The mere concept of fashion (the reason so many get them these days) guarantees that tatts will go out of fashion all together before long.


I got my first tattoo because it meant something
Also another massive cop out. People who say "yes but I got it and it means something" is even more shitter than anything a dick spanking hipster would say.

So if do think you got it because it "means something" (trust me, you didn't) just don't say it so people don't secretly think you're a spack.

and I've got 5 now mostly because I'm addicted to the feeling I don't know what it is about being tattooed but it feels fantastic.
Probably makes you feel like a hero. "Look at how much of a bad Syd I am" or "Look how cool I am".


All of mine except 1 have some sort of reason the other was because I love the design. I plan on getting both sleeves done and my chest done and maybe venture towards my legs.
Make sure you're comfortable that half the population will assume you're a douche without knowing you.
 
Make sure you're comfortable that half the population will assume you're a douche without knowing you.


Are you comfortable with that?
 
Times are changing quicky, tattoos are obviously much more mainstream than they used to be.

People no longer assume the person is a dickhead or a criminal.

Maybe old people like you do, but you'll all be dead soon, so it doesn't really matter.

That's not how it works.

The dickhead/criminal/bogan stigma disappeared mid 90s went tatts started becoming mainstream. Then we went through a period where lots of people go them. Posers as well as bogans. Some had tatts that looked okay on them but most either looked like try hard posers or bogans.

Now let me explain fashion. No need to google this - it's common knowledge:

High End fashion
The things that are really fashionable are the things only a select group of people wear. It used to be LV, Chanel and all that stuff and the price locked the masses out (for a while). These high end brands were about "I can afford them so can prance around and distinguish myself as in an elite cool group". Now the high end fashion is wearing shit that normal people would feel like a w***er in. You can't just buy it anymore.

Mass generic Fashion
Then there's ordinary fashion for the masses - skinny chinos are in, thigh length shorts are in etc. The sort of stuff every young kid has to wear within their local environment not to appear like a dork.

You know both these group's fashion changes, right? There are two reasons why:

1. Everyone is wearing it and it no longer puts you in the small elite cool group. Think Dr Zeus's Sneetches with Stars on their Bellies. As soon as the market was flooded with counterfeits of high end brands, no one wanted to wear it anymore because because every Sharon, Tracy, and Donna from Ringwood were getting around in Chanel, LV, Gucci etc.

2. OAs people get older they get fatter and uglier and make the clothes they are wearing look lamer and new generations need to forge a new identity. Case in point surf clothes, knee length shorts. Was fashionable but then when every 40 year old was still wearing it it became "uncool old people Dad clothes.

So lets have a look at tatts:

Does every one have them? Are loser looking uncool people now sporting them too? Check.

Will masses of uncool old people and Dads be sporting them soon? Will a new generation come in and want to define their own rules? Check.


Tatts: going to look pretty uncool soon.

So congats on your "tatts are becoming more mainstream" observation. Welcome to 2005. They are close to jumping the shark.
 
Right. So your point is that in 20 years tattoos won't be "in fashion", and thus the then older generation will be unfashionable?
Earlier. The biggest losers (assumingly these peole are fashion conscious and you can guarantee a large percentage got the tatt to create an exterior image) will be the younger people getting one now.

As sure as death and taxes we know fashion changes. When? Unsure but tatts have been in fashion for 15 years now. Styles have changed in that time as have places to put them. Apparently latest cool spot has changed from behind the ear to on the ear. How much furhter can it go?

So for arguments sake, let pick a hypothetical time frame they will go out of fashion: let's just agree on 5 years for the sake of the exercise.

In 5 years, the masses that got tatts will be in 40s. History shows us new generation drive change in fashion. 5 years ago, kneee length type cargo-ey shorts and Hurley shorts were replaced by peach and other pastel coloured tight thigh length shorts. For no other reason than a change had to be made. had to go somewhere.

So if we use out hypothetic expiry date as 5 years then all new 18-20 year old kids will be cleanskins. They will be the cool kids and will sneer at any has been bogan who it 40+ with a tatt. And make no mistake, they will be nasty about it like very new generation before them. They will be muttering to themselves "has a tatt, what a try hard boge. Thinks he looks like a bad arse biker or something". Once you get past 40 you become comfortable with being uncool (that's not saying your tatts will not look lamo though). They real losers will be the guys who are now 25 with tatts and still fashion conscious. Will suck to be them.

Parents are always unfashionable by the standards of the next generation. How will it be any different?
That's my whole point. it will be the same. Like clockwork.

The one thing that makes me laugh is a lot of people get tatts and delude themselves they aren't a fashion victim. "I got it because it means something". F*** off, you got that tatt behind your ear because it's the latest fashion. I don't see people getting tribal bands any more, Why? Because it's not in fashion.

We don't all go buy the latest fashionable jeans, shorts, shoes and then go "my jeans are deep man. They mean something". We accept we are buying that particular brand because of fashion.

tatts are fashion and just as we have seen tatt design fashion change and tatt placement trend change, we will see the whole thing go out of fashion.
 

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Thanks for your opinion. I will take it on board.
I very much doubt that. Tell me something else that you are right about, and everyone is else wrong about oh wise one.
 
Hold on. Are people actually disputing the notion that sleeve tattoos are a fashion item?

What, you think the numbers of people getting them is simply going to increase to a point of saturation and that each year a new crop of kids are going to get them when they hit 18?

This is the new normal?

Do people out there seriously believe this?
 
I very much doubt that. Tell me something else that you are right about, and everyone is else wrong about oh wise one.

Don't take my word for it. Go do your own research. I think you'll find fashion is like clock work and everyone knows it.

Maybe you excepted given you still wear tie-die t-shirts and have ear rings.
 
Hold on. Are people actually disputing the notion that sleeve tattoos are a fashion item?

What, you think the numbers of people getting them is simply going to increase to a point of saturation and that each year a new crop of kids are going to get them when they hit 18?

This is the new normal?

Do people out there seriously believe this?

You'll find some people are just arguing because they want to argue with me. They know how it works. Maybe Gough doesn't.
 
I don't know how it works because I like to keep an open mind on most things, you on the other hand are one of the most closed minded people I have ever come across. To be honest I feel real pity for you, to go through life with the amount of inner rage that you appear to have, must be emotionally and cosmically exhausting.
 
I don't know how it works because I like to keep an open mind on most things, you on the other hand are one of the most closed minded people I have ever come across. To be honest I feel real pity for you, to go through life with the amount of inner rage that you appear to have, must be emotionally and cosmically exhausting.

Having a realistic understanding of something doesn't mean close mindedness. You're just upset because you know you're an old dag and are having trouble coping with it.

tie-die and ear rings<points and laughs>
 
Hold on. Are people actually disputing the notion that sleeve tattoos are a fashion item?

What, you think the numbers of people getting them is simply going to increase to a point of saturation and that each year a new crop of kids are going to get them when they hit 18?

This is the new normal?

Do people out there seriously believe this?

Dunno.

People get them for reasons of fashion, obviously.

But I don't think you definitely say that they'll behave the same as a clothing fashion will (life cycle etc) - I don't think they've been mainstream long enough for us to know yet. I wouldn't say they're yet "out of fashion".

Bunsen thinks they will, but then again he knows everything and can predict the future.
 
Dunno.

People get them for reasons of fashion, obviously.
Like most of them.

I appreciate some are genuine but I can't take anyone seriously who's running around looking like a try hard rocking a whole image (not just the tatt) and then has the audacity to say "I didn't get it for fashion, it means something".

But I don't think you definitely say that they'll behave the same as a clothing fashion will (life cycle etc) - I don't think they've been mainstream long enough for us to know yet. I wouldn't say they're yet "out of fashion".
Still in fashion. Trend is allegedly moving to ear. I read it in an article so no doubt a bunch of try hard will run out and do just that.

I used the hypothetical of 5 years because it's my best guess. Could be 1 year. Could be 10.

Bunsen thinks they will, but then again he knows everything and can predict the future.
Patterns. Allow us to make education and well informed opinions.

Ask yourself how many things have stayed in fashion over time. LBD? Denim jeans. A few staples but not a lot else.
 

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