Confirmed Tom Barrass & 2025 F4 (WCE) traded to Hawthorn for 2025 F1, F2 & F3 (all Haw)

[HR Roughnstuf]

At this point, it does seem likely that the clubs are just a way apart in their valuation of him, and it would be better for Barrass to be shopped to other clubs in Melbourne if he wants to leave. Saints pick 8 would get it done.

Lol, no one is offering a top 10 pick for a 29 year old never AA with a busted back.

But sure, try

 

[John Wayne II]

Lol, no one is offering a top 10 pick for a 29 year old never AA with a busted back.

But sure, try

You blokes were offering 14 and some change, so I think a team would offer around the 10 mark.

 

[FB19]

There was never an offer of 14 and F2.

So why are we the bad guys for trading it then?

 

[John Wayne II]

So why are we the bad guys for trading it then?

We would've taken 14 and F2, you offered 14 and F2 with F3 coming back. All you had to do was drop the F3 and you would've got your man.

 

[ghostbat12]

What happened to the usual suspects in this thread? Haven't heard from them this afternoon.

That’s because a) we no longer need hawthorn for baker deal so slug fest has stopped.

And b) some of us are still grieving.

 

[asanque]

We would've taken 14 and F2, you offered 14 and F2 with F3 coming back. All you had to do was drop the F3 and you would've got your man.

Or you could have taken just 14 and not needed to lose 3.

Now your best case is to get F1 and F2 which was the equivalent of 14 anyway (and you've lost 3).

 

[hawkinoz]

At this point, it does seem likely that the clubs are just a way apart in their valuation of him, and it would be better for Barrass to be shopped to other clubs in Melbourne if he wants to leave. Saints pick 8 would get it done.

Mate if you were as committed in the Baker thread over last few days, maybe you could have convinced Tigers list management to settle for less than 14.

Now if you can use your charm on the Suns and persuade them of below deal, you can get your 2 F1's. Pls don't behave like earlier if Hawks do well in a trade, just focus on if Eagles are doing well and if so, take it and run.

Suns need points for this year and the next , so should be interested in below 3-way trade that also helps Eagles save face..

Suns
Get Pick 33, Eagles F2
Give Pies F1

Eagles
Get Pies F1, Hawks F1 & F2
Give Barrass, 26, Eagles F2

Hawks
Get Barrass, 26
Give Pick 33, Hawks F1 & F2

Would like to ask for Eagles F4 in as well and give that to Suns in exchange for any of their pick in 50's they get when the Rioli trade goes down.. These are the steak knives.

 

[John Wayne II]

Or you could have taken just 14 and not needed to lose 3.

Now your best case is to get F1 and F2 which was the equivalent of 14 anyway (and you've lost 3).

Best case is we take both your future firsts.

 

[John Wayne II]

Mate if you were as committed in the Baker thread over last few days, maybe you could have convinced Tigers list management to settle for less than 14.

Now if you can use your charm on the Suns and persuade them of below deal, you can get your 2 F1's. Pls don't behave like earlier if Hawks do well in a trade, just focus on if Eagles are doing well and if so, take it and run.

Suns need points for this year and the next , so should be interested in below 3-way trade that also helps Eagles save face..

Suns
Get Pick 33, Eagles F2
Give Pies F1

Eagles
Get Pies F1, Hawks F1 & F2
Give Barrass, 26, Eagles F2

Hawks
Get Barrass, 26
Give Pick 33, Hawks F1 & F2

Would like to ask for Eagles F4 in as well and give that to Suns in exchange for any of their pick in 50's they get when the Rioli trade goes down.. These are the steak knives.

Jesus christ that is a bad trade suggestion.

 

[amazingjoshy]

The only reported offer so far ive seen was 14 +F2 for Barrass + F3

If Hawks offer the same its now essentially F1+F2+F2 for Barrass +F3
 
After all the swings and roundabouts, if thats the deal WC essentially slid 3 to 12 this draft for an extra F1 + F2 + Matt Owies

 

[SSSSSS]

We would've taken 14 and F2, you offered 14 and F2 with F3 coming back. All you had to do was drop the F3 and you would've got your man.

All you would have had to do is give up an F3 (would be a pick in the 40s next year) but instead you traded pick 3 for two out of contract short people.

Big lols.

 

[Philhawk]

We would've taken 14 and F2, you offered 14 and F2 with F3 coming back. All you had to do was drop the F3 and you would've got your man.

We still will.

 

[John Wayne II]

All you would have had to do is give up an F3 (would be a pick in the 40s next year) but instead you traded pick 3 for two out of contract short people.

Big lols.

You don't know whether you'll get Barrass, or how much you'll pay for him yet.

 

[Philhawk]

The only reported offer so far ive seen was 14 +F2 for Barrass + F3

If Hawks offer the same its now essentially F1+F2+F2 for Barrass +F3
 
After all the swings and roundabouts, if thats the deal WC essentially slid 3 to 12 this draft for an extra F1 + F2 + Matt Owies

Id he shocked if we offered that much. F1 and F2 at best, with something coming back.

 

[SSSSSS]

You don't know whether you'll get Barrass, or how much you'll pay for him yet.

F1+F2 with F3 coming back is still on the table.

 

[John Wayne II]

F1+F2 with F3 coming back is still on the table.

Nah we'll keep him thanks.

 

[SSSSSS]

Nah we'll keep him thanks.

Good. Hopefully you guys an give him a pay bump. He deserves it.

After all you were so strong on following up the commitment to Baker. I wonder if the same love will be shown to a Premiership champion.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Id he shocked if we offered that much. F1 and F2 at best, with something coming back.

I clearly have no idea what this Clarke bloke will do, but I'm guessing the whole point of doing Baker first was to take the pressure off the necessity to do this trade

Will see around this time tomorrow

 

[John Wayne II]

Good. Hopefully you guys an give him a pay bump. He deserves it.

After all you were so strong on following up the commitment to Baker. I wonder if the same love will be shown to a Premiership champion.

The onus is on you to make the trade Muscles

 

[ghostbat12]

F1+F2 with F3 coming back is still on the table.

Honestly, no one cares anymore. This is now purely a hawks problem. Barrass is on the table. Tic toc hawks.

 

[ghostbat12]

Good. Hopefully you guys an give him a pay bump. He deserves it.

After all you were so strong on following up the commitment to Baker. I wonder if the same love will be shown to a Premiership champion.

We committed to barrass with a 5 year contract when he signed, just like baker.

You guys courted him and made him leave his current relationship. And now you don’t want to commit?

Poor form.

 

[FB19]

We committed to barrass with a 5 year contract when he signed, just like baker.

You guys courted him and made him leave his current relationship. And now you don’t want to commit?

Poor form.

That’s ridiculous your language is like a relationship. We met with him and agreed on what the terms of an offer would be to come to hawthorn that he agreed to, now we are offering our valuation to the eagles. A future first and second is fair value for Barrass many of you have said so yourselves as the only haggle was over the f3 coming back. The deal won’t fall over for that we are historically fair to deal with the deal gets done.

 

[TylerDurden]

Are the Hawks still offering a future first and a future second?
Thats a great deal for West Coast.

What’s the hold up?

AFL want it done in the last hour for TV. Has been locked in for days.

 

[RCAB]

Hawks traded in Lake and Gibson, who with all due respect are better players than Barass, both times with a second round pick.

Barrass is not worth a first round pick. He's 30 next year, and has injury and continuity concerns.

Pick 14 is, was, already too much for a 30 year old that wants out, as we saw with the Houston deal, a player who's 2.5 years younger and one of the best players in the comp, but obviously wanted to leave, so their values decreases.

The Eagles strategy is to overvalue their player, thinking Hawthorn will meet halfway and offer a first round pick, which of course, looked good back in July when Hawks were out of the 8.

 

[FB19]

AFL want it done in the last hour for TV. Has been locked in for days.

Shame that means they won’t be throwing in pick 73 which ironically was our f4 to begin with last year.