The term interstate is typical

[Lance Uppercut]

cool- we'll create a new proper de-centralised national league and leave you to play in the VFL. See how you go without all the non victorian teams under writing some of Vic's poorer performing clubs financially.

off you go then champ

 

[tandino]

Is it just me or does the term interstate annoy other people.
We are in a NATIONAL competition yet every side that isn't Vic based is known as an interstate team. So therefore that means everything revolves around Victoria so it really hasn't moved on from the VFL.
Yes I know Victoria has 10 teams, even though it can only really support 6 teams successfully.
Yes I know the MCG is the best stadium in Australia for footy.
Yes I know the AFL commission resides in Victoria.

While the term interstate continues to be used it will typify what the AFL is all about. The same thing goes for the fact that certain Vic teams can play outside Victoria 4-5 times a year and say it's fair. How can a side play at the same ground 15 times in the home and away season, 8 times in a row, and say the draw is even when the reigning premiers play on that ground once.

To be a truly recognised even national competition there are a few facets of the way things are run that need to be looked at. Stop changing the rules and the game and start making an even national competition.

Bitch bitch bitch.

Yes, it's a national competition but it:
Has it's foundations in Victoria
Has the vast majority of teams based in Victoria
The game itself was invented in Melbourne
The competition's headquarters are in Melbourne
The Grand Final is played in Melbourne

What would you expect?, I mean really.

 

[estibador]

Victoria would find enough sponsors, don't let the media misguide you into thinking 90% of Victorian clubs are in trouble.

The question is would the powerful Vic clubs want to stay in a state league?

I think if the Collingwood and Essendon boards were offered the opportunity to join a breakaway national league with all the national exposure and sponsorship opportunities that would bring, they would think very seriously about leaving all the struggling Vic clubs in a state league on their own.

 

[.Shotties.]

cool- we'll create a new proper de-centralised national league and leave you to play in the VFL. See how you go without all the non victorian teams under writing some of Vic's poorer performing clubs financially.

Pretty much what I was going to say.

 

[.Shotties.]

The game itself was invented in Melbourne

But BY a NSWelshman.

 

[tandino]

But BY a NSWelshman.

Back in those days there was no Victoria, even Melbournians were classed as NSWelshmen. Shuuder to think

 

[The Night Shift]

off you go then champ

are you so certain you want all the "interstate" clubs out of the [A]VFL

Whats amusing here is that you take it as a personal insult, for us to even question the outdated use of the term Interstater, or perhaps you Vics are more loyal to the league than your own teams.

 

[demonfan9]

Gee some people need to get a life.

How is this an issue to get frustrated over?

Harden the **** up!

These 'interstaters' seem to think that it is us against them. They have created this mentality in their own little states, they think that us Victorians despise any club that isn't Victorian. Which is simply not the case. We hate each other more than we hate Johnny Come Lately FC.

Just like that dumb mole on Street Talk a few weeks ago in Adelaide. "Our under 18's are gonna kill the Vic Metro boys this weekend." Sam replied "Tell someone who gives a damn."

 

[becky]

You are interstaters. Live with it.

What do you want to be called?

 

[Big Scottknowsall]

are you so certain you want all the "interstate" clubs out of the [A]VFL

Whats amusing here is that you take it as a personal insult, for us to even question the outdated use of the term Interstater, or perhaps you Vics are more loyal to the league than your own teams.

Let's face it - a National comp without Vic teams would be boring, and very small. Further, Sydney and Brisbane have been given more money from the AFL to survive than any Vic club ever has....it's a very one way media over here in Perth, don't believe all that your told in our good ole' West

I'm all for the National Competition, and it will evolve slowly to an even competition - but that simply is not sustainable at the moment, unless you want to host 3 or 4 teams in both Perth and Adel....then we'll see how the sponsorship dollars get shared around ;-)

 

[Marns]

cool- we'll create a new proper de-centralised national league and leave you to play in the VFL. See how you go without all the non victorian teams under writing some of Vic's poorer performing clubs financially.

 

[estibador]

Let's face it - a National comp without Vic teams would be boring, and very small.

But it would have Vic clubs. I'm sure the progressive powerhouse Vic clubs would rather join a national comp with the powerhouse 'interstate' clubs than go back to a tinpot state league with all the pauper suburban Vic teams.

Further, Sydney and Brisbane have been given more money from the AFL to survive than any Vic club ever has....

Yeah but they probably also contribute more to the value of the massive tv rights deal than any Vic club (with maybe 1 or 2 exceptions).

 

[Father Jack]

It is an annoying term, I was often asked in Tasmania why I go for an interstate club. Oh the irony ...

 

[Big Scottknowsall]

But it would have Vic clubs. I'm sure the progressive powerhouse Vic clubs would rather join a national comp with the powerhouse 'interstate' clubs than go back to a tinpot state league with all the pauper suburban Vic teams.

West Coast and Adelaide are the only two powerhouse clubs from outside Victoria that I'm aware of - so, this "breakaway" league - what 5....6 teams? Sounds very appealing



Yeah but they probably also contribute more to the value of the massive tv rights deal than any Vic club (with maybe 1 or 2 exceptions).

I disagree with this - but I don't know how I can justify my opinion here...not too many people watch AFL on Fox in NSW....not last time I was there anyway

 

[flyinghi64]

surely theres more important things you could get annoyed about?

Yeah heaps c'mon I'm a whinging interstater, but I had to get back to work. I only had 2mins to whip this one up.

 

[flyinghi64]

Take $20.0m if you like, just don't come back.

Give you another helping hand at winning a flag eh?

 

[estibador]

West Coast and Adelaide are the only two powerhouse clubs from outside Victoria that I'm aware of - so, this "breakaway" league - what 5....6 teams? Sounds very appealing

So how does it feel for a little club like Freo to have more members than any of your "powerhouse" Vic clubs?

 

[flyinghi64]

what a useless, whining, waste of space of a thread

Maybe, but it's copin a few hits.

 

[Big Scottknowsall]

So how does it feel for a little club like Freo to have more members than any of your "powerhouse" Vic clubs?

I couldn't care how many members you have....how are the ebay sales going on those tickets? The 35,000 sell out crowds?

Last time I checked, until membership numbers translates to $$ and flags, it does not solely represent power. You are on your way, well done, but Freo are not a powerhouse....and are certianly not comparable to Collingwood or Essendon.

Don't embarrass yourself.

 

[Stereophonic]

No Victoria = No competition

Correction my good man - no victoria, debt free AFL

 

[Big Scottknowsall]

Correction my good man - no victoria, debt free AFL

Oh contrare my good man - the AFL is not in debt.

 

[Spitz]

cool- we'll create a new proper de-centralised national league and leave you to play in the VFL. See how you go without all the non victorian teams under writing some of Vic's poorer performing clubs financially.

Thats perfectly fine, we'll see how you cope by susbtituting the massively decreased numbers out out of the now extinct draft, with state players from the WAFL, SANFL and AFLQ.

IF a VFL was to form, it would be of such a rediculously higher standard than the NFL anyway purely because of the higher number of better players coming from the state.

 

[estibador]

Last time I checked, until membership numbers translates to $$ and flags, it does not solely represent power. You are on your way, well done, but Freo are not a powerhouse....and are certianly not comparable to Collingwood or Essendon.

Last time I checked, membership numbers have a pretty strong correlation to $$$. And if there's one thing we don't have to worry about it's $$$. We are an off-field powerhouse, don't worry about that. The flags will come.

And if we're talking flags as a measure of power why shouldn't we compare ourselves to Collingwood? I'll concede Essendon, but Collingwood has won as many flags as us in the time we've been in a comp. The fact that the Pies won a heap of flags before our grandparents were born isn't a particulary relevant stat when comparing them to Freo.

 

[MarkT]

can we have our $4.0m each joining fee back as well please ?

Serious? You are complaining about a lousy $4m discounted, vendor financed franchise fee? You should make that per annum and you got a chunk back already when Waverley sold. Try auctioning it off and see what you get. Add a zero or two.

 

[Big Scottknowsall]

Last time I checked membership numbers have a pretty strong correlation to $$$. And if there's one thing we don't have to worry about it's $$$. We are an off-field powerhouse, don't worry about that. The flags will come.

And if we're talking flags as a measure of power why shouldn't we compare ourselves to Collingwood? I'll concede Essendon, but we've won as many flags as Collingwood in the time we've been in a comp. The fact that the Pies won a heap of flags before our grandparents were born isn't a particulary relevant stat when comparing them to Freo.

Fremantle will not be participating in the power house league until they are infact one. End of story.