Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 5 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[hatescaptcha]

Is Lobb on 1 million per year for another 4 years?

No, but still pick 30 is the right price imo.


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[Foxman98]

No, but still pick 30 is the right price imo.


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Correct but Freo aren't forcing him out so comparing him to Grundy is pointless

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Thank **** of that.

Now we can move on from peoples phantasies about getting Grundy to the dogs.

 

[dergert]

Gunston is the same age as Lobb and is a better player. He was traded for a future 4th.

 

[geoffjennings79]

So the Grundy to the Dogs narrative was just a smokescreen as we nail our real target in Pendlebury, eh Scrag?

What do we think, 4th rounder for Pendlebury, and they pay a portion of his salary?

 

[TiAn_]

Gunston is the same age as Lobb and is a better player. He was traded for a future 4th.

Gunston was an unrestricted FA that would have generated a 3rd Rd pick as compo, if not traded.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

The whole football world knew he was going to Melbourne, I'm not sure what point you've been trying to make. It's moot now anyway, as he is now at Melbourne.

People genuinely seem to think that these deals aren't done in advance and that players dont have any agency or dont really care about where they end up.

Once made public. All these deals are just a question of haggling over price and a bit of face saving posturing.

The amount of times that people state that a particular player like Grundy would be perfect for us and then constantly moan about why he isnt being linked to us. Just flies in the face of all reality.

 

[Foxman98]

Gunston is the same age as Lobb and is a better player. He was traded for a future 4th.

Gunston was also OOC and an UFA

 

[Dogsman16]

Geelong get pick 7 and Bowes for a future 3rd.

Sickening.

 

[Foxman98]

Geelong get pick 7 and Bowes for a future 3rd.

Sickening.

Will be at worst pick 50 odd too absolutely farcical

 

[doggies ftw]

I really hope mediation doesn’t occur for Dunks trade, I’d suggest it goes something like this - well Brissy offered F1 and you want 2x firsts so middle ground is 1st & 2nd etc. judging his value off the shit offer Brissy have put forward not what his real value is

Has a trade ever been to mediation? What is the process, do we have to accept what the AFL deems as fair? Surely not as that is very very subjective and someone will come off second best, most likely us up against their previous northern states ****

 

[dergert]

I really hope mediation doesn’t occur for Dunks trade, I’d suggest it goes something like this - well Brissy offered F1 and you want 2x firsts so middle ground is 1st & 2nd etc. judging his value off the s**t offer Brissy have put forward not what his real value is

Has a trade ever been to mediation? What is the process, do we have to accept what the AFL deems as fair? Surely not as that is very very subjective and someone will come off second best, most likely us up against their previous northern states ****

Paddy Ryder has when he switched from Essendon to Port Adelaide. The deal held everything up in true Dodoro fashion

 

[geoffjennings79]

Pick 7 is originally from Torquay, has been home-sick all year. Glad Cats could accommodate it, and get Bowes thrown in as well.

 

[Testekill]

Geelong get pick 7 and Bowes for a future 3rd.

Sickening.

Okay the AFL really needs to get involved with stuff like this, a future 3rd for Bowes would be fine if a bit unders but to get pick 7 on top is insane.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Somebody really needs to explain the benefits that the Bowes deal has to Gold Coast to me.

Please use simple words.

 

[Struggle]

Paddy Ryder has when he switched from Essendon to Port Adelaide. The deal held everything up in true Dodoro fashion

Oh that's right, disappointed power didn't pull the Dodo tactic of "he came 1st in our best and fairest so we will only accept 1st or 2nd place from yours"

 

[gangsta deluxe]

Okay the AFL really needs to get involved with stuff like this, a future 3rd for Bowes would be fine if a bit unders but to get pick 7 on top is insane.

More baffling is how the hell Geelong can handle the salary dump. I can only assume by agreed retirements.

 

[Graeme Cook]

What’s the development of Raak looking like? I haven’t paid close enough attention, I know he’s been moved forward at times but is he likely to break through or is it a bit unknown still?

Yes I've watched Cody in the magoos reads the play well down back and can play forward kicked 3goals 5 in a interclub game in February.

 

[gangsta deluxe]

Somebody really needs to explain the benefits that the Bowes deal has to Gold Coast to me.

Please use simple words.

Inflated salary gone. Cap busting avoided. Mistake painfully resolved.

 

[Dav1d]

Somebody really needs to explain the benefits that the Bowes deal has to Gold Coast to me.

Please use simple words.

They’re paying for pick 7 to take Jhye Clark most likely

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Salary gone. Mistake painfully resolved.

So. They front loaded his contract hugely and he isnt very good?

I dont watch much Gold Coast.

 

[Mofra]

Somebody really needs to explain the benefits that the Bowes deal has to Gold Coast to me.

Please use simple words.

Bowes' contract is heavily back ended and if they keep him they can't afford to sign both Rowell and Anderson in the next 12 months. Geelong are taking on his salary and getting pick 7 as a reward.

Ned Guy style, kicking the salary cap can down the road keeps biting clubs on the arse.

 

[gangsta deluxe]

I do laugh at people saying we are the losers of the period after this Bowes trade and the Grundy one…

 

[Foxman98]

So. They front loaded his contract hugely and he isnt very good?

I dont watch much Gold Coast.

Was due 1.6 million over the next 2 years

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Bowes' contract is heavily back ended and if they keep him they can't afford to sign both Rowell and Anderson in the next 12 months. Geelong are taking on his salary and getting pick 7 as a reward.

Ned Guy style, kicking the salary cap can down the road keeps biting clubs on the arse.

Is. He. Any. Good but?

I guess this is a consequence of being set up to fail as a feeder club in the same way that GWS gets pillaged year after year.

Its a death spiral that neither club will ever be able to escape from and its the same problem that will inevitably befall a Tasmanian side.