Traded Tom Barrass & 2025 F4 (WCE) traded to Hawthorn for 2025 F1, F2 & F3 (all Haw)

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Sicily isn’t just a third tall or rebounding defender and has played as a KPD.

Hence his value not being just “a loose defender”.

No he is not, and I was :)

Sicilys 2023 defensive loss % was 15.4 and 17.6 in 2024

Barrass last two seasons
34.4 % - 2024
28.3 % - 2023

21.7 % - 2019
24.4 % - 2018

His best seasons.

Their offensive game is not close in Sicilys favour.
Look at their 1 on 1, contested or spoil stats, they aren't in the same conversation as a KPP.
 

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I suppose with Baker not hitched to this trade any more we can hold onto our two future firsts demand and keep Barrass to his contract if Hawks dont accept. McQualter seemed super keen to hold onto him.
It's exactly this, we'll tell Hawks to pay up or piss off. After they tanked a perfectly reasonable offer from us, I have no idea why Hawks would expect us to suddenly accept considerably less. It'll be 2 firsts or a first and 2 2nds with one being used in the Baker deal.

Nuffies are living in fantasy land.
 
Look at their 1 on 1, contested or spoil stats, they aren't in the same conversation as a KPP.
Sicily played more as a KPD in 2023, his average was (LEFT) and Barrass (RIGHT)

2.7 one on ones - 1.8
15.4% DLP - 34.4%
4 spoils - 7.2
1.8 contested marks - 1.5
10 marks - 7
9.4 intercepts - 7.7

No I’m not saying Sicily is a better defender in being able to play on KPF and beat them one on one, or kill the contest, being a gorilla defender.

But you’re severely underrating how good he is, it’s less about how good Barrass is and more about how truly elite Sicily is.
 
Sicily played more as a KPD in 2023, his average was (LEFT) and Barrass (RIGHT)

2.7 one on ones - 1.8
15.4% DLP - 34.4%
4 spoils - 7.2
1.8 contested marks - 1.5
10 marks - 7
9.4 intercepts - 7.7

No I’m not saying Sicily is a better defender in being able to play on KPF and beat them one on one, or kill the contest, being a gorilla defender.

But you’re severely underrating how good he is, it’s less about how good Barrass is and more about how truly elite Sicily is.

If you think Sicily is even in the conversation with Barrass as a KPP then I'm not entertaining the conversation.
 
I suppose with Baker not hitched to this trade any more we can hold onto our two future firsts demand and keep Barrass to his contract if Hawks dont accept. McQualter seemed super keen to hold onto him.
But dear god at what price. Sincere commiserations if that rumoured trade is true. Brutal.
 
Well I now have a few new people on ignore, Sicily is one of the elite players of the competition not just a position.

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I suppose with Baker not hitched to this trade any more we can hold onto our two future firsts demand and keep Barrass to his contract if Hawks dont accept. McQualter seemed super keen to hold onto him.

Good. You can keep him and hilariously overpay to get Liam Baker.
 

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Eagles splitting 3 for Baker.

Separating Baker and Barrass is bad for Hawks, better be prepared to pay up now nothing hinges on it.

That you dont see this as bad for you shows you just dont get it.

You are desperate for youth and will get 1 kid in the top 10.

You could have split 3 to 2 picks around the 10 mark and had 3 picks (add our 14), plus sent 2 x 2nd for Baker.

This is a massive fail for WCE.
 
3 for 12 and 14 !!!!!!

What an all time botch by Clark

Could have taken 3,14 and a F2

Hilarious
Yep, this…

It's exactly this, we'll tell Hawks to pay up or piss off. After they tanked a perfectly reasonable offer from us, I have no idea why Hawks would expect us to suddenly accept considerably less. It'll be 2 firsts or a first and 2 2nds with one being used in the Baker deal.

Nuffies are living in fantasy land.
‘Cough up’
 
Eagles seen how bad that Port and the Suns were getting reamed in that 3 way and said hold my beer.

What an absolute joke.

If they took our earlier offer of pick 14 no chance they trade pick 3.
 
It's exactly this, we'll tell Hawks to pay up or piss off. After they tanked a perfectly reasonable offer from us, I have no idea why Hawks would expect us to suddenly accept considerably less. It'll be 2 firsts or a first and 2 2nds with one being used in the Baker deal.

Nuffies are living in fantasy land.
Lil Wayne 11(or is your real name
Don Pyke)
Eagles trying to outdo Suns in trading…….lmfao
Is Clarke still on Tigers payroll ?! Has to be
Your board has blown up my friend- but you keep fighting the bushfire with your garden hose
Barrass will be a Hawk and you will get what your told to accept.
 

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Traded Tom Barrass & 2025 F4 (WCE) traded to Hawthorn for 2025 F1, F2 & F3 (all Haw)

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