Traded Tom Barrass & 2025 F4 (WCE) traded to Hawthorn for 2025 F1, F2 & F3 (all Haw)

[Obeanie1]

Mitchell was traded for pick 41+50 and Cooper Stephens & Hawks took his salary on. Mitchell wa a Brownlow Winner, B&F winner & then went on to win a flag.

Compared to that, my best offer for Barrass is the one proposed earlier, hawks R1(assume 10-12) for Eagles R2+ Barass that rates him around Pick 15. But Eagles won't play ball, so my starting offer is hawks R2(pies R2) + F2.

Let the negotiations begin.

Meanwhile Sam on his Perth trip can have a chat with Harley on his future plans and make a pinky promise to wait to hear from him. If Harley is a chance, hawks are not going to be given up their F1 & FF1 on any trades and kill their options.

If two 2nds is the opening offer then they better have a better offer ready to roll out.

Eagles response to two 2nd rounders.

 

[Sirlemsip]

If two 2nds is the opening offer then they better have a better offer ready to roll out.

Eagles response to two 2nd rounders.

Can we interest you in a replacement Barrass of the 'Denver Grainger-' variety?

 

[tl92]

If we some how don't need our future 1st for McGuane then the Pies might be willing to trade it. It would be a real gamble for both clubs and our supporters would hate it but I think overall it's a fair deal. Hate to finish 18th next year after doing that.

Can’t see why Barass would choose Collingwood.

 

[bzparkes]

Can’t see why Barass would choose Collingwood.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

If it was cash would choose Hawthorn

 

[bzparkes]

If it was cash would choose Hawthorn

I would think so but Collingwood are about to lose a heap of players, whereas Hawthorn will need to offer pay increases to its young brigade as they get better.

Would be a weird play for Collingwood to make, if it were to eventuate though. They need to turn over their list, not blow good picks drafting in an older player.

Hawthorn are in a position where they can afford to do so. Core team's pretty young and based off their current form, Barrass could make them a contender as early as next year.

 

[Obeanie1]

Can we interest you in a replacement Barrass of the 'Denver Grainger-' variety?

 

[hawkinoz]

If two 2nds is the opening offer then they better have a better offer ready to roll out.

Eagles response to two 2nd rounders.

Same response to your opening request for R1 and R2. That would rate him at around pick 8. LMAO.

I rate him around pick 15-18

 

[stallon]

Same response to your opening request for R1 and R2. That would rate him at around pick 8. LMAO.

I rate him around pick 15-18

You can rate him at whatever you want, doesnt change his value of pick 8-10 areas

 

[Obeanie1]

Same response to your opening request for R1 and R2. That would rate him at around pick 8. LMAO.

I rate him around pick 15-18

Lol.

Pick 18 will slide to a pick in the low 20's.

An early 2nd rounder.

Just stop and think about that before responding again.

Thanks

 

[hawkinoz]

Lol.

Pick 18 will slide to a pick in the low 20's.

An early 2nd rounder.

Just stop and think about that before responding again.

Thanks

They may or may not slide. Those are not our problems.

Barrass wants out, now that is a problem. Again not our problem.

 

[stallon]

They may or may not slide. Those are not our problems.

Barrass wants out, now that is a problem. Again not our problem.

hes contracted though lmao we dont have to let him go

 

[Obeanie1]

They may or may not slide. Those are not our problems.

Barrass wants out, now that is a problem. Again not our problem.

It is the Hawks problem if they want him.

He is under contract for three more years.

Offering a pick in the low 20s won't even get you to the negotiating table.

If you think it will then no point discussing any further. Because you are so far off reality it isn't funny.

 

[Obeanie1]

DGB + Morrison & a swap of 4ths sounds about right to me

Jokes aside it will definitely take a first.

I'd hope to work something so that we keep our first this year so a deal like our current 2nd which is tied to Collingwood and our future first.

Obviously the eagles would prefer the first this year in a stacked draft but an early 2nd this year to sweeten the offer.

Never know what the Eagles prefer.

They may be happy with a F1st and then trade their F1st into this year's draft.

Plans within plans we don't know about.

 

[Lia]

DGB + Morrison & a swap of 4ths sounds about right to me

Jokes aside it will definitely take a first.

I'd hope to work something so that we keep our first this year so a deal like our current 2nd which is tied to Collingwood and our future first.

Obviously the eagles would prefer the first this year in a stacked draft but an early 2nd this year to sweeten the offer.

One of the problems for us is that you're going way too well this year and who knows what that looks like in 2025, you're playing awesome footy.

 

[hawkinoz]

One of the problems for us is that you're going way too well this year and who knows what that looks like in 2025, you're playing awesome footy.

So was Collingwood last year when they traded their F1 for Schultz

 

[stallon]

So was Collingwood last year when they traded their F1 for Schultz

Hawks arent relying on 32+ year olds to get up each week to perform either.

Not the same

 

[Chubbs25]

Hawks arent relying on 32+ year olds to get up each week to perform either.

Not the same

What do you think goes close.
I think the start is
1st and pies 2nd

Then probably moves to 1st , f1 and 2nd then swap of picks

 

[HeHateMe]

Still think we need to make finals before we shift gears into topping up. But maybe I'm a little risk adverse after the last attempts at topping up.

 

[Obeanie1]

What do you think goes close.
I think the start is
1st and pies 2nd

Then probably moves to 1st , f1 and 2nd then swap of picks

All depends on the 1st of course.

Pick 11 say plus a F2nd with a F3rd going back to the Hawks with Barrass.

Somewhere around that IMO.

DGB may get involved as steak knives.

 

[HeHateMe]

I might be in the minority of hawks fans but I'd prefer to trade current 1st over future. Obviously hope the club keeps moving forward but also worried about possible stagnation like the crows had this year.

In saying that it's looking like a strong draft so the club might have a draft target in mind as well and worth the risk.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I might be in the minority of hawks fans but I'd prefer to trade current 1st over future. Obviously hope the club keeps moving forward but also worried about possible stagnation like the crows had this year.

In saying that it's looking like a strong draft so the club might have a draft target in mind as well and worth the risk.

Short of having an unbelievable finals run, WC aren't taking a future 1st. Doubt the Hawks would have a choice.

 

[Taylor]

The idea that WC will swap a key back in a rebuild for a token pick in the teens over $250,000 a year seems absurd to me.

 

[RanaNaved]

I wonder how good the Hawks could be with TB, could be a contender as soon as next year in a very even competition.

Also, the Eagles have some very promising NGA/FS player's in 2025, Barrass could get them some picks for next year

 

[lordbob]

As good as he is, i wouldnt want the hawks to give up a first rounder for a 29 year old. He's no brian lake

Brian Lake

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. With tassie coming in now is the time to keep banking youth.