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its bigfooty, its always about yourselfIt's not always about you
3 top ten picks for a ruckmen with possible knees issues and a slow and old Andrew swallow? Swallow is worth a 3rd rounder and Goldstein is worth a first rounder. We lose that trade big time
Just like anyone with half a clue knows he's in the top 5 players in the game?
Which of the current top 5 rucks let alone top 5 players is "post 30"
Gawn?
Naitanui?
Mumford? Yes but he plays like 15 games a year
Grundy?
Jacobs?
"Big men take time", sure, but are you saying ruckmen are immune to ageing?... I think it is consensus that a ruckman's prime years is from 25-29.
Sounds like massive overs to me
He started the year in the top 2 players in the AFL according to MVP voting - He will be top 5 again next season.
That is completely different to your initial claim, but I like how you can see into the future as well, just adds all that much credibility to your argument.
So you can say he is going to fall off a cliff but I can't say he will get back to his best form?
OK mate. You win.
Where did I say that he's going to fall off a cliff? Why make something up that you can't prove? Bizarre.
I questioned your claim that is a top 5 player in the competition this year, which he clearly isn't.
Just like anyone with half a clue knows he's in the top 5 players in the game?
LOL He is still rated @#5 on AFL official player rankings after a 'poor' year.
Yet he is rated at #5 on official player ratings?
Go figure.
You said he wasn't rated in the top 5, yet he is - you said it only adds to the credibility of my future predictions of him to returning to a position he currently holds?!
Ie: Rated in the top 5 on official player ratings.
I don't get what you are arguing mate.
He finished the season @ #5, he is currently @#6 because he isn't playing and Bont has just snuck past him.
What is your point?
On the app he is @#5.
On the website he is @#6
You think that proves anything other than you are anal and that you possibly underrate the big guy????
Do you honestly think that he is currently in the top 5 in the AFL? That was your initial claim, you later changed it to the player ratings, we all know that the player ratings aren't a good measure of current form.
Gawn has clearly been better than him this year, just to prove how idiotic your argument is
Absolute crap. Ruckmen play their best footy post 30..
Anyone with half a clue knows this, hence the phrase 'big men take time'.
I'm saying Cox, Salmon, Madden ie: the best 3 ruckman of the modern era all played until their mid 30's. And as they get older their skills as a ruckman actually improved.
My point is, all of them will be better at 30-34 than they are now with the exception of possibly Nic Nat.
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This argument is so ludicrous
Salmon and madden were so long ago, might as well start telling us how everyone should be playing 400+ games because micheal tuck did that one time.
Also , tell me again how Coxs best form came from the age of 30-34. Fantasy is my favourite genre of story.
Someone already posted the truth. Rucks are in their prime from 25-29.
Quite a simply minded analysis here. Football evolves as a sport, and the physical demand of players has increased drastically over the years, especially rucks who essentially need to play almost as a midfielder despite their size. All of the players you mentioned either didn't have their prime years over 30, or simply wasn't part of the modern era of football. With age, not only do they lose their agility and athleticism, but also they're more prone to injuries, and the deterioration of their skill far outweighs the gain of game knowledge. Now answer my question, which of the current top 5 rucks is over the age of 30, let alone being well over 30 like you have suggested.Cox's best 2 years were 2011 and 2012.
Salmon made Hawthorn's team of century after being traded at age 31.
John Barnes' best year was 2000 as a 30+
Justin Maddens best year was 1995 at 30+
Do you want me to keep going?
Do you actually have any idea or do you just mash keys?
Not everyone is spud Lobbe who peaks at 23 and does nothing but steal other peoples oxygen.
Goldstein's best years are ahead of him, he is 28... You and your mate have no idea, ask any ruckman in the history of the game and other than the athletic types, their best footy is post 28 and all the way into their mid 30's.
Also , tell me again how Coxs best form came from the age of 30-34. Fantasy is my favourite genre of story.
Someone already posted the truth. Rucks are in their prime from 25-29.
Quite a simply minded analysis here. Football evolves as a sport, and the physical demand of players has increased drastically over the years, especially rucks who essentially need to play almost as a midfielder despite their size. All of the players you mentioned either didn't have their prime years over 30, or simply wasn't part of the modern era of football. With age, not only do they lose their agility and athleticism, but also they're more prone to injuries, and the deterioration of their skill far outweighs the gain of game knowledge. Now answer my question, which of the current top 5 rucks is over the age of 30, let alone being well over 30 like you have suggested.
Exactly. That's why I said pick 8 and 20 odd is overs for 30 year old Oldstein.
Gold Coast are having a mini rebuild. Does not fit their age profile at all.
He's 28 and go to the bay if you want to be a tool...