Confirmed Tom Barrass & 2025 F4 (WCE) traded to Hawthorn for 2025 F1, F2 & F3 (all Haw)

[triple treat]

And?

WCE didn't approach them, which is the point.

The point is I wouldn’t have a clue like everyone one else on here wouldn’t have a clue who approached who! Including you!

 

[bzparkes]

The point is I wouldn’t have a clue like everyone one else on here wouldn’t have a clue who approached who! Including you!

All the talk was about Barrass to Bulldogs, then when he was known to be gettable, Hawthorn suddenly entered the fray.

Pretty sure Mitchell's known for chasing players he targets personally, so I highly doubt he was sitting around hoping for Nick Gieschen to approach him when he already knows Barrass having previously played him and coached his team.

 

[ArdentEagle]

I thought I read it all on Bigfooty but then comes along a West Coast supporter saying Barrass is a better footballer then Lake WOW.

Then 3 West Coast supporters posted straight after that he isn't....Every fan base has them.

 

[triple treat]

All the talk was about Barrass to Bulldogs, then when he was known to be gettable, Hawthorn suddenly entered the fray.

Pretty sure Mitchell's known for chasing players he targets personally, so I highly doubt he was sitting around hoping for Nick Gieschen to approach him when he already knows Barrass having previously played him and coached his team.

So in other words you have no clue! Gotchya

 

[bzparkes]

So in other words you have no clue! Gotchya

Cool.

Makes zero difference to the amount Hawks will cough up for him though.

 

[triple treat]

Cool.

Makes zero difference to the amount Hawks will cough up for him though.

I agree, you’ll get out 1st and maybe a token F3 or 4

 

[bzparkes]

I agree, you’ll get out 1st and maybe a token F3 or 4

It'll be your 2nd. You'll probably get our f3rd or this year's 4th coming back.

 

[ArdentEagle]

I agree, you’ll get out 1st and maybe a token F3 or 4

I honestly think both club supporters will end up a little unhappy with the trade.

Something like;
Hawks out - *10, *27
In - Barrass, *59

And some shuffling of late future picks.

To hazzard a guess

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Lakes All Australians came at the Bulldogs. Your argument keeps getting sillier. Hahaha

Well obviously i know that. He didnt get AAs at 32.

Barass would have 2 AAs if not for McGovern. Not even 1 single doubt about it. Not many players at FB/CHB get AA playing second fiddle to someone else. Its just how the selection process works

As number 1 in Hawks he will rack up AA selections. Ill come back in 13 months time to claim my receipt when he does. You are 100% welcome to do the same

 

[triple treat]

It'll be your 2nd. You'll probably get our f3rd or this year's 4th coming back.

I thought he’s worth our 1st but if you guys are keen on a 2nd so be it

 

[triple treat]

I honestly think both club supporters will end up a little unhappy with the trade.

Something like;
Hawks out - *10, *27
In - Barrass, *59

And some shuffling of late future picks.

To hazzard a guess

If it’s pick 10, I highly doubt there’ll be anything else involved

 

[TiAn_]

Well obviously i know that. He didnt get AAs at 32.

Barass would have 2 AAs if not for McGovern. Not even 1 single doubt about it. Not many players at FB/CHB get AA playing second fiddle to someone else. Its just how the selection process works

As number 1 in Hawks he will rack up AA selections. Ill come back in 13 months time to claim my receipt when he does. You are 100% welcome to do the same

Dale Morris was All-Australian in 2008 playing with Lake lol

 

[ArdentEagle]

If it’s pick 10, I highly doubt there’ll be anything else involved

I suspect it'll end up a tad higher than that. You guys are playing some good football. Fun to watch too.

 

[Hawkinspired]

I honestly think both club supporters will end up a little unhappy with the trade.

Something like;
Hawks out - *10, *27
In - Barrass, *59

And some shuffling of late future picks.

To hazzard a guess

This works out to be pick #5 equivalent. I know precedent doesn’t account for much but what has been higher than that recently? Cameron was pick #1, Taranto pick #4

 

[bzparkes]

If it’s pick 10, I highly doubt there’ll be anything else involved

If pick 10, most would probably agree. If you go deep in finals, that's where the later picks come in.

 

[excitingnews]

Well obviously i know that. He didnt get AAs at 32.

Barass would have 2 AAs if not for McGovern. Not even 1 single doubt about it. Not many players at FB/CHB get AA playing second fiddle to someone else. Its just how the selection process works

As number 1 in Hawks he will rack up AA selections. Ill come back in 13 months time to claim my receipt when he does. You are 100% welcome to do the same

Fair enough, lake probably would have received more AA selections if dogs had won more preliminary finals during his tenure. So the final tally of all Australian selections + imaginary all Australian selections sits at 4:2 in favour of lake leaving him still as the better/more talented player

 

[ArdentEagle]

This works out to be pick #5 equivalent. I know precedent doesn’t account for much but what has been higher than that recently? Cameron was pick #1, Taranto pick #4

I would have thought TT would be a pretty good comparison value wise. Talented* KPP hold more value than their mid counterparts.

TT is younger but probably an easier type to replace than a high level KPD.

Our clubs seem to have a pretty good D+T relationship. In the end, I think everyone wins, including Barrass.

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

I honestly think both club supporters will end up a little unhappy with the trade.

Something like;
Hawks out - *10, *27
In - Barrass, *59

And some shuffling of late future picks.

To hazzard a guess

 

[ArdentEagle]

Looks like a nervous laugh to me mate...

 

[Steven Tyler]

You can’t trade a 1st and 2nd round pick in the same year unless you have 2 1sts or 2 2nds

Hawks have their 1st and Collingwood’s 2nd

 

[HeHateMe]

How would WC fans feel if the trade look something like: Baker, Sheldrick and a top 20 pick.

 

[stallon]

Stop smoking crack barrass is a very good full back but Lake sits alongside Gov, Rance, McPharlin, Scarlett tier of KPD of the last 20 years absurd claim

The disrespect to Gov and Scarlett putting those other blokes in that list

 

[stallon]

This works out to be pick #5 equivalent. I know precedent doesn’t account for much but what has been higher than that recently? Cameron was pick #1, Taranto pick #4

Would you trade pick 5 for 10 and 27?

No, so dont value picks like that

Thats about pick 8 or 9 value

 

[ArdentEagle]

The disrespect to Gov and Scarlett putting those other blokes in that list

Rance and McPharlin were both elite defenders.

Franklin rated McPharlin his toughest opponent and Rance was a 5 time all Australian and 3 time Tigers B+F.

 

[stallon]

Rance and McPharlin were both elite defenders.

Franklin rated McPharlin his toughest opponent and Rance was a 5 time all Australian and 3 time Tigers B+F.

Im aware, but Gov and Scarlett are the next tier above.
Scarlett has to be just about unanimous best FB last 20 year, and Gov well we know what he is