Thornton poised to join Hawks

[barwick]

Hardball time , pick 6 or he goes to Essendon in the PSD. Like it or lump it. Carlton must do what is best for them.

And hold the abuse, i know it is highway robbery and is a ransom request as such, but if you want him you pay overs or he goes into the psd, where Ess or NM pick b4 you guys.

Cheers

Thats fair enough, clubs want to pick up quality players and give away nothing in return. If i was in carltons position i would want what is best for carlton and get the best deal.

 

[barwick]

You guys think Thornton is God or something? At anyother club he would be a third tall, and its not like we dont have enough third talls as it is. He is a stop gap sollution untill we draft or develop a better option!

Then stop whinging and keep skinny dawson, you are just like pommies whinge whinge whinge.

 

[Philhawk]

Then stop whinging and keep skinny dawson, you are just like pommies whinge whinge whinge.

Who's whinging?

You're the one who entered the Hawthorn forum for no apparent reason at all rather than inexplicably accusing Hawk fans of 'whinging'.

 

[Roughie]

Then stop whinging and keep skinny dawson, you are just like pommies whinge whinge whinge.

^ Ive always been for developing Dawson. But I am saying if we go for Thornton we musnt throw to much at him.

Now go back to tossing over buckley, and counting your missing teeth.


Oh wait........Collingwood fans can count?

 

[Silvagnis]

Thornton expected to stay at Carlton.

 

[mark73]

Gotta love the pure arrogance of Hawthorn supporters. They think that because Thornton has indicated that he is prepared to move to Hawthorn, and miss the fact that his manager stated that the ball is in Carlton's court they think they can offer us all sorts of joke deals. First round pick or he wears red and balckor blue and white next season (if he even goes). Ill be bookmarking this page to laff and laff again at you sad Hawthorn supporters when you dont get him.

I hope you mean Geelong

 

[Roughie]

Thornton expected to stay at Carlton.

You just crushed so many hawks fans hearts

I really dont know why we got so extremely excited.

Oh well, guess we look for another experienced key position defender.

 

[barwick]

^ Ive always been for developing Dawson. But I am saying if we go for Thornton we musnt throw to much at him.

Now go back to tossing over buckley, and counting your missing teeth.


Oh wait........Collingwood fans can count?

Collingwood supporters with missing teeth and hawthorn supporters with two heads.... tasmanians. Jeff Kennett says teams must go if they cant pay thier way, the man with the silver spoon in his mouth and what a big mouth it is i wonder if he would like to see his team being kicked out of the league, it wont happen jeff carlton, kangaroos, melbourne, doggies are here to stay.

 

[Binxy]

You guys think Thornton is God or something? At anyother club he would be a third tall, and its not like we dont have enough third talls as it is. He is a stop gap sollution untill we draft or develop a better option!

I kinda agree but I would still prefer him to Jacobs.

 

[barwick]

Who's whinging?

You're the one who entered the Hawthorn forum for no apparent reason at all rather than inexplicably accusing Hawk fans of 'whinging'.

Anyone can have a say in this fine country of ours or do you think we are in iraq?

 

[Roughie]

I kinda agree but I would still prefer him to Jacobs.

^ Jacobs is great when he is unacountable, unforutnatly I think that is the same with most of our defenders. Gilham and Murphy have shown on occasions they can hold their own, it seems like Croad will definatly be our CHB next season, and Roughie will be a FF or CHF. So I would not be suprised if Gilham bulks up and is thrown in the deep end next season. I also wouldnt be suprised if Dawson doesnt play till round 8.

 

[Silvagnis]

You guys think Thornton is God or something? At anyother club he would be a third tall, and its not like we dont have enough third talls as it is. He is a stop gap sollution untill we draft or develop a better option!

Tbird kept Neitz to two goals the second time we played them this year and he has done very well for a player who was thrown in the deep end as a skinny kid. He'd be a Sam Fisher type of player in any other side and have bigger wraps than he's getting at the moment. But unlike Sam, he can play on key forwards and stop them with better pressure from the midfield which he doesn't get at Carlton.

Would you prefer another year of Dawson?

 

[Hawk_Hero_Win]

Hardball time , pick 6 or he goes to Essendon in the PSD. Like it or lump it. Carlton must do what is best for them.

And hold the abuse, i know it is highway robbery and is a ransom request as such, but if you want him you pay overs or he goes into the psd, where Ess or NM pick b4 you guys.

Cheers

Hell No, what drugs have you been on? No pick six, we can deal fairly or carlton can lose out complately to essendon. Im guessing sydney will trade their first round pick for Everitt.... we can play hard ball too, you have more to lose than us. So that is our offer take it or leave it!

 

[Hawk_Hero_Win]

Then stop whinging and keep skinny dawson, you are just like pommies whinge whinge whinge.

It's a Hawks site and you're a guest in this section. Being its a hawks supporters page they are free to praise, run down or winge as much as they like on here. If you don't like it don't come here.... F....k Of back to your own site. It's Obvious you have nothing useful too add.

p.s what your basicly saying then is Thorton is worth as much as the pies tarrant (as you will only get a round 1 pick for Taz) would you be prepared to trade Taz for T-Bird?

 

[Hawk_Hero_Win]

Collingwood supporters with missing teeth and hawthorn supporters with two heads.... tasmanians. Jeff Kennett says teams must go if they cant pay thier way, the man with the silver spoon in his mouth and what a big mouth it is i wonder if he would like to see his team being kicked out of the league, it wont happen jeff carlton, kangaroos, melbourne, doggies are here to stay.

At least our past & present presidents have been trying to do what is best for our Hawks. What has your past and president achieved for Carlton, well let's see the previous one got your picks taken off you and the current one failed to gain then back. Give me the two headed Geoff any day, at least he know how to keep a team in the $ and alive!

 

[HBF]

Scenario A

Spida --> Sydney

Pick 16 ---> Hawthorn ----> Carlton

Thornton -----> Hawthorn

Where do I sign Phil?

 

[Smell The Glove]

The pure arrogance of Hawk fans?

You're kidding considering Carlton fans were debating the topic, "Can we pinch some Saints" a few weeks ago?

Remember this comment by yourself re: Goddard to Carlton??

Now who's presenting who with joke deals.

Ahh philhawk. Really dioesnt surprise me you would make moronic statements without so much as reading the thread or post of mine- you've done that once already this week. I never suggested that as an actual offer- in broad daylight it says 'would be a real bargain in our favour'. Now what could that mean I wonder? Means that if we got that we would be getting a bargain ie. under value. At any rate, I never suggested that one- another Carlton supporter brought that up and I mentioned it- not my fault you and the St Kilda supporter aren't smart enough to figure that out.

And considering how many supporters have been scheming about how their club can profit from our turmoil (Port Adelaide for instance comes to mind), including yours, you really dont have a leg to stand on bringing that thread up. We never actually EXPECTED to claim any of their players, we merely brought up the hypothetical. You Hawk supporters have been crowing all day about how you will offer us garbage and we will be happy to accept it just because we are Carlton. That reeks of arrogance, but as usual Hawthorn supporters (and spinless St Kilda supporters, but 1 flag doesnt exactly give you a spine) are just hypocritical, weak little babies who can dish it out but not take it.

Really? And my curser will be hovering over the delete button. How arrogant will that be?

Not arrogant so much as being a crybaby. Though I'd really expect nothing less from a Hawthorn supporter these days.

 

[Philhawk]

I never suggested that as an actual offer- in broad daylight it says 'would be a real bargain in our favour'.

More lies.
Saints forum, thread started by Whippersnapper.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=267929

Hey Sainters,

Just wanted to know whether Brendan Goddard is under contract for next year. Seems like he might be worth us hunting for if he isn't, the idea on our board is pick 19 and houlihan would do just nicely.

Thoughts?

Sure, the word on 'your board'. So the Blues are 'generous' enough to offer up Pick 19 AND Houlihan for the number 1 pick in the draft of 02? Gee, not 'arrogant' at all.

Now what could that mean I wonder? Means that if we got that we would be getting a bargain ie. under value. At any rate, I never suggested that one- another Carlton supporter brought that up and I mentioned it- not my fault you and the St Kilda supporter aren't smart enough to figure that out.

See above. You suggested it. You're culpable for ridicule for even suggesting something ludicrous like that on the Saints forum.

And considering how many supporters have been scheming about how their club can profit from our turmoil (Port Adelaide for instance comes to mind), including yours, you really dont have a leg to stand on bringing that thread up. We never actually EXPECTED to claim any of their players, we merely brought up the hypothetical.

So when Carlton fans bring up speculation it's 'hypotheticals', but when other clubs do it they're 'scheming the mass destruction of the Carlton Football Club"?

You Hawk supporters have been crowing all day about how you will offer us garbage and we will be happy to accept it just because we are Carlton.

Just in case you are incapable of reading properly, Hawthorn fans were suggesting not paying over the odds for a player of Thorntons ability. While i'm not going to generalize, some Carlton fans suggest playing 'hardball' and make the Hawks cough up Pick 6 for Thornton? Yeh, makes sense.

That reeks of arrogance, but as usual Hawthorn supporters (and spinless St Kilda supporters, but 1 flag doesnt exactly give you a spine) (Why is this relevant to the Hawthorn forum?) are just hypocritical, weak little babies who can dish it out but not take it.

Sorry? You're the person coming into the Hawk forum whinging and whining about how Carlton fans are being victimized by Hawk fans, Saint fans and even Port Fans (?).

Not arrogant so much as being a crybaby. Though I'd really expect nothing less from a Hawthorn supporter these days.

Ironic on so many levels. Just in case you didn't realize, Gary's a well respected poster on this board and just so happens to be the Moderator to boot. I daresay you'll be enjoying a nice break from the Hawthorn Board, hopefully for the remainder of the year.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Can we still molotov Windy Hill ?

 

[Smell The Glove]

More lies.
Saints forum, thread started by Whippersnapper.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=267929

Thread started by whippersnipp, using comments whippersnipper relayed, facetiously (although you obviously didnt pick that part up, you bright thing) from the Carlton board. Using logic, it would naturally follow that Houlihan and pick 19 for Goddard would do more than nicely for the Carlton Football Club. That part of the post was an adjunct to the reason I went onto the board- to get a simple answer to a simple question, which none of the St Kilda supporters answered. Clever people- them and you.

Sure, the word on 'your board'. So the Blues are 'generous' enough to offer up Pick 19 AND Houlihan for the number 1 pick in the draft of 02? Gee, not 'arrogant' at all.

See above- saying something facetiously is not arrogance.

See above. You suggested it. You're culpable for ridicule for even suggesting something ludicrous like that on the Saints forum.

See above, see above. Since none of your arguments above make any sense, I wont bother responding to this line of garbage either.

So when Carlton fans bring up speculation it's 'hypotheticals', but when other clubs do it they're 'scheming the mass destruction of the Carlton Football Club"?

Now you are putting words in my mouth. If you had have actually read the thread, instead of just the title, you would realise that the thread was simply to ponder whether there were any out of contract Saints we could entice to the Carlton Football Club. No, 'just because they are in strife, we will deliberately and publically state moronic offers just a few days after we orignially discussed the issue on the basis of one article. Oh, and the Houlihan and pick 19 IN YOUR OPINION is a silly deal, I happen to think that while it does under value Goddard somewhat (and I stated that repeatedly on the Saints board, but the girls there were still in the middle of their hissy fit), it is in no way offensive, and to state that it is such is more offensive to Ryan Houlihan.

Just in case you are incapable of reading properly, Hawthorn fans were suggesting not paying over the odds for a player of Thorntons ability. While i'm not going to generalize, some Carlton fans suggest playing 'hardball' and make the Hawks cough up Pick 6 for Thornton? Yeh, makes sense.

Fine, call that arrogance if you want. Carlton supprters have always been arrogant, and always will be. But quote ME saying that Thornton is worth the number 6 pick. And the fact remains that I find you lot arrogoant not because of what you offered for Thornton, its the fact that you all changed your tune in the space of a day from making reasonable offers, to making ridiculous ones just on the basis of one article that says he might be prepared to go to Hawthorn.

Sorry? You're the person coming into the Hawk forum whinging and whining about how Carlton fans are being victimized by Hawk fans, Saint fans and even Port Fans (?).

How am I winging and whing? You are the one that replied to my original post- you are the one that had a sook about something I said? You must be the whinger and whiner. In case you hadnt realised, Carlton supporters on this forum cop ten times the **** that any of you whiny Hawks supporters do, and we cop in on the chin and move on. Why the bloody hell would I give a rat's arse about the particular ribbing I get from you? I couldnt care less.

Ironic on so many levels. Just in case you didn't realize, Gary's a well respected poster on this board and just so happens to be the Moderator to boot. I daresay you'll be enjoying a nice break from the Hawthorn Board, hopefully for the remainder of the year.

Wow. He is a poster like anyone else, and if he posts on here or anywhere, I expect him to give and take like anyone else. He cant do that, then yes, he is a crybaby in my book.

Oh, and banning me? I'll, uh, add it to the list

 

[#7#Matt#7#]

WOW!!! All I have to say is, Whippersnapper, get a life. Honestly, someone who has a life would not have the time of the day to sit there and pick out so much crap from someone else's posts. What's it matter to you what we say? At the end of the day it doesn't matter what we think, or even what you think, it matters what the Carlton and Hawthorn officials think thats going to count. I would continue on but, unlike yourself, I have a life to go live.

 

[mulhollanddrive]

The main thing is that Carlton will have to cover 2 key forwards with 1 Fat Lance (same size as 2 though) next year. That's worth any amount of Carlton trolling.

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

I cant see thornton slipping to the pre season draft. Im not sure what we can offer for him at the moment but the ball is in our court. He in my opinion is worth about pick 20. Maybe if we got pick 16 for spider some how(other trades involved) then we trade pick 16 and 24 and get pick 19 and thornton in return.

Doesnt matter though, I have very very strong mail that Mal Michael is still priority 1.

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

Also im with philhawk on this one. He is a great and consistant poster and if you dont like the hawks board then have a winge on the carlton board just dont come in here and make up such utter crap like pick 6 for thornton. We all know he isnt worth that. Just get a life and get realistic pick 15-25 for thornton and pick 10-25 for a brad fisher. That aint bias thats bloody fact.

 

[Philhawk]

Thread started by whippersnipp, using comments whippersnipper relayed, facetiously (although you obviously didnt pick that part up, you bright thing) from the Carlton board. Using logic, it would naturally follow that Houlihan and pick 19 for Goddard would do more than nicely for the Carlton Football Club. That part of the post was an adjunct to the reason I went onto the board- to get a simple answer to a simple question, which none of the St Kilda supporters answered. Clever people- them and you.

So let me get this straight, you go to another board with an alleged 'facetious' mindset, suggesting that Goddard be traded for Pick 19 and Goddard and are suprised by the reaction you got by Saints fans?

See above- saying something facetiously is not arrogance.

No, but attempting to convince others that you only posted with a 'facetious/tongue-in-cheek' mindset and expected a reasonable response is arrogance.

Now you are putting words in my mouth. If you had have actually read the thread, instead of just the title, you would realise that the thread was simply to ponder whether there were any out of contract Saints we could entice to the Carlton Football Club.

'Entice', let me quote your exact words,

Hey Sainters,

Just wanted to know whether Brendan Goddard is under contract for next year. Seems like he might be worth us hunting for if he isn't, the idea on our board is pick 19 and houlihan would do just nicely.

Thoughts?

So again, you are expecting a 'reasonable' response where you speak figuratively of 'hunting' Goddard (a much valued player at St Kilda), grossly undervalueing his worth, yet your ire is raised when Hawk fans allegedly do the same to a contracted Blues player.

No, 'just because they are in strife, we will deliberately and publically state moronic offers just a few days after we orignially discussed the issue on the basis of one article.

They're in strife? Oh, very nice idea by the way trying to raise their ire.

Oh, and the Houlihan and pick 19 IN YOUR OPINION is a silly deal, I happen to think that while it does under value Goddard somewhat (and I stated that repeatedly on the Saints board, but the girls there were still in the middle of their hissy fit), it is in no way offensive, and to state that it is such is more offensive to Ryan Houlihan.

For starters, you had posts editted there for personal abuse on your part of posters in the Saints forum. Secondly, you posted rubbish like this to 'justify' your reasoning.

He has been serviceable, but not spectacular. Give me some statistics to prove he is worth even the number 1 pick. Doesn't look like a matchwinner yet. Your idea of pick 1, plus another first round pick, plus a second or third round pick is one of the single most laughable ideas I have ever heard anyone, let alone a mod, ever post. What could we offer him? The chance to be a part of a midfield in his boyhood team consisting of Murphy, Walker, Simpson, (soon to be) Gibbs and him. In four or five years time, when we have switched places, you will see what I mean.

Laughable.

And the fact remains that I find you lot arrogoant not because of what you offered for Thornton, its the fact that you all changed your tune in the space of a day from making reasonable offers, to making ridiculous ones just on the basis of one article that says he might be prepared to go to Hawthorn.

Sorry? So what were you doing here then?

No, 'just because they are in strife, we will deliberately and publically state moronic offers just a few days after we orignially discussed the issue on the basis of one article.

How am I winging and whing? You are the one that replied to my original post- you are the one that had a sook about something I said? You must be the whinger and whiner.

Well, when you post tripe like this, do you expect a powder puffed reply?

Ill be bookmarking this page to laff and laff again at you sad Hawthorn supporters when you dont get him.

In case you hadnt realised, Carlton supporters on this forum cop ten times the **** that any of you whiny Hawks supporters do, and we cop in on the chin and move on.

Sorry, but why should we care about this? Do you need a hug or something?

Why the bloody hell would I give a rat's arse about the particular ribbing I get from you? I couldnt care less.

Yet you continually take time to reply.