Confirmed Tom Barrass & 2025 F4 (WCE) traded to Hawthorn for 2025 F1, F2 & F3 (all Haw)

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You guys are not getting 2 firsts here, I don't know why a lot of you, who are generally reasonable, think you are. Like, this is going to be amicable and not as hard as to do as you are all making out.
This years 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder, for 3 Melbourne to Sydney Business class tickets for Ginnas, Sicily and Sammy boy?
 
What the eagles want and what hawks will be will likely be 2 separate things.

I’d much rather our list management team walked away from the deal than put 2 firsts on the table.

He’s just not worth that much.
It all depends on where your club thinks you'll finish.

Seems a lot are just thinking "OMG, first rounder, arrrgggh!!!" And not putting stock into where it ends up.

If you fall away and it's a top 10 pick next year then yes, too much(like Schulz for Collingwood).

If it's closer to a second rounder, especially with how compromised the first round is meant to be next year, then it's fine.

People suggesting a first and second rounder aren't necessarily considering this either. What if the second rounder was at the start of the second round? That's only 1 pick away from the first round but for some it's acceptable?
 

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It all depends on where your club thinks you'll finish.

Seems a lot are just thinking "OMG, first rounder, arrrgggh!!!" And not putting stock into where it ends up.

If you fall away and it's a top 10 pick next year then yes, too much(like Schulz for Collingwood).

If it's closer to a second rounder, especially with how compromised the first round is meant to be next year, then it's fine.

People suggesting a first and second rounder aren't necessarily considering this either. What if the second rounder was at the start of the second round? That's only 1 pick away from the first round but for some it's acceptable?
If we fall away next year and finish last it having our future 1st would be much better than only having our future second.

Even finishing up higher on the ladder having pick 14-16 is better than say 22 and 34.

It’s a lot of risk to massively overpay for Barrass. I don’t want to pay more than a first. A first and future second would be my hard limit. I just hope the list management team is prepared to walk away if need be
 
It is a big change and well above what Barrass is worth when included with pick 13.

Moving up in the draft costs a decent amount
Barrass will cost your first rounder and some decent change it doesn’t get done for short of 13 plus 30 or your 2025RD pick
 
If we fall away next year and finish last it having our future 1st would be much better than only having our future second.

Even finishing up higher on the ladder having pick 14-16 is better than say 22 and 34.

It’s a lot of risk to massively overpay for Barrass. I don’t want to pay more than a first. A first and future second would be my hard limit. I just hope the list management team is prepared to walk away if need be
That's your limit, doesn't mean that's your list management team's limit, especially if they've been told by Mitchell to go get Barrass.

They may not consider it an overpay at all, if it fills a need they consider big enough.
 

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Barrass will cost your first rounder and some decent change it doesn’t get done for short of 13 plus 30 or your 2025RD pick

That's the type of return you get for a prime 24 year old Tom Barrass not a 29 year old with his health issues. Hawthorn will probably get 3 decent seasons out of him and the last two will be spent predominantly in rehab, fixing his broken back from WC mismanagement.
 
That's the type of return you get for a prime 24 year old Tom Barrass not a 29 year old with his health issues. Hawthorn will probably get 3 decent seasons out of him and the last two will be spent predominantly in rehab, fixing his broken back from WC mismanagement.
Everything you say is so laughably dumb.
 
Because we gave him a what, 6 year contract?

You think it's appropriate to give him 8 for no reason?

WCE aren't Melbourne/Bulldogs.

It sounds like WC doesn't believe his body is sufficiently reliable to make it for the additional years. This on top of WC backing out of the handshake agreement made last off-season to renegotiate his contract in line with market rates.

It seems as if WC has done the dirty on Tom and are now using him as trade bait and waiting for a sucker to bite.
 
Because we gave him a what, 6 year contract?

You think it's appropriate to give him 8 for no reason?

WCE aren't Melbourne/Bulldogs.

I don't understand. Breust has been at Hawthorn for 16 seasons, should we not have extended his contract to 17 seasons?

You're saying 8 is too long?

Either way, we can always go after Harley Reid instead. Good mates with Watson.
 
I don't understand. Breust has been at Hawthorn for 16 seasons, should we not have extended his contract to 17 seasons?

You're saying 8 is too long?

Either way, we can always go after Harley Reid instead. Good mates with Watson.
8 is always too long for any player. Ridiculous to offer a contract that big.

Reid's better mates with Jason Gilbee and Campbell Chesser, who are both at WCE.

Love it how Vic supporters always say "We'll go get Harley then."

It ain't happening.
 
It sounds like WC doesn't believe his body is sufficiently reliable to make it for the additional years. This on top of WC backing out of the handshake agreement made last off-season to renegotiate his contract in line with market rates.

It seems as if WC has done the dirty on Tom and are now using him as trade bait and waiting for a sucker to bite.

I'll say it a second time, since you've completely avoided the question, as expected.

Explain to me how WCE have 'mismanaged' his injury.
 

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Confirmed Tom Barrass & 2025 F4 (WCE) traded to Hawthorn for 2025 F1, F2 & F3 (all Haw)

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