Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 4 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

Naughton just brings too much to the forward line to send him back. I see our future tall forward line as being Naughton, JUH, and then English and Darcy rotating ruck and forward. By the time Darcy's ready Bruce will be quite late in his career.

Thats how i see it too.

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

Pretty amazing impact he has had on the club when you consider he came over as a no fuss recruit. Is a highly respected assistant coach who is directly responsible for bringing Soldo and Balta to the club along with Noah Colina. Top bloke too.

100% agree with everything you posted

except 1 thing !

Its Mate Colina

 

[weltschmerz]

I was actually keen on Biggy Nyuon with the pick we used for Butler. He has big raw potential and is great mates with Weightman.

 

[Dry Rot]

Lots of talk about Lipinski leaving for more opportunities, but what about West?

He seems to have fallen behind a number of players such as Garcia and McNeill.

What would West's manager be saying to him?

 

[weltschmerz]

Lots of talk about Lipinski leaving for more opportunities, but what about West?

He seems to have fallen behind a number of players such as Garcia and McNeill.

What would West's manager be saying to him?

If he wasn't a West he'd be gone, and with Scott getting upset on social media, I suspect he might be out. Less discussion than Lipinski because Lipinski's built up some decent form at AFL level and West is barely tried.

 

[House_of_Dahl]

Five trade targets for EVERY club: Western Bulldogs

With an already stacked squad, who could Luke Beveridge lure to Whitten Oval?

www.zerohanger.com

Neither Talia or Carlisle will be playing for us - too much bad blood

 

[Munnez]

That’s him. Nice size , moves well and a leftie, he had a couple of good wins in one on one contests against swans in last vfl game during last quarter.

He looks to be a very developable talent for a Key Defender role

 

[jdz101]

Lots of talk about Lipinski leaving for more opportunities, but what about West?

He seems to have fallen behind a number of players such as Garcia and McNeill.

What would West's manager be saying to him?

Maybe "think about looking for your teammates instead of trying to be a hero"

 

[Ai_City]

Not sure any of the ruckman on offer are any good. I think Timmy is pretty much ready with another off season in the gym and another pre season working with Steph/Kingy. He hasnt been an utter liability in the ruck this year I think his work has been far better than we expected. I cant think of anyone that I want from another team other than Mcevoy. The rest are garbage (Ceglar, Sinclair etc)

How many times have we heard that?
Tim is 24 years old this year; he's still losing the hit out count by a lot, and still getting massively outbodied by players like Tom Hickey and Rhys Stanley.
People need to accept that some players don't have the body or natural strength to play ruck at AFL level. Ayce Cordy was the same, even though he wasn't helped by injuries.
Tim was in career-best form earlier in the year playing as a roaming utility with Stefan Martin carrying the #1 ruck burden. Since English has become the #1 ruck, he's taking less contested marks and kicking less goals. Playing him in the ruck only bogs him down as a player, it's a role he's clearly not suited to.

Ruckmen in the current era should be strong and aggressive. This does not come to Tim naturally.

 

[dergert]

Lol, I thought Duman and Lienert were solid suggestions.
Instant upgrades on Cordy.

Kelly is a good medium defender option.

 

[Virgin Dog]

Maybe "think about looking for your teammates instead of trying to be a hero"

Preach. Kid has a lot of talent, but is easily the most selfish player we've had since Stringer. Tries to do way too much instead of playing the team game

 

[Virgin Dog]

Lol, I thought Duman and Lienert were solid suggestions.
Instant upgrades on Cordy.

Kelly is a good medium defender option.

I watch a lot of Freo games, and personally don't see much in Duman. I think he's about Cordy's equal at most. Though I wasn't a fan of the Crozier trade when it happened, and he improved out of sight with us, so who knows.

 

[Pannalstaroz]

I haven’t caught up with all the chat, but if there is a player in AFL better suited to us than Darcy Moore

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Darcy Moore

Age

28

Ht

203cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.1

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

169.1

3star

D

13.9

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

0.7

1star

MG

182.0

3star

D

6.8

2star

K

4.2

2star

HB

2.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

87.4

2star

, I’ll be staggered.

 

[Libbaaaa]

Duman is not a better footballer than Cordy.

 

[doggiesin08]

I haven’t caught up with all the chat, but if there is a player in AFL better suited to us than Darcy Moore, I’ll be staggered.

What combination 2022 1st rounder, Richards, Lipinski, etc. do you give up for him?

 

[mattwa]

What combination 2022 1st rounder, Richards, Lipinski, etc. do you give up for him?

All 3

 

[doggiesin08]

All 3

What about Jeremy Howe as a stop gap if he gets through the last month of the season unscathed? Only 190cm but could play the 2nd tall roll in our structure.

He’s 31 so no point staying on the pies list and they might be happy to clear the salary so won’t cost too much.

 

[Kermit]

What about Jeremy Howe as a stop gap if he gets through the last month of the season unscathed? Only 190cm but could play the 2nd tall roll in our structure.

He’s 31 so no point staying on the pies list and they might be happy to clear the salary so won’t cost too much.

Not for me - too big a risk, has been injured a lot over the last 2 seasons- body may just not be up to it anymore.

 

[Pugz89]

Surely Darcy Moore

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Darcy Moore

Age

28

Ht

203cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.1

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

169.1

3star

D

13.9

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

0.7

1star

MG

182.0

3star

D

6.8

2star

K

4.2

2star

HB

2.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

87.4

2star

is an untouchable for the Pies. Fans would burn down the joint if they traded Moore out the year after Treloar, Stephenson and Phillips left.

But, would be ideal, both for his qualities and age demographic.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

I think we can also rule out Leinert. The article suggests "He could be a ready-made solution should any Doggies defenders not perform." Meaning he is a VFL player. Don't need anymore of them.

Our defenders do the job nicely thank you. Grossly underrated. Funny how the media pick a theme and hang onto it like grim death. However, we could always use one more as long as they are top quality.

 

[Libbaaaa]

Our defenders not being able to stop one on one contests is true. It is also true for the majority of defenders who are left one on one. Every team uses some form of team defence that can be exploited if breakdowns occur.

If Aaron Naughton

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Aaron Naughton

Age

24

Ht

196cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

4.9

5star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.8

4star

D

6.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

2.3

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

0.8

1star

G

0.5

4star

D

12.8

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.0

1star

kicks 5 against Geelong it doesn’t suddenly mean the Cats defenders can’t stop anyone one on one.

 

[Mofra]

Not sure any of the ruckman on offer are any good. I think Timmy is pretty much ready with another off season in the gym and another pre season working with Steph/Kingy. He hasnt been an utter liability in the ruck this year I think his work has been far better than we expected. I cant think of anyone that I want from another team other than Mcevoy. The rest are garbage (Ceglar, Sinclair etc)

Either of Max Lynch or Ladhams would be playing for us now if on our list and available

 

[Libbaaaa]

Ladhams yes, not sure about Lynch. He has played less career games then Jordon Sweet and seems to be getting a tonne of buzz from the one game he broke even with Max Gawn

11

Max Gawn

Age

32

Ht

209cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.7

4star

CL

2.8

4star

HO

35.3

5star

D

18.5

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

7.0

4star

CL

3.5

4star

HO

29.2

5star

D

8.4

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

4.8

4star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

15.6

5star

earlier in the year.

 

[Smiley Boy]

Ladhams yes, not sure about Lynch. He has played less career games then Jordon Sweet and seems to be getting a tonne of buzz from the one game he broke even with Max Gawn earlier in the year.

As opposed to Sweet getting absolutely flogged by Gawn?

 

[doggy_dog]

As opposed to Sweet getting absolutely flogged by Gawn?

Point is it’s a very small sample size. Sweet was looking pretty promising up until the Gawn game too. Remember when he got those coaches votes and we started thinking our ruck issue was solved