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Id bet every cent I have itd be a multi club trade.
Traded Tom Barrass & 2025 F4 (WCE) traded to Hawthorn for 2025 F1, F2 & F3 (all Haw)
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Iceman!
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It’s fine for you not for me and hopefully not the club. I think top 4 is far from a lock next year.
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By not offering him the promised improved deal the Eagles are essentially telling him to move on. If it hasn’t happened by trade week and he requests a trade then he’s not going back there. As long as they get offered something fair, they’ll take it. I personally think pick 10 is fair. But they’ll push for as much as they can get, whilst the Hawks will know they don’t have to offer ridiculous overs because of the situation. It’ll probably end up a convoluted trade either way though, as is AFL tradition.
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I know nothing about whether Barrass or Battle are going to stay or go, but personally, I would prefer the hawks got Barrass if only one was to come. Battle comes free wrt trades, but paying large overs to a decent player has historically ended up in player payment inflation for the clubs that do it. Paying $900k/5 years for a decent player sets a difficult precedent.
Lol of course he will. If a suitable trade can't be worked out you think he's just going to retire?
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I think if it was pick 8 (which would be pick 9 on draft night?) then a straight swap is reasonable.
But if the live pick ends up drifting down lower then more is needed. How much more depends on how much it drifts.
But if the live pick ends up drifting down lower then more is needed. How much more depends on how much it drifts.
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No, I’m saying a suitable trade will be worked out because the Eagles don’t have the leverage to demand overs in this situation and hold their ground. Because he won’t be going back there.
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Players have gone back to their clubs after a failed trade request. Why would Barrass be different?
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100%, there's nuances to "contracted" these days. Contracted on players a club has basically agreed to let go already (Houston, Barrass, Lukosious?) because they actually want the capital just means you dont get stiffed, not get crazy overs. Out of contract you'd be pretty lucky to get a top 10 for a 29 year old Barrass IMO. In contract, you get the top 10 and a little bit of change probably.
Barrass is getting moved, it will just be who blinks on the value of the change. WC arent turning away the top 10 pick and Hawks arent missing on a player they really want. Both clubs will win from it.
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It’s not a typical player wanting out situation because of the background. The Eagles won’t be holding him to 3 years of a deal they promised they’d renegotiate. It’d be untenable. Either the Eagles want to keep him and he gets the new deal he was promised, or they don’t and he doesn’t and he requests a trade and he goes. One or the other happens here.
Remember its not meant to be fair, trading for contracted players is never fair
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In this case it will be. And I explained why.
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I’m sure he would do it, they all would. He may not be happy to have his promised increase held back and then they refuse to trade him because ‘they value him so highly’ though
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Hawks vs Carlton this weekend will give everyone a good idea of Barrass’s worth one way or the other. Worth keeping an eye on inside 50s to scores conversion with two elite KPFs in a finals type game. Only thing we might not see is the impact Weddle and Sicily can have if released to play further up the ground.
Curnow is in doubt so mightn't be as much of a concern as usual.
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That’s a shame, maybe we will see one of those two forward at some point.
We'll trade for him regardless mate. It's as good as done. These 2 clubs don't muck around. I'd assume the deal is already ticked off in principle and gets done quickly.
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I’m confident a trade is going to happen between two good clubs with your 1R the centrepiece, more so for the average punter this game may demonstrate why Barrass is/is not worth more than the single pick.
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I don’t think you do to be honest. But feel free to bless us with your thoughts.
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I don't agree, i think all Hawk fans acknowledge we need a Key defender. The issue is whether multiple assets for a 29 year old with back injury history is the right time to pull the trigger when we are still just starting to climb up the ladder.
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That’s a fair comment but I didn’t say anything about it being the right time for the Hawks to invest in a 29yo KPD.
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But you did say this game could show his worth to us, my point is entirely his worth isn't entirely determined by whether we need a key defender or not.
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I agree with you. But IF you decide to pursue Barrass, games like this will affect his perceived worth to the club.
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Happens all the time. Papley a great example. Barass like Papley is professional and not a giant sook. If he isn’t traded he will move on and play for his team . He would respect his teammates too much to phone it in and chuck a tantrum
Eagles would know this too which is why we would not be too upset if he stays.
