Cleavy
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we had a shot of a male Blues supporter with a young child on his shoulders, at least pan the camera back to show both of them.
The State of TV Coverage Camerawork
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100% agree with this.
They do the same thing covering golf, zoom in super close on putts going into the hole, so you lose all perspective on break/speed/distance. Does my head in.
Agree with the points about staying zoomed out. AFL is played on bigger fields, with more players involved than other sports. Zooming back gives the the audience more information on the match. It would also make the commentators more important, as the viewer would need their input more on which player has the ball (as that would be harder to see on wide shots).
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Usually the best information you can get about what a shot is going to do is the goal umpire. Once they zoom in the vision on them is one of the first to disappear
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The final siren on Friday night spoke volumes to how 7 treats footy coverage. Newman takes a mark to pretty much put the result beyond doubt and they go to a great reaction of Crippa. After all - he emobides the Carlton story this finals series. A split second later the siren sounds and they stay on Crippa and soak up all his emotion as he collapses to the ground - exhausted and overjoyed.
No they didn't actually. They cut away to the crowd and had to replay Cripps' reaction later. Someone needs to tell them the game is about the players first and foremost. The crowd is secondary.
No they didn't actually. They cut away to the crowd and had to replay Cripps' reaction later. Someone needs to tell them the game is about the players first and foremost. The crowd is secondary.
Disagree enzso.
The worst thing any Director can do at the moment the final siren sounds is isolate a player or coach (or a single person in the stands).
Get the emotion of that instant on multiple players of both teams with the crowd in the background if possible.
Hold that shot for a few seconds then start going for iso shots.
In too many games, particularly Grand Finals, it is clear that the Director has chosen a particular person for their final siren shot and often follow them for some time beforehand even if they are nowhere near the ball.
Annoys the heck out of me.
The worst thing any Director can do at the moment the final siren sounds is isolate a player or coach (or a single person in the stands).
Get the emotion of that instant on multiple players of both teams with the crowd in the background if possible.
Hold that shot for a few seconds then start going for iso shots.
In too many games, particularly Grand Finals, it is clear that the Director has chosen a particular person for their final siren shot and often follow them for some time beforehand even if they are nowhere near the ball.
Annoys the heck out of me.
Absolutely spot on. Could not agree more.
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The camera was so tight on the ball that any random bounce or kick going somewhere unexpected was lost. It was truly awful for large periods
Mixed with BT horrific call and the lack of skills on display it made for a really, really long night. If it wasnt a final id have turned it off
Agreed, would have been unbearable if there wasn't so much on the line.
Cleavy
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Should be the other way around?
hawkman
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You can't see how far he ran if it is a close up
I actually find this weird.
The 1 - 2 shot style of footy has been around since 1965. Close up on marking contests, ball in hand etc.
With the advent of huge tv's and wide screens, the cameras are more zoomed OUT than ever. Entire passages of play go by with the ball being chipped around and the camera so zoomed out that you can hardly, if at all, see the players' numbers. And even the 'close up' camera is far wider than it used to be. Ever since 7 took back the rights, cameras are way, way zoomed out. Compare, say, the 2011 GF (10) to last year's (7).
If you want zoomed in, look at 7's camerawork in the 90s, when ball-carriers were zoomed right into from cameras in the forward pocket.
Each to their own, but I find the 'viewed through the wrong end of a microscope' style of camerawork too conservative and too boring. I'm not an idiot, I can tell from the regular super, ridiculously wide shots where players are. Can't others? This is not soccer or the NFL.
The 1 - 2 shot style of footy has been around since 1965. Close up on marking contests, ball in hand etc.
With the advent of huge tv's and wide screens, the cameras are more zoomed OUT than ever. Entire passages of play go by with the ball being chipped around and the camera so zoomed out that you can hardly, if at all, see the players' numbers. And even the 'close up' camera is far wider than it used to be. Ever since 7 took back the rights, cameras are way, way zoomed out. Compare, say, the 2011 GF (10) to last year's (7).
If you want zoomed in, look at 7's camerawork in the 90s, when ball-carriers were zoomed right into from cameras in the forward pocket.
Each to their own, but I find the 'viewed through the wrong end of a microscope' style of camerawork too conservative and too boring. I'm not an idiot, I can tell from the regular super, ridiculously wide shots where players are. Can't others? This is not soccer or the NFL.
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I’m not sure what games you are watching. I literally just looked up one game highlights and found this clip within 20 seconds. Sicily kicking inside 50 and the coverage gives you absolutely no idea where he may even be kicking to until he’s pulled the kick and the camera pans out - like, why? You can’t be serious saying you enjoy this style of coverage it’s awful
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I’ve noticed they have fixed the main camera position at the scg, more centeral now compared to previous years
Used to be in Ladies Pavilion, now in Brewongle
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It should be on the roof of the brewongle
As chairman you would know the roof sticks out too far and cameras wouldn't be able to shoot the near-side boundary line.
Couldn't they set up similar to the Gabba and have the cameras in the O'Reilly Stand (opposite side of the ground) facing the interchange benches?
Don't need to move the commentary booth - just need a rather lengthy cable run between the 2 or 3 cameras now set up in the Brewongle to the broadcast vehicle.
Nothing else needs to change.
Don't need to move the commentary booth - just need a rather lengthy cable run between the 2 or 3 cameras now set up in the Brewongle to the broadcast vehicle.
Nothing else needs to change.
Just need the sun to set in the east and that would work well
Of course...Just need the sun to set in the east and that would work well
I don't think I'm alone in having taken some awesome sunset shots with the purple/pink colours hovering above the Members and Ladies Stands whilst the game is happening in the foreground.
Edit: Just move the cameras at night or on cloudy days
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