Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 4 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[BrunswickDog]

Lipinski reminds me of nathan hrovat

Nathan Hrovat

Age

30

Ht

175cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.5

3star

No current season stats available

D

14.8

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.8

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.2

3star

. Good citizen, fringe player, good disposal, but lacking something.

I think that the guy is a solid footballer, and good luck to him wherever he ends up.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Lipinski reminds me of nathan hrovat. Good citizen, fringe player, good disposal, but lacking something.

I think that the guy is a solid footballer, and good luck to him wherever he ends up.

I think he’s better than that.

 

[Jeff 1975]

We are always going to lose players we would rather not lose, that is just the nature of the AFL. We just need to continue to trade and more importantly draft well.

I agree with the idea of drafting up
However its always a difficulted task for us sadly

 

[Sharkey66]

Looking at the video from the game tonight i simply cannot see wally asking for a trade.

 

[Mutt]

My goodness, we need a ruckman. I don't know whether Sweet can be that man...but if the Coach thinks he can't, then we need to have a red hot crack at everyone who can play that role in our system.

 

[Northernsoul74]

My goodness, we need a ruckman. I don't know whether Street can be that man...but if the Coach thinks he can't, then we need to have a red hot crack at everyone who can play that role in our system.

Yep a journeyman will do.

 

[ossie_21]

Yep a journeyman will do.

I think Ceglar would be the best balanced option on a scale of realistic & achievable.

not in the top tier of rucks, but a lot better than anyone else we’ve got and still has a good few years left in him

 

[Sharkey66]

My goodness, we need a ruckman. I don't know whether Street can be that man...but if the Coach thinks he can't, then we need to have a red hot crack at everyone who can play that role in our system.

Pretty sure Street Wont be the man, Sweet on the other hand Might just fill the void if we decide to play him

 

[Mutt]

Pretty sure Street Wont be the man, Sweet on the other hand Might just fill the void if we decide to play him

Holy shit. I'm a moron. How embarressment.

 

[adogsfan5]

Based on what Bevo said tonight to fox footy pre game, our ruck department will look different next season.

 

[adogsfan5]

Looking at the video from the game tonight i simply cannot see wally asking for a trade.

Nup he stays I reckon. Maybe works on a new role.

 

[Smiley Boy]

Based on what Bevo said tonight to fox footy pre game, our ruck department will look different next season.

What did he say?

 

[Northernsoul74]

Based on what Bevo said tonight to fox footy pre game, our ruck department will look different next season.

Wonder if that is confirmation Martin is done.

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

Would be more than happy to give Tarrant two years. Him with Keath is a nice combo.

 

[Mofra]

Based on what Bevo said tonight to fox footy pre game, our ruck department will look different next season.

Power said we'll be more aggressive at the trade table this year. Bevo has said we want more ruck support for English. Media reports suggest we're "all in" for a ruckman.

Imagine last night's game with a legitimate R1 instead of Lewie Young. We're in a good spot list wise

 

[Chalky White]

I don’t recall saying you could not be a good player and not win a premiership…?

Moreso suggesting good players that may be dickheads potentially hinder team success, by pointing 4/5 players you mentioned bringing in are yet to win a flag.

Who cares if they played in a grand final? Don’t get anything for second place.

Personally don’t think you can win multiple flags and have a sh*t culture in this day and age. Bringing in a divisive player, risks the fabric of a club.

Fwiw, I am not even suggesting the players you mentioned are dickheads (I can’t even remember who you mentioned), I am supporting the list management methodology of bringing good people through the door as I think that will drive team success.



Like I said, I never saw him play.

I can only comment on what has been reported in the media following his career.

There are also a number of stories of him not knowing his team mates names. From my perspective that’s pretty self indulgent and disrespectful not to learn your team mates names.

I guess that was a different era though.

I did see him play live. I saw him tear as a new one at The Western Oval. I saw GA do the same.
Lockett wasn't selfish. Get that through your head. He stood up and kicked goals, exactly like Dunstall but meaner.
He didn't bother chasing defenders, Dunstall did. But I'm guessing Locketts coaches didn't need him to.
Ablett was selfish, with good reason. The most explosive, freakish player ever. But defensively terrible. Played more as a roaming forward rather than stay at home forward. He was an exciting player.
As for players names. St Kilda in those days were so bad it's not surprising. They had players nobody knew.

 

[Chalky White]

Wonder if that is confirmation Martin is done.

I would say absolutely

 

[Chalky White]

Agree
If we lose Lipinski we may live to regret it

How? He doesn't get a game now, he isn't even an emergency. He may well become a good player and do really well at another club.
I would rather he go and do well than rot in the VFL with us. He has to go, we need to facilitate a trade for him to get an opportunity elsewhere. Being greedy is not helpful to Lipi or the club long-term.
Nobody is indispensable...maybe Bont, but he's rare air.

 

[Chalky White]

Power said we'll be more aggressive at the trade table this year. Bevo has said we want more ruck support for English. Media reports suggest we're "all in" for a ruckman.

Imagine last night's game with a legitimate R1 instead of Lewie Young. We're in a good spot list wise

I still think we need to play Sweet. Particularly v The Port Rats. Too much to ask Lewy to compete v those big blokes.

 

[cherrypie]

2016: Former Lion Jed Adcock

Jed Adcock

Age

38

Ht

183cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.4

4star

K

10.3

4star

HB

7.1

4star

M

4.5

4star

T

3.6

5star

MG

214.0

3star

No current season stats available

D

8.8

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

2.2

4star

moves for the last season of his career. Plays 7 games in the H&A season, 0 finals. We have to win the flag from outside the top 4.

2021: Former Lion Stefan Martin

8

Stefan Martin

Age

37

Ht

198cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.4

4star

K

8.4

3star

HB

8.0

5star

CL

4.0

5star

HO

23.5

5star

D

6.4

1star

K

4.2

2star

HB

2.2

2star

CL

2.6

4star

HO

18.4

5star

D

11.6

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

5.6

4star

HO

1.0

4star

moves for the last season of his career. Plays 7 games in the H&A season, 0 finals. We have to win the flag from outside the top 4.

 

[TedDougChris]

2016: Former Lion Jed Adcock moves for the last season of his career. Plays 7 games in the H&A season, 0 finals. We have to win the flag from outside the 8.

2021: Former Lion Stefan Martin moves for the last season of his career. Plays 7 games in the H&A season, 0 finals. We have to win the flag from outside the 8.

Winning the flag from outside the 8 !!!!

 

[cherrypie]

Winning the flag from outside the 8 !!!!

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I um... nobody saw that. Nothing to see here

 

[TedDougChris]

I um... nobody saw that. Nothing to see here

At first neither did I - but then I did....

Good quirky stat !!

 

[Here we go dogs]

I did see him play live. I saw him tear as a new one at The Western Oval. I saw GA do the same.
Lockett wasn't selfish. Get that through your head. He stood up and kicked goals, exactly like Dunstall but meaner.
He didn't bother chasing defenders, Dunstall did. But I'm guessing Locketts coaches didn't need him to.
Ablett was selfish, with good reason. The most explosive, freakish player ever. But defensively terrible. Played more as a roaming forward rather than stay at home forward. He was an exciting player.
As for players names. St Kilda in those days were so bad it's not surprising. They had players nobody knew.

Cool, whatever man. I’m not here to argue about locketts credentials as a player.

Hear to have have robust discussion about the best list management philosophy to win the dogs premierships

 

[doggy_dog]

2016: Former Lion Jed Adcock moves for the last season of his career. Plays 7 games in the H&A season, 0 finals. We have to win the flag from outside the top 4.

2021: Former Lion Stefan Martin moves for the last season of his career. Plays 7 games in the H&A season, 0 finals. We have to win the flag from outside the top 4.

If this actually happens can we recruit Birchall next year