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What kind of stadium do you want?

  • A roof with retractable seats suited to soccer/NRL

    Votes: 80 57.1%

  • No roof with retractable seats

    Votes: 4 2.9%

  • No roof, no retractable seats but covered stands for wind prevention

    Votes: 24 17.1%

  • No roof, no retractable seats, but higher capacity than the 23k reported

    Votes: 32 22.9%
  • Total voters
    140

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Here is my run down on the documents released for the proposed stadium.

All of the documents are available here:

Macquarie Point Multipurpose Stadium Integrated Assessment – Tasmanian Planning Commission Website

www.planning.tas.gov.au www.planning.tas.gov.au

This is a great design. The spectator facilities will be very good. The transport planning is similar to Perth Stadium and will hopefully provide people with a relaxed trip to and from the stadium without the car.

This is clearly the best location for the stadium.

The roof has been designed for a capacity expansion. Earlier images suggested the top tier of seating would not all initially be built, allowing them to be gradually built and expanding capacity. It now seems like it is all built to begin with. There is no details in the documents as to how the capacity can be expanded.


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Some of the studies such as for utilities and transport, contemplated the venue having a 40,000 capacity in concert mode to ensure the site can handle future expansion. This reflects a future capacity in AFL mode of about 32,000.



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For some reason they’ve decided to build the stadium with the AFL field in a north-south orientation. This is the same as Adelaide Oval and the SCG. The MCG and Perth Stadium have the AFL field in an east-west orientation.

Whilst AFL does not have a prescribed orientation for the field, cricket requires the wicket pitch to run north-south. Rugby prefers to orientate north-south for goals, but is a lot more flexible than cricket.

The orientation at Perth Stadium and the MCG allows the same media facilities to be used for both cricket and AFL. AFL media (including TV cameras like to be on the wing, whilst cricket media is behind the stumps. This was a deliberate decision in the case for Perth Stadium and detailed in their design reports.

For Hobart Stadium they are proposing separate media facilities for the two sports, meaning a large chunk of seating capacity is lost where the separate cricket media facilities are put. Not rotating the oval 90 degrees to be the same as Perth Stadium and MCG is unfortunate, as spectator capacity is reduced by about 1,000 seats for a duplication of media facilities that results in one sitting empty whilst the other is used.



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kranger said:
Here is my run down on the documents released for the proposed stadium.

All of the documents are available here:

Macquarie Point Multipurpose Stadium Integrated Assessment – Tasmanian Planning Commission Website

www.planning.tas.gov.au www.planning.tas.gov.au

This is a great design. The spectator facilities will be very good. The transport planning is similar to Perth Stadium and will hopefully provide people with a relaxed trip to and from the stadium without the car.

This is clearly the best location for the stadium.

The roof has been designed for a capacity expansion. Earlier images suggested the top tier of seating would not all initially be built, allowing them to be gradually built and expanding capacity. It now seems like it is all built to begin with. There is no details in the documents as to how the capacity can be expanded.


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Some of the studies such as for utilities and transport, contemplated the venue having a 40,000 capacity in concert mode to ensure the site can handle future expansion. This reflects a future capacity in AFL mode of about 32,000.



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For some reason they’ve decided to build the stadium with the AFL field in a north-south orientation. This is the same as Adelaide Oval and the SCG. The MCG and Perth Stadium have the AFL field in an east-west orientation.

Whilst AFL does not have a prescribed orientation for the field, cricket requires the wicket pitch to run north-south. Rugby prefers to orientate north-south for goals, but is a lot more flexible than cricket.

The orientation at Perth Stadium and the MCG allows the same media facilities to be used for both cricket and AFL. AFL media (including TV cameras like to be on the wing, whilst cricket media is behind the stumps. This was a deliberate decision in the case for Perth Stadium and detailed in their design reports.

For Hobart Stadium they are proposing separate media facilities for the two sports, meaning a large chunk of seating capacity is lost where the separate cricket media facilities are put. Not rotating the oval 90 degrees to be the same as Perth Stadium and MCG is unfortunate, as spectator capacity is reduced by about 1,000 seats for a duplication of media facilities that results in one sitting empty whilst the other is used.



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Very good post, exciting times ahead. Wish we could fast forward to this.
 
Mr Tassie said:
I'm sorry if I'm sounding a bit negative, but I think we have to be realistical on the chance's of this going ahead and that is why a renegotiation will likely be required.
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Understandable but almost every post? I will begin deleting if I have to. Once more it’s happening until told otherwise.
 

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Mr Tassie said:
I'm sorry if I'm sounding a bit negative, but I think we have to be realistical on the chance's of this going ahead and that is why a renegotiation will likely be required.
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There will be no "renegotiation", because there doesn't need to be.
 
Mr Tassie said:
I just don't understand how you can be so certain. The stadium is expected to run at a deficit so don't you think the Projects Of State Significance will look at that negatively. I also heard earlier that while the upper house will easily vote it through if recommended, the lower house will be less likely to have the numbers. I know you don't believe a renegotiation is possible but I think we will find the afl would look bad if they weren't willing to do it.
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Because the stadium is intrinsically tied to so many other things other than the direct financial operation of it. It might improve quality of life in the state. It is necessary to have an AFL team. There won't be an AFL team without it.
 
Truetiger said:
Please note

We have threads on the Mainboard and SRP for other supporters to argue the rights and wrongs or discuss the politics of the Stadium or the team.
Don’t come here to stir up arguements.
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Sorry I thought this was about discussing the positives and negatives,can you tell me the name of these other threads?
 
Truetiger said:
it is but every post moved to here

Hobart stadium Likely POSS outcome or Updates

I'm just interested to know if people think the POSS will recommend the stadium for approval or they will find it too risky for Tasmania and recommend it's knocked back?
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Completely non-sensical. This thread is titled “The Stadium”. I don’t find what he is posting as argumentative at all.

Does every post have to be glowing about the stadium?

I guess I’m now arguing so I guess I’ll be thrown to a thread where no one is posting also.

Enjoy your echo chamber.
 
Hodgey 15 said:
Interestingly Macq Point playing field is pretty close to what Marvel's is:
Macq Point: 159.5m x 128.5m
Marvel 160m x 129
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That was one of the ideas, base it of what we already new, as far as "roofed infrastructure" went, eg Marvel;
 
BoomerRoo said:
That was one of the ideas, base it of what we already new, as far as "roofed infrastructure" went, eg Marvel;
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I reckon it will end up one of the best venues for atmosphere to watch. Closer to the action the better.
 
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