Strategy Trade and List management Thread (cont in Part 2)

[JJHunter]

When has any of that mattered? I get what you’re saying, but history suggests that a player picks a club and then it’s up to those two clubs to work something out. Very rare that a player will say, ok I’ll go to this other club instead then if you can’t work out a deal with my preferred club

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Sing it brother !

What picks we have and what hawks have is IRRELEVANT

 

[maddog37]

Go to your bedroom.
Jump in bed
Then get out of the bed on the opposite side you did this morning please.

If you think that the decision will come down to Hawthorns pick vs ours you are delusional.

Like all players these days - Chad is simply going to pick the club he wants to go to.
Power are then left to deal with whatever club is picked for the best trade value.
He is contracted and cannot be sent anywhere against his will.

So to start off with - Lets not throw the Pick 15 vs Pick 7 up. Its IRRELEVANT !!
Lets not talk about a relationship with Trengrove - Its largely irrelevant when he has another mate at Hawthorn.
And that is not being defeatest - that is being a realist !
Anyone with common sense who has watched the trade market over the last 5 years would agree.

So it comes down to where Chad wants to play his footy. Plain and simple.
He may be driven by money and take the highest bidder - Thats probably in our favour.
He may be interested in a place that addresses and manages his indigenous culture.
He may be swayed by the Hawks culture of winning flags and playing under Clarko.
These things we really dont know and wouldnt have a clue.

Are we in it - of course we are.
Am I less positive because the hawks have interest - Totally - and I would suggest the majority would be

Out Cyril: in Chad. Very hawthorn like.

 

[ScottyDogg]

Why are people worrying about our cap space and contracts?

Has no one done the obvious back of the napkin calculation and realised we are absolutely cashed up?

The numbers below are totally out of my ass but even if I am way off we have a total war chest to spend.

Dahlhaus - 400
Roughead - 450
Biggs - 300
Clay - 175
Wallis - 400
Webby - 250
Honey - 200
Campbell - 200
Kieran Colon - minimum chips
Nathan MM - minimum chips
Libba - reduced salary

Not to mention half of our starting 22 are on peanuts:
Ed
Naughts
Schache
Lynch
Jong
Green
Williams
Growers
English
Dickson
Dale
Adams

Plus the money we supposedly already had aside for a big fish like Hurley.

Plus the increase in cap

=

A pile of cash to spend on multiple big fish and pay Bont what he deserves and to fill our list spots with draft picks.

Stop winging, grab some popcorn and watch while we prove that our list management has been spot on.

Hawthorn has no hope of landing Wingard, they have no money (one of the oldest teams in the league) and no picks.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Port board saying Chad met with Clarkson today. Not sure where...

 

[TedDougChris]

It does depend how fractured things are between Wingard and Port. Why would you take pick 15 this year (which won’t get you what you want) and accept all the grief you get from the members - when you would get pick 10 - 15 next year when he is a free agent ??

I know it doesn’t mean much, but Port have said only if the deal is good enough. So if they can patch things up with Wingard - 15 alone doesn’t do it for mine.

Not saying we won’t have competition though...

 

[footyfan000001]

Port board saying Chad met with Clarkson today. Not sure where...

Doubt it. Hawks have nothing to give up.

 

[Testekill]

Watch from about 2mins in this vid. Something absolutely shitful must have gone down in SA this year. Chad loved that place.

Someone on the Port board said that Trengove was their heart and soul and it may be difficult to argue with that statement.

 

[Mojorisin]

Doubt it. Hawks have nothing to give up.

Future picks make life easier in trading these day.

 

[Doggy]

Doubt it. Hawks have nothing to give up.

Except convince him to wait until next year

 

[footyfan000001]

Unfortunately that’s AFL footy. Now we need to make sure we convince him that we are the club for him!

 

[Dogs Rule]

Out Cyril: in Chad. Very hawthorn like.

So does the club roll over and just take it up the a*** because Hawthorn are involved or does it roll up the sleeves and make it happen?

Get in there Dogs. Take no **** and fight hard for what you want.

 

[Mojorisin]

Schache

I believe schache is on decent money. Around 600k

 

[Richielad101]

I believe schache is on decent money. Around 600k

Are you sure...

 

[ScottyDogg]

I believe schache is on decent money. Around 600k

Why would we have given him JJ money when he was basically desperate to go anywhere in Victoria and nobody picked him up until our last minute trade? Doesn’t make any sense to me.

 

[Mojorisin]

Are you sure...

In short. No. But I believe we took over the contract he had recently signed at Brisbane. Sure someone will have a better idea

 

[slapper]

On around $300-$350k


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[Pannalstaroz]

I believe schache is on decent money. Around 600k

Nope

 

[Northernsoul74]

On around $300-$350k


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I thought it is generally accepted it was about $350k.

 

[MJ_Dogs]

Out Cyril: in Chad. Very hawthorn like.

Yep. Clarko specifically mentioned in his press conference the hole Cyril left on their list. Wingard the ultimate replacement.

 

[Pannalstaroz]

Watch from about 2mins in this vid. Something absolutely shitful must have gone down in SA this year. Chad loved that place.

That’s a genuinely hilarious video

 

[Mojorisin]

I thought it is generally accepted it was about $350k.

Happy to stand corrected. Going off my memory. (Which is more and more commonly failing me)

 

[dergert]

Chris Grant deserves to be shot if we are paging schache 600k. No chance.

 

[MJ_Dogs]

So does the club roll over and just take it up the a*** because Hawthorn are involved or does it roll up the sleeves and make it happen?

Get in there Dogs. Take no **** and fight hard for what you want.

Who said we aren’t? I think you’re looking at this at the wrong angle. It’s not the club. It’s the players’ attitudes of wanting to go to a big club with success. The big free agents this year all look like going to Richmond, Collingwood and Hawthorn. 3 big clubs in the top 4!! It’s total bs!!

 

[Mr. Walker]

What are the Chad's numbers from the last two years? His asking price is high so i would want to see that he has been delivering what we need.

If it is a choice between getting Shiel/Kelly or Wingard, well sorry Chad.

 

[TedDougChris]

What are the Chad's numbers from the last two years? His asking price is high so i would want to see that he has been delivering what we need.

If it is a choice between getting Shiel/Kelly or Wingard, well sorry Chad.

Kelly > Wingard > Shiel - just IMHO of course ....