The Stadium!

[Bjo187]

'Worth the money': MP David O'Byrne stands by divisive Hobart stadium plans - ABC listen

Independent Tasmanian MP David O'Byrne says he still supports Hobart's Macquarie Point stadium, despite a recent report claiming 'mismanagement' of the project and a potential cost of over $1.1 billion.

www.abc.net.au

This bloke makes a lot of sense.

 

[Hodgey 15]

'Worth the money': MP David O'Byrne stands by divisive Hobart stadium plans - ABC listen

Independent Tasmanian MP David O'Byrne says he still supports Hobart's Macquarie Point stadium, despite a recent report claiming 'mismanagement' of the project and a potential cost of over $1.1 billion.

www.abc.net.au

This bloke makes a lot of sense.

Yeah. He does.
Should of been Premier before he got hijacked by is own party - well hijacked by a particular ex-Labor leader I should say.

 

[nobbyiscool]

Yeah. He does.
Should of been Premier before he got hijacked by is own party.

What's with people trying to re-write O'Byrne's history?

He, his stupidity, his ego, and his dick were the author of his demise, not the Labor Party.

We could quibble about them blocking his return to being an endorsed Labor Party candidate, but it was pretty naive of him to ever think that could happen.

 

[Hodgey 15]

Macquarie Point project draws ‘extraordinary interest’ from investors worldwide​

Macquarie Point project draws ‘extraordinary interest’ from investors worldwide

‘We are very encouraged by the level of interest that we’ve had from the investor community’…

pulsetasmania.com.au

 

[Pure_Ownage]

'Worth the money': MP David O'Byrne stands by divisive Hobart stadium plans - ABC listen

Independent Tasmanian MP David O'Byrne says he still supports Hobart's Macquarie Point stadium, despite a recent report claiming 'mismanagement' of the project and a potential cost of over $1.1 billion.

www.abc.net.au

This bloke makes a lot of sense.

So his idea of dealing with a poor deal is no accountability by the people that made it?
If he believes so strongly that the project must go ahead in this form maybe he and everyone within various parties who were involved in signing off on such a poor deal should take accountability for that and resign. That would show that they actually really care about the issue. The rest of his interview is just cheap talk backed up by no action.

 

[madmug]

So his idea of dealing with a poor deal is no accountability by the people that made it?
If he believes so strongly that the project must go ahead in this form maybe he and everyone within various parties who were involved in signing off on such a poor deal should take accountability for that and resign. That would show that they actually really care about the issue. The rest of his interview is just cheap talk backed up by no action.

Accountability is at the ballot box. Otherwise its just opinionated squeaky wheel stuff. We have that tradition here. Its about not building things a noisy minority don't like.

 

[peetoo]

Tassie politics is what it is. I fully expect the team (when it arrives) injury lists etc to be main topics in their parliament.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Accountability is at the ballot box. Otherwise its just opinionated squeaky wheel stuff. We have that tradition here. Its about not building things a noisy minority don't like.

Accountability isn't just at the ballot box everyone needs to have their own self accountability (that's what ethics are) so IF the deal is as bad as it looks (and I say IF) then clearly some of those people are fair dinkum then they should resign for their lack of performance. That's fair.

But while we are on your subject this is why some politicians make such more decisions and don't take ownership because unfortunately at the ballot box not enough people make them accountable. We have poor education systems and people don't critically think well enough, and the media doesn't report or present facts well enough so these and other factors lead to people not holding politicians accountable enough.

 

[Saucery]

Accountability is at the ballot box. Otherwise its just opinionated squeaky wheel stuff. We have that tradition here. Its about not building things a noisy minority don't like.

I guess that's a Hobart tradition because in the north that's just BS. Gutwein and then Rockcliff fought tooth and nail to hide details of the project. This lead to two Liberal senators to quit the party over this very issue, throwing the government into minority.

So Rockcliff called an early election based on this project and lost even more seats and now cannot pass any legislation without the support of Labor (who have promised to keep him to his original costings) and several independents.

Sounds like the people, not just your 'noisy minority' had their say, right?

 

[madmug]

I guess that's a Hobart tradition because in the north that's just BS. Gutwein and then Rockcliff fought tooth and nail to hide details of the project. This lead to two Liberal senators to quit the party over this very issue, throwing the government into minority.

So Rockcliff called an early election based on this project and lost even more seats and now cannot pass any legislation without the support of Labor (who have promised to keep him to his original costings) and several independents.

Sounds like the people, not just your 'noisy minority' had their say, right?

If you remember, the ALP opposed the stadium & gained hardly any more votes. Now they support a stadium!. So clearly more was involved in the elector's minds than just the stadium.

 

[BoomerRoo]

I guess that's a Hobart tradition because in the north that's just BS. 1: Gutwein and then Rockcliff fought tooth and nail to hide details of the project. 2: This lead to two Liberal senators to quit the party over this very issue, throwing the government into minority.

So Rockcliff called an early election based on this project and lost even more seats and now cannot pass any legislation without the support of Labor (who have promised to keep him to his original costings) and several independents.

Sounds like the people, not just your 'noisy minority' had their say, right?

1: To say Jeremy and Peter "fought tooth and nail to hide details of the project" is counterfactual.

2: Go do some investigation in to why John Tucker really chucked his toys out of the cot. I'll give you a hint, "Ansons Bay, 1,800 hectares and a seat on the front bench". As for Lara, oh boy, does she have some different views on "life" and with 511 votes, should never have got elected!

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[nobbyiscool]

A potentially very, very, very interesting evening for the pro-stadium lobby in Hobart...

Although maybe they should consider building the roof higher...

 

[sherb]

A potentially very, very, very interesting evening for the pro-stadium lobby in Hobart...

Although maybe they should consider building the roof higher...

I was wondering how last night's event would have gone in the new stadium.

Was there enough interest in the final locally for it to have sold out there as well?

 

[Not Important]

there was a piece on the development on sen today. had a quick look and can’t readily find it. but there are issues with cost blowouts and some other decisions relating to the construction. the reporter said there may have to be alternate arrangements in the interim like using of the launceston stadium which is undergoing some development. doubt the afl will cop this if accurate as the start-up is contingent on the new stadium being finished.

 

[Teen Wolf]

there was a piece on the development on sen today. had a quick look and can’t readily find it. but there are issues with cost blowouts and some other decisions relating to the construction. the reporter said there may have to be alternate arrangements in the interim like using of the launceston stadium which is undergoing some development. doubt the afl will cop this if accurate as the start-up is contingent on the new stadium being finished.

It's not contingent on the new stadium being finished. If there are delays, the Tas govt just has to pay the AFL $4.5m/year.

 

[BoomerRoo]

there was a piece on the development on sen today. had a quick look and can’t readily find it. but there are issues with cost blowouts and some other decisions relating to the construction. the reporter said there may have to be alternate arrangements in the interim like using of the launceston stadium which is undergoing some development. doubt the afl will cop this if accurate as the start-up is contingent on the new stadium being finished.

That was Geeva talking about the game last night, they asked him about the stadium, he answered with “I’ve heard very little about it” but then suggested if it was behind schedule, Bellerive & York Park would fill the “void” if needed… abridged version [emoji38]


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[Hodgey 15]

Hurricanes' sell-out win proves need for 23,000-seat Macquarie Point stadium, says Premier​

Hurricanes’ sell-out win proves need for 23,000-seat Macquarie Point stadium

Premier: If we had a 23,000-seat stadium at Macquarie Point, we’d have filled it to the brink…

pulsetasmania.com.au

It's always worth reading for a laugh the comments from the misinformed and uninformed muppets in articles like this referring to stadium.

 

[peetoo]

If you have a afl prelim in 23000 stadium. People will be excluded too

Full hous is encouraging. But let’s not go Gaga

 

[madmug]

I was wondering how last night's event would have gone in the new stadium.

Was there enough interest in the final locally for it to have sold out there as well?

Bellerive was sold out in 10minutes.

 

[footyscribe]

Ninja and Utas were always going to be used in 2028, with Macquarie Point to come online for the start of 2029.

If not, then they’ll use Ninja and UTas for that season too with the Tasmanian Government to pay the Devils $4.5m extra, to make up for lost revenue from not playing at MP.

They can theoretically play at existing grounds for several seasons if the government is happy to keep funding it, but doing so for any longer than 1-2 years would be robbing the club, not to mention severely diminish its appeal to sponsors, players, members etc.

Its estimated that each year the stadium is delayed, $80m is added to the build cost too.

A 7-4 Utas/Ninja split in year one is fine, not ideal but workable in year two but unacceptable by 2030.

 

[nobbyiscool]

Hurricanes' sell-out win proves need for 23,000-seat Macquarie Point stadium, says Premier​

Hurricanes’ sell-out win proves need for 23,000-seat Macquarie Point stadium

Premier: If we had a 23,000-seat stadium at Macquarie Point, we’d have filled it to the brink…

pulsetasmania.com.au

It's always worth reading for a laugh the comments from the misinformed and uninformed muppets in articles like this referring to stadium.

This was the most predictable set of quotes I've ever seen

 

[Not Important]

It's not contingent on the new stadium being finished. If there are delays, the Tas govt just has to pay the AFL $4.5m/year.

that would be a political suicide note. particularly on top of the alleged cost blowout.

 

[madmug]

that would be a political suicide note. particularly on top of the alleged cost blowout.

If any hold ups are unforeseen, or the result of political delays by greens etc, then how will that be the Governments fault?

 

[Not Important]

If any hold ups are unforeseen, or the result of political delays by greens etc, then how will that be the Governments fault?

you're are making a lot of assumptions there. the gov't approved the expenditure knowing projects rarely come in at cost or in the time scale forecast. and this one had many issues not resolved in its formative stages.

 

[Hodgey 15]

Macquarie Point stadium: New look at Hobart’s proposed $775 million venue​

Macquarie Point stadium: New look at Hobart’s proposed $775 million venue

Rockliff is sticking by the project, today saying it will “transform” Tasmania…

pulsetasmania.com.au