Restricted Free Agent Tom De Koning

[The Nostradamus]

TDK a restricted free agent who will command million dollar plus offers

Can the blues fit him in their cap?

If not will they match a bid and force a trade?

 

[THE_GUN]

This boy is going to get very big $$$$ thrown at him

You would have to think Geelong & St Kilda will be coming hard for him

 

[AndyLucimitis]

Easy to say at this stage but the general feeling from Carlton supporters is we don't want to 'break the bank' over TDK.

 

[james Dean]

Easy to say at this stage but the general feeling from Carlton supporters is we don't want to 'break the bank' over TDK.

Yeah he's a good player but of our stars (Curnow, McKay, Walsh, Cripps, Weitering) he's clearly below their level. Obviously the preference would be to keep him, but if he needs to leave then get a couple of firsts for him.

 

[Orange Agent]

What would his current deal be worth to make RFA cut?

Cripps, Curnow, Walsh, Harry, Wieters, Williams, Cerra, Doc, Hewett plus him I'm guessing would be the 25%. Hewett was an RFA at Sydney, Cerra was rumoured to have turned down $750k at Freo, Williams was more than that. Not sure if they average the length of the contract or just use the 2025 figures.

 

[JustaBattler]

This boy is going to get very big $$$$ thrown at him

You would have to think Geelong & St Kilda will be coming hard for him

As long as he doesnt kid himself he is worth more than Cripps or Weitering - Carlton will have more than enough for him and his brother.

 

[The Nostradamus]

As long as he doesnt kid himself he is worth more than Cripps or Weitering - Carlton will have more than enough for him and his brother.

So if clubs offer him coin that rivals those blokes you mentioned

He should say no thanks I don’t deserve that?

You are what the market tells you you are

He doesn’t need to be better to earn more

 

[Jeff76]

Let’s be serious if he wants success we all know where he’s going.


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[JustaBattler]

So if clubs offer him coin that rivals those blokes you mentioned

He should say no thanks I don’t deserve that?

You are what the market tells you you are

He doesn’t need to be better to earn more

where did I say that?

Let’s be serious if he wants success we all know where he’s going.


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yep - he doesn't have to go anywhere does he?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Blues freed up plenty of coin this off season and have a bucket load coming off the books at the end of this year too.

I don't think there's any chance he's walking as a FA without a matched bid and a trade unless someone like the Richmond offer him the biggest contract in AFL history.

With that in mind is any team willing to stump up what the Blue would be asking for in a trade? Not so sure.

 

[MITSUHIRATO]

What would his current deal be worth to make RFA cut?

Cripps, Curnow, Walsh, Harry, Wieters, Williams, Cerra, Doc, Hewett plus him I'm guessing would be the 25%. Hewett was an RFA at Sydney, Cerra was rumoured to have turned down $750k at Freo, Williams was more than that. Not sure if they average the length of the contract or just use the 2025 figures.

Hewett is on peanuts (circa $450k per year)

Cerra is on $600k per year (he took less than what was on offer from Freo)

 

[KissKiss]

What would his current deal be worth to make RFA cut?

Cripps, Curnow, Walsh, Harry, Wieters, Williams, Cerra, Doc, Hewett plus him I'm guessing would be the 25%. Hewett was an RFA at Sydney, Cerra was rumoured to have turned down $750k at Freo, Williams was more than that. Not sure if they average the length of the contract or just use the 2025 figures.

Williams would likely have been front ended a heap (at least you'd hope so) so for Carlton's sake you hope it's the latest year figure and not the average

 

[Orange Agent]

Hewett is on peanuts (circa $450k per year)

Cerra is on $600k per year (he took less than what was on offer from Freo)

So who is in the top 25% of earners at Carlton?

 

[bzparkes]

Let’s be serious if he wants success we all know where he’s going.


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Hawthorn?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

So who is in the top 25% of earners at Carlton?

From what we 'know'... Essentially what our in the know posters on our board have said, it's something like this

Cripps 1 million
Curnow 850k
Weitering 850k
McKay 850k
Williams 800k
Walsh 800k
TDK 700k
Saad 700k
Cerra 600k

McGovern and Docherty used to be on big coin but no idea what they'd be on nowadays. Hewett and Acres on fairly modest contracts in comparison to the top liners.

Williams obviously the one that sticks out as a bit of a stinker.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Cap just went up dramatically. There isn't a club in the land incompetent enough to be under serious salary cap pressure right now.

TDK might chase serious coin elsewhere though and it might be too much for Carlton to really consider unless they want to be the first outlier in the above

 

[bradfisher14]

Cap just went up dramatically. There isn't a club in the land incompetent enough to be under serious salary cap pressure right now.

TDK might chase serious coin elsewhere though and it might be too much for Carlton to really consider unless they want to be the first outlier in the above

I think you'd be surprised. Most contracts would have salary cap increases built into the fine print.

For example, a player with an 800k deal in season 2025 when the cap is 7.675m, but was negotiated under the previous CBA. 2024-2026 the total increases of the cap will be around 6.5%. Therefore an 800k deal becomes a 852k deal.

You then play that out across the entire TPP structure, which means that there won't be as much cap space flying around as people think. Not every deal would have this built in, but a large majority of the long term ones would.

 

[eaglevision]

I think you'd be surprised. Most contracts would have salary cap increases built into the fine print.

For example, a player with an 800k deal in season 2025 when the cap is 7.675m. 2024-2026 the total increases of the cap will be around 6.5%. Therefore an 800k deal becomes a 852k deal.

You then play that out across the entire TPP structure, which means that there won't be as much cap space flying around as people think. Not every deal would have this built in, but a large majority of the long term ones would.

WCE and Essendon are the two clubs that refused to tie salary to cap increases. Now whether that means the salary was a bit higher initially to compensate we don’t know but that and being rubbish for a number of years would mean they would be two clubs with room to move, even after the recruitment of the lesser McKay.

There will be offers out there that Carlton can’t afford to match, it just depends on TDK’s motivation. Is it financial security or loyalty to his club and mates with the chance of premiership success.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I can see a club like Essendon letting Draper go to get in De Koning. Im thinking 6 year 9 mill type deal so Carlton wont match

 

[eaglevision]

I can see a club like Essendon letting Draper go to get in De Koning. Im thinking 6 year 9 mill type deal so Carlton wont match

Only issue there is if Essendon are prepared to lose the Draper FA compo. Both SA clubs are likely to offer him good money.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Only issue there is if Essendon are prepared to lose the Draper FA compo. Both SA clubs are likely to offer him good money.

Would force a trade though. Essendon can match anything they offer without breaking a sweat.

I think Adelaide would simply cough up and trade him in

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I think you'd be surprised. Most contracts would have salary cap increases built into the fine print.

For example, a player with an 800k deal in season 2025 when the cap is 7.675m, but was negotiated under the previous CBA. 2024-2026 the total increases of the cap will be around 6.5%. Therefore an 800k deal becomes a 852k deal.

You then play that out across the entire TPP structure, which means that there won't be as much cap space flying around as people think. Not every deal would have this built in, but a large majority of the long term ones would.

I would be pretty surprised. Not all contracts have that and even if they did the gap is still proportionately increasing with it. You'd have to be bad at your job to be underwater with cap right now

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Would force a trade though. Essendon can match anything they offer without breaking a sweat.

I think Adelaide would simply cough up and trade him in

Would they want to though?

 

[eaglevision]

Would force a trade though. Essendon can match anything they offer without breaking a sweat.

I think Adelaide would simply cough up and trade him in

Not so sure about that. If he’s offered $1m+ a year and Adelaide call their bluff and say no thanks there’s no way they get TDK as well on the numbers you suggested.

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

Blues freed up plenty of coin this off season .....

Did they?
Or did they sign Weitering up on a lot of coin and they couldn't afford to offer contracts to Kennedy, Owies and Martin without blowing up the salary cap.
The way Carlton traded in no one and looked to trade solid players reminded me of Collingwood 2019 when we gave away Aish. The next year our cap almost blew up because we 'had' to sign a ruck on big coin.