Strategy Trade and List Management thread 2.(...the waiting for the hammer to fall edition)

[Mofra]

I do not get Mayne. Doesn't kick goals and doesn't play midfield. Apart from decent tackling pressure what does this guy offer.

His defensive pressure in the F50 is elite, it is a massive weakness of Collingwood.

Thing is, I actually think Honeychurch is elite in this area as well but he's not going to play ahead of Clay Smith in this role.

 

[TW Sherrin]

Mayne to Collingwood on 4 year deal (500 - 550k a season). That is absolute craziness. Has the world gone mad.
Goldsack is the exact same type and level of player on much much less. This is stupidity of the highest order.

source?

 

[footyfan000001]

Mayne to Collingwood on 4 year deal (500 - 550k a season). That is absolute craziness. Has the world gone mad.
Goldsack is the exact same type and level of player on much much less. This is stupidity of the highest order.

Bucks getting desperate for results it seems. Next season is his last chance. They will probably add Mayne, Wells and Dal Santo next season which is ridiculous.

 

[StringyDog]

Well if we use your logic , then Dunkley is gone as well. Played one more game than Jong and polled only 8 more votes (25th).

Jong is an excellent squad player, who's stocks have risen every year (initially slated as a development player).
Its got nothing at all about where he finished this year, but what contribution he can make in the future and possibly where he ends up in B&F in the future.

Dude, Seriously, Dunkley is in year 1, Jong is in year 5. He is going.

 

[TW Sherrin]

So they are so desperate to get rid of Cloke who kicked about 20 goals this year in his worst season that they are giving him to us for free and replacing him with a 28 year old Mayne on more money and 3 additional years who averages about 20 goals every year........ok then, good luck Collingwood

its a great story but there's another story that he's on 350-400k.

maybe you're right and then maybe we are deliberately triggering a 2nd round pick for freo as part of another trade. so in effect buying a better pick. who knows.

aside from that I'd love to trade for Tom Campbell. cloke and a 2nd? TC looks surplus now.

 

[TW Sherrin]

Bucks getting desperate for results it seems. Next season is his last chance. They will probably add Mayne, Wells and Dal Santo next season which is ridiculous.

as bucks as already said no to NDS that ain't happening.

if mayne plays in front of blair 99% of our board will celebrate. happy with wells but not with the 3 year part.

 

[Dav1d]

Went up to Jason McCartney last night at the Best and Fairest and shook his hand thanking him and congratulating him on one of the greatest list builds in memory. Absolute gun.

Did they need to use a crow bar to pry your hands apart?

 

[jdz101]

Mayne to Collingwood on 4 year deal (500 - 550k a season). That is absolute craziness. Has the world gone mad.
Goldsack is the exact same type and level of player on much much less. This is stupidity of the highest order.

All the other collingwood deals you can sort of half-justify, but that one is legitimately ******ed. Averaged less than a goal a game for the past 3 seasons as a permanent half forward and has no discernible elite talents other than being mediocre across the board.

Just mind boggling.

 

[godoggies15]

Hearing strong rumours that Marcus Adams is not a well liked person and is wanting to go back home. He tends to have a go at the younger players and it became such an issue that Moz had to step in and say something. Rohan Smith not a fan either. Anybody else hearing this?

 

[hujsh]

source?

I know I heard it on trade radio earlier but can't remember where it came from (or even if it was just a rumour)

 

[hujsh]

Hearing strong rumours that Marcus Adams is not a well liked person and is wanting to go back home. He tends to have a go at the younger players and it became such an issue that Moz had to step in and say something. Anybody else hearing this?

Read he bought a house just recently in the Western Suburbs.

 

[ScragCity]

Hearing strong rumours that Marcus Adams is not a well liked person and is wanting to go back home. He tends to have a go at the younger players and it became such an issue that Moz had to step in and say something. Rohan Smith not a fan either. Anybody else hearing this?

Can you stop making up bullshit rumours about our players? Cheers.

 

[jdz101]

Hearing strong rumours that Marcus Adams is not a well liked person and is wanting to go back home. He tends to have a go at the younger players and it became such an issue that Moz had to step in and say something. Rohan Smith not a fan either. Anybody else hearing this?

I highly doubt a guy who has been given a chance as a mature age first year player would be a doosh to other first year players. The shoe just doesn't fit.

 

[ringa5]

Wonder if Cloke will do some time in the Ruck now Minson is gone?

 

[Easty]

aside from that I'd love to trade for Tom Campbell. cloke and a 2nd? TC looks surplus now.

We have 2 ruckmen on our list now Minson has left. Fail to see how one of them is surplus to our requirements.

 

[Yojimbo]

Has there ever been another premiership team with more former rookies (Boyd, Moz, Picken, Dahl, JJ and Biggs) than first round picks (Bont, String, Macrae, Smith and Boyd)?

ROOKIE (15 games a season plus 2015 to 2000)

2015 (+15 games)
14- Tom Papley 20 games.
22- Anthony McDonald Tipungwuti 21 games.
25- Josh Smith 18 games.
38- Ryan Davis 19 games.
44- Tom Ruggles 18 games.

2014 (+30 games)
None.

2013 (+45 games)
7- Charlie Cameron 49 games.
20- Maverick Weller 58 games.
26- Patrick Ambrose 50 games.
27- Anthony Miles 55 games.
50- Neville Jetta 53 games.

2012 (+60 games)
16- Jake Lloyd 69 Games.
37- Dane Rampe 98 games.

2011 (+75 games)
5- Rory Laird 76 games.
8- Lee Spurr 104 games.
47- Mark Baguley 82 games.
54- Mark Blicavs 90 games.
63- Sam Gibson 108 games.

2010 (+90 games)
12- Josh Jenkins 93 games.
18- Ed Curnow 109 games.
22- Luke Dahlhaus 115 games.

2009 (+105 games)
8- Michael Barlow 126 games.
30- Ben Howlett 117 games.
33- Matthew Wright 116 games.
73- Zach Tuohy 120 games.

2008 (+120 games)
6- Jeff Garlett 146 games.
13- Zac Dawson 150 games.
19- Matt DeBoer 138 games.
27- Jarryd Blair 143 games.
30- Liam Picken 176 games.
47- Luke Breust 140 games.
76- Sam Jacobs 149 games.

2007 (+135 games)
57- Shane Mumford 151 games.

2006 (+150 games)
10- Sharrod Wellingham 158 games.
15- Nick Smith 167 games.
17- Michael Jamison 150 games.
27- Jarrod Harbrow 184 games.
50- Tom Lonergan 179 games.

2005 (+165 games)
7- Paul Duffield 171 games.
31- Matthew Priddis 219 games.
55- Ben McGlynn 171 games.
57- Keiran Jack 210 games.

2004 (+180 games)
7- Josh Gibson 213 games.
16- Danyle Pearce 248 games.
19- Dale Morris 230 games.
20- Heritier Lumumba 223 games.
39- Ryan Crowley 196 games.
42- Heath Grundy 213 games.

2003 (+195 games)
None.

2002 (+210 games)
10- Michael Firrito 275 games.
14- Joel Patfull 220 games.

2001 (+225 games)
19- Quentin Lynch 227 games.
23- Matthew Boyd 282 games.
33- Aaron Sandilands 244 games.
40- Ben Rutten 229 games.

2000 (+240 games)
None.

Seems to be a few Sydney players on the list.

 

[LittleG]

Hearing strong rumours that Marcus Adams is not a well liked person and is wanting to go back home. He tends to have a go at the younger players and it became such an issue that Moz had to step in and say something. Rohan Smith not a fan either. Anybody else hearing this?

Making up your own rumors to try and troll us. Are you a Freo or WC fan?

 

[Ozil]

Hearing strong rumours that Marcus Adams is not a well liked person and is wanting to go back home. He tends to have a go at the younger players and it became such an issue that Moz had to step in and say something. Rohan Smith not a fan either. Anybody else hearing this?

Unequivocally false.

Quiet lad who is harder on himself than anyone. Loves the club and the city and has no immediate plans to leave.

 

[TW Sherrin]

We have 2 ruckmen on our list now Minson has left. Fail to see how one of them is surplus to our requirements.

you expect to play boyd, roughead, cloke and campbell in the same team? it will be too slow.

Campbell is a senior capable ruck. not many of those are happy to sit in the 2s for extended periods.

 

[Dogsman16]

source?

Trade Radio - Peter Ryan

Roughead|Boyd|Campbell essentially fighting for 2 spots

Campbell is certainly senior ruck capable. Best utilised as a ruck who plays good minutes forward.

 

[TW Sherrin]

Trade Radio - Peter Ryan

Roughead|Boyd|Campbell essentially fighting for 2 spots

Campbell is certainly senior ruck capable. Best utilised as a ruck who plays good minutes forward.

he was killing witts in the nab cup game until injured (and then witts got on top). imo, I'd be chasing him before witts if I was GCS but don't tell them.

I also reckon he's better value forward than cloke!

 

[BRWB]

you expect to play boyd, roughead, cloke and campbell in the same team? it will be too slow.

Campbell is a senior capable ruck. not many of those are happy to sit in the 2s for extended periods.

Campbell re-signed this yr extremely unlikely he goes anywhere

 

[footyfan000001]

Ridiculous rumour about Adams. Seems shy and a hard worker who wouldnt throw an opportunity away as a mature age recruit.

 

[Zgope1]

Both Adams rumour posters have suspicious troll written voices

 

[Dogsman16]

he was killing witts in the nab cup game until injured (and then witts got on top). imo, I'd be chasing him before witts if I was GCS but don't tell them.

I also reckon he's better value forward than cloke!

Only way I see all 3 of Campbell/Roughead/Boyd in the same team is if we go small in defence and Boyd needs to do what he did in the grand final more often. Rucking has improved Boyds workrate and confidence though so I'm not sure if we move him into a permanent forward role.

I think Bev can get more out of Cloke though than what he has produced recently.