He also went h2h with Gina and lost, considering how chummy she is with Donald, I can’t imagine she’ll give glowing reviews.Just wondered, what is the usual term for an ambassador?
He was appointed in 2023 so he should be there for a while?
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I get what you’re saying, but imo
- democrats tough on border = electable
- democrats weak on border = unelectable
Just a reflection on worldwide trends
Albo = stopping the boats = electable
Albo = free for all boat arrivals = unelectable
Similar trends throughout Europe
And clearly the way the majority of people think these days
Same thing will happen in France and not even a coalition of left wing parties will be able to stop it
The thing I find amazing is the trend in immigrant to western countries that have similar feelings. Sure many are pro refugee/open immigration, but more and more seem to worship at the shrine of anti woke close boarder policies
I tell ya what..
This whole thing reeks of en elon musk bitcoin/etherium pump and dump.
If Trump brings in his economic policy, the US gdp will crash harder than the GFC.
Undocumented immigrants contributed 96.7 billion dollars to the US federal, state and local taxes.
His tax policy gives the top 5% of earners the biggest breaks, the bottom 5% will pay higher taxes..
This ^^^ this is why low—-> middle class people should never ****ing vote for these pieces of shit..
This will have HUGE impacts on us.. massive global market hiccups.
Makes sense
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The guy has valid points and you lot choose to play the man and not the issue.
Look at what happened when we had the recent referendum. With the exception of a circle in NSW...the entire country voted unanimously 'NO'. This is because people don't like being alienated, being told that they're racist, bigots, dumb etc.
And when that happens....the people wait until they're in voting booth to give their 'GO **** YOURSELF' vote.
Same thing happened with this election and the people voted.
Electoral college, popular vote, house, senate......but sure this is just a result of dumb voters.
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Anyways....I'm gonna continue watching melts on the internet.
Slainte.
Slainte.
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That is because most European countries populations are pro legal immigration and anti illegal. They never voted for open borders to illegal immigrants but their politicians and civil service didn't give a shit and eventually the electorate gives them the finger.
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Who's uneducated? The people who don't listen to the electorate and expect different results? The people who blame election losses on people not being smart rather than them running a shit campaign?
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Australia would be the same
Wouldn’t surprise me. When we go to the polls, I spin out too.
I think if you knocked queensland out you’d see different results.
Because low income earners vote for Trump/GOP/Conservatives and will be worse off. Thats why.
Feels like you're just trying to slot what happened here into your preconceived notions. Harris spent this entire electoral cycle coddling and pandering to conservatives in the hope that there was this mythical faction of anti-trump republicans who would flip for her. But conservatives were always going to vote for Trump because at the end of the day even if they find him personally offensive or whatever he's with them on the issues. The kind of passionate, publicly vocal Trump supporters that Portnoy is implying swung this election are ****ing desperate for things to get aggrieved about, they were covering themselves in rubbish bags one day after senile Biden made an offhand comment in his whisper voice. They were not the decisive voice in this election, they're a weird little fringe minority of voters.
I think this Trump victory is largely a function of really, really low turnout. Because people who would normally turn out to vote for a Democrat saw what Harris was telling them with her words and actions: I'm basically a republican, so why bother voting for me against the actual republican?
Portnoy's a ****ing idiot. In that video he's babbling incoherently. He sounds like a whiny piece of shit implying that he and all the other racists like him simply had no choice but to vote for Trump because they need to feel constantly aggrieved and like they're oppressed little victims because the entire culture isn't glazing them up constantly. Is it playing the man to point that out? I don't care.
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That is an extreme generalisation that doesn't paint your level of education in a good light. Do you think all low income earners are stupid?
The problem with this hypothesis is that we haven't seen what it looks like when a Democrat stands behind, campaigns for and shows leadership on objectively popular progressive immigration policies like a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants and a more functional immigration system that admits more people, instead they're either shy about their policies out of fear of upsetting conservatives, or they do what Harris did in this election and just adopt a far-right immigration policy in the hopes of appeasing them. That's what doesn't work. A candidate like Bernie Sanders might've been able to make that case, but we'll never know.
Agreed
This one's kind of bullshit. You don't elect Giorgia Meloni because you're concerned about people not using the correct pathways to enter a country.
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No you elect her when you have run out of faith in mainstream politicians. See Germany, France (both sides) , Brexit and Reform for further evidence.
You don't vote for those parties unless you're a racist or completely comfortable with racist attitudes. Racism is a massive problem in that part of the world, has been for centuries. It had to be constructed as an ideology to justify to the masses the horrors of colonialism, now it stays around and gets cultivated because it's an easy way to drum people up into a fervour without actually doing anything to address the issues that cause their unease. Same here and in America. It's not entirely untrue that a failure of the mainstream political system is necessary for far-right elements to rise to power, but it wouldn't be possible if that extreme racism wasn't there to be exploited.
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