No Oppo Supporters The TAN 80 - ICE COLD VB & CRAFT BEER LOVERS WELCOME

[All Aust]

Yeah if I moved to Hobart I'd probably choose South Hobart. Expensive these days though, can't get much for under a million bucks.

Truth that. Hobes real estate prices these days make your nads shrink!

 

[Groupie_]

multiple ice cold vbs and a tooheys old single is where its at

this is heaven

 

[Groupie_]

Might head on down to the Dark Mofo winter feast and pig out on some spit roasted meat this evening.

drab majesty one of my favourite bands played there last night

 

[Groupie_]

swear tooheys old dark ale tastes like cola poured into a beer glass

 

[lllscroatlll]

swear tooheys old dark ale tastes like cola poured into a beer glass

 

[Groupie_]

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noice

that gaptooth is like another seperate mouth

 

[DickieKnee]

Need beer.

 

[Groupie_]

 

[Tiges1229]

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Fat campaigner

 

[Rayzorwire]

This article was really quite a bit more funny and fascinating than I expected going into it:

'His peers thought he was a madman.' The weird, wonderful history of ice » Yale Climate Connections

Our obsession with iced drinks, ice cream, and skating rinks can be traced to an eccentric 18th-century man from Boston, according to "Ice: From Mixed Drinks to Skating Rinks, a Cool History of a Hot Commodity," a new book by Amy Brady.

yaleclimateconnections.org

Michael Svoboda: You begin your history by suggesting that the 18th-century world was divided into two subcultures: northern communities that took ice for granted, at least in the winter, and southern communities for which ice was almost entirely unknown. For ice to become a commercial enterprise, you say, both subcultures had to change. And one man started that process. Tell us about Frederic Tudor.

Amy Brady: Frederic Tudor was an eccentric wealthy Bostonian, born just a day after the American Revolution ended, who started a revolution of his own by sparking an appetite for ice. Although he came from a wealthy family, he decided pretty early on that instead of getting a formal education he would try one business scheme after another until one worked out.

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He ultimately decided that selling ice cut out of his Massachusetts lake was the answer. His peers thought he was a madman. First, because all of them got their ice for free it never occurred to them that people would pay for it. Then there was the question of how you ship it long distances without melting. So he had to come up with solutions for all of that.

And once he got the ice to warmer climates, he realized that he that were two major pitfalls in his thinking. The first was that there were no ice houses there. So his first shipment melted away on the ship. The second was that the people to whom he brought the ice had rarely if ever seen ice before. They didn’t know how to use it. So he had to create a demand for this stuff.

Svoboda: One of the very fun through-lines of your book is the interplay between ice and alcohol. Tell us how the ice trade transformed local and regional drinking cultures.

Brady: Tudor went to Cuba before he tried the southern United States. There, to get the baristas to use ice in their drinks, he initially gave it away for free. “Just see if people like it,” he told them. And of course they did. Once the demand was there, he started selling his ice at an ever-increasing price.

He did the same thing when he landed in New Orleans and created what many people refer to as “the cradle of civilized drinking.”

Svoboda: Fairly quickly, you note, the demand for ice exceeded the “natural” supply. This led to the “blasphemous” invention of artificial ice. Take us through some of the critical moments in that story.

Brady: Well, this goes back to Dr. John Gorrie, who was a doctor from New York who moved to Apalachicola, Florida, a tiny port town off the Gulf Coast of Florida. He went there to fight yellow fever, a disease that ravaged the American southern states every summer.

Keep in mind that doctors didn’t know that the disease was transmitted by mosquitoes. But what Gorrie noticed was that every year, without fail, the disease came with the hot months and receded with the cool months.

Not knowing that this was due to the mosquitoes’ life cycle, he thought it had something to do with the temperature itself. And so he landed on the idea that perhaps he could cure his patients of yellow fever if he could lower their body temperature.

The only way he could think to do that was with ice. But this was Apalachicola, Florida. Any ice that came into the area in the high summer was so expensive that residents called it “white gold.”

Gorrie was not a wealthy man. And so he realized that if he was going to get ice for his patients, he was going to have to figure out how to make it for himself. He had studied various sciences during his schooling, and eventually, he created a prototype for an ice machine that could create a significant amount of ice.

But when he announced his invention to the world, he was met with cries of “blasphemy!” How dare a man try to make ice — only God can. He ended up dying in poverty of the very disease he was trying to cure. In fact, it wasn’t until the Civil War, when access to Northern ice was cut off by the embargoes, that the Southern states said we need to figure out how to get ice. And they ended up buying a blueprint from Europe that was suspiciously close to what Gorrie had created.

Svoboda: You devote an entire section of your book to the intersections between ice and sports. Can you share a few highlights?

Brady: Yes, that was an interesting section to write. And I was really surprised by a number of things I discovered. One is that none of the sports I talk about in the book — ice skating, speed skating, hockey, curling — are played on the same sheet of ice. It’s all very different, by design, because the surface needs to be specially crafted for the sport that’s being played on it.

And then when I dug deeper into the slipperiness of ice, I was surprised to learn that there’s still some debate over what makes ice slippery. What’s weird about curling, in particular, is that the stone actually curves in the direction in which you spin it rather than the counter direction, which is how every other object on Earth works. And scientists really don’t know why that is. Ice continues to elude us.

 

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[Rayzorwire]

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Bet some campaigner on Airtasker will happily run there and back for $3.

 

[Groupie_]

Need beer.

hope you followed through on that

 

[Groupie_]

The starting gun hs fired on Tassie cans drinking beer challenge:

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boags draught is worse than xxxx

 

[DickieKnee]

hope you followed through on that

About to go to bottlo Thought it best to eat first.

 

[lllscroatlll]

About to go to bottlo Thought it best to eat first.

disappointing

 

[Groupie_]

About to go to bottlo Thought it best to eat first.

get tooheys olds

 

[lllscroatlll]

the 'cheese' in 420 beefbaconncheese pies is fugn disgusting

ate it tho

 

[beema limapep]

swear tooheys old dark ale tastes like cola poured into a beer glass

It would after 10 vbs

 

[DickieKnee]

get tooheys olds

 

[NaturalDisaster]

It would after 10 vbs

How many do you people drink a night?

 

[All Aust]

How many do you people drink a night?

Numbers are just a construct.

 

[Groupie_]

How many do you people drink a night?

1

 

[beema limapep]

How many do you people drink a night?

Most nights these days 0. But when I'm on I'm on.

 

[Rayzorwire]

How many do you people drink a night?