Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 5 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

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weltschmerz said:
Bergman and Flanders with some of our picks. Would sell the farm for Butters but Port won't let him go for love or money.
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Never sell the farm for just one player, it’s not worth it.
 
Obeanie1 said:
Please name the last time the Eagles shafted anyone at the trade table?

Yes the club is a bit of a basket case atm. The only hope we fans have now is that the club is one ofthe biggest, has a great stadium and training facilities, more cash than any other club and soon a mountain of cap space.

The AFL is setup for teams to bottom out and now it is our turn.

Focus on drafting as many top kids as possible and attract free agents in 2024 , 2025 and 2026 who will by then see what young talent has been drafted. Mids and flankers dont take as long as talls to impact. Target fringe role players using later picks.

Dogs have been up and contending for years. How many more years are left in this cycle at the top? 2....3.......4?
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You really coming onto our board to start the whole 'you'll be next to bottom out' type thing?

Tell you what, if my club had been spanked by 20 goals and basically witches hats against the bottom team and essentially the bye, I'd be keeping a low profile, I would probably just find a quiet corner.

Anyway...
 

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Dogs Rule said:
You really coming onto our board to start the whole 'you'll be next to bottom out' type thing?

Tell you what, if my club had been spanked by 20 goals and basically witches hats against the bottom team and essentially the bye, I'd be keeping a low profile, I would probably just find a quiet corner.

Anyway...
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We've somehow lured the most optimistic person on planet earth into this thread at the thought of Tim English coming for free through the pre season draft

Being a successful club over their history starts making them think they will automatically turn it around.

Sadly it doesnt work like that anymore not sure you realise how big a hole youre in.
 
Just a hypothetical and I say it with the preface my desire is to retain English long term, however..

If Sean Darcy was made available this year would it be within the realms of possibility to consider the following:

WC gain: Tim English, Brisbane 2nd Round pick
WC lose: 2023 First rounder, 2023 third rounder

WB gain: Sean Darcy, WC 2023 First rounder
WB lose: Tim English, WB 2023 first rounder, BL 2nd round pick

FR gain: WB First round pick, WC third round pick
FR lose: Sean Darcy
 
Dale4captain said:
Just a hypothetical and I say it with the preface my desire is to retain English long term, however..

If Sean Darcy was made available this year would it be within the realms of possibility to consider the following:

WC gain: Tim English, Brisbane 2nd Round pick
WC lose: 2023 First rounder, 2023 third rounder

WB gain: Sean Darcy, WC 2023 First rounder
WB lose: Tim English, WB 2023 first rounder, BL 2nd round pick

FR gain: WB First round pick, WC third round pick
FR lose: Sean Darcy
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Hard to swallow pills time: Tim English isn’t worth pick one. It’d cost us Tim and our first rounder.
 
ThePhreshOne said:
Hard to swallow pills time: Tim English isn’t worth pick one. It’d cost us Tim and our first rounder.
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I don’t completely disagree with you however I think he’s worth what the buyer is willing to pay. And I think if WC actually seriously wanted to take a bite, the ‘Dogs would be putting that first pick as the price or very least a large portion of the deal.

He’s probably the standout number 1 ruck in The comp for the foreseeable future, 5+ years. And he’s not much of a danger of falling off a cliff like Grundy either. And he’s still yet to hit his ceiling.

We’re going to pay him 1mil+ for the next 5. The Eagles might offer 1.4 over even longer than that to tempt him over there. Prices like that again make the eagles first pick creep closer to value imo.

Anyway, all hypothetical. God I hope Timmy stays. Love the man.
 
Dale4captain said:
Just a hypothetical and I say it with the preface my desire is to retain English long term, however..

If Sean Darcy was made available this year would it be within the realms of possibility to consider the following:

WC gain: Tim English, Brisbane 2nd Round pick
WC lose: 2023 First rounder, 2023 third rounder

WB gain: Sean Darcy, WC 2023 First rounder
WB lose: Tim English, WB 2023 first rounder, BL 2nd round pick

FR gain: WB First round pick, WC third round pick
FR lose: Sean Darcy
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Darcy would be getting close to the top of the pile for Non-Bevo style rucks... IMO. He's immobile and offers nothing outside the tap.
 
TedDougChris said:
Darcy would be getting close to the top of the pile for Non-Bevo style rucks... IMO. He's immobile and offers nothing outside the tap.
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Possibly but I think Darcy is more than just the lumberer that the public make him out to be. Averages a couple of contested marks a game, a bunch of clearances, a bunch of score involvements and obviously centre square dominance.

He’s a nice player but English definitely suits our game style better.
 
Dale4captain said:
Just a hypothetical and I say it with the preface my desire is to retain English long term, however..

If Sean Darcy was made available this year would it be within the realms of possibility to consider the following:

WC gain: Tim English, Brisbane 2nd Round pick
WC lose: 2023 First rounder, 2023 third rounder

WB gain: Sean Darcy, WC 2023 First rounder
WB lose: Tim English, WB 2023 first rounder, BL 2nd round pick

FR gain: WB First round pick, WC third round pick
FR lose: Sean Darcy
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Freo would laugh and hang up. English & Darcy would have similar trade value.
 

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Smiley Boy said:
Poulter was horrible yesterday im not sold on him at all prefer a mature ager
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I want Hansen Jr. I don’t think there’s any particularly bad holes in our list that desperately need addressing, so would rather go for someone with high upside. Otherwise we risk having yet another “great VFL player, dogshit at AFL level” on our list with low ceiling
 
Bulldogs85 said:
Can some please get pass the paywall and post the article be much appreciated.

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The AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft has given opportunities to a host of current players since being brought back in 2019.

Who could forget Richmond’s Marlion Pickett, who played in the 2019 premiership just months after joining the Tigers?
Essendon’s Sam Durham has become a regular since being taken in the 2021 mid-season draft, as has Collingwood’s John Noble (2019) and Hawthorn’s Jai Newcombe (2021).
Some more developing young players — as well as some ex-AFL players — are in the mix to earn their opportunities in this year’s draft on Wednesday.
Here are the 20 of the leading contenders to be snapped up.


Former Carlton and Melbourne defender Oscar McDonald is on the verge of reigniting his AFL career at a third club in next week’s mid-season rookie draft.

McDonald is expected to fill a hole in an injury-hit Sydney backline in the back half of the year after lodging a late draft nomination this week.
SCROLL DOWN FOR THE FULL NOMINATIONS LIST
The Swans have been decimated by injury among their key defenders this season, with McDonald shaping as a ready-made replacement after an impressive campaign for Williamstown in the VFL.
The 27-year-old was delisted by Carlton at the end of last season after spending the majority of the past two seasons on the sidelines with stress fractures in his back.
However, he has since got his body right and has played all eight games for Williamstown, averaging 16.8 disposals and 8.3 marks.
McDonald, who measures 196cm, has also rated elite in the VFL for intercept marks (4 a game) and above average for intercept possessions (8.9 a game).
Sydney defenders Paddy McCartin (concussion), Tom McCartin (concussion) and Dane Rampe (neck) are all currently on the sidelines, with uncertainty remaining around Paddy McCartin’s football future.


McDonald’s Williamstown teammate and former Melbourne defender Marty Hore has also attracted some late interest ahead of the mid-season draft, including from the Western Bulldogs and Greater Western Sydney.

Hore, 27, has been the leading intercept player in the VFL this year, averaging 5.6 intercept marks and 10.4 intercept possessions.

Former Sydney ruckman Sam Naismith is understood to have attracted interest from Geelong and is another player to have made a late draft nomination this week.

The 206cm big man has been the best performing ruckman in the VFL this year, averaging 15.1 disposals and 40.9 hitouts a game for Port Melbourne.

Naismith, who turns 31 in July, played 30 games across nine seasons for the Swans before being delisted at the end of last year.

Gippsland Power forward Ryan Maric is tipped to join West Coast, who hold the No.1 pick in next Wednesday’s draft.


The 193cm Maric has spoken to 10 clubs in the lead up to the draft after being a bolter this year following a four-goal haul in the opening round of the Coates Talent League.

Maric booted two goals in an eye-catching VFL debut for Box Hill last weekend and has trained with Hawthorn over the past week.

North Melbourne, which currently holds pick 2, is believed to have its eyes on 204cm Eastern Ranges ruckman-forward Clay Tucker, who is another player to have attracted plenty of interest from clubs.

Oakleigh Chargers tall forward Will Elliot, West Australian speedster Robert Hansen Jr, Calder Cannons halfback Rye Penny and Richmond VFL forward James Trezise are among other players who have caught the attention of a large number of clubs.

Recruiters expect about a dozen players to be selected next Wednesday, less than last year’s mid-season draft when 17 picks were used.
 
BulldogMuscle said:
The AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft has given opportunities to a host of current players since being brought back in 2019.

Who could forget Richmond’s Marlion Pickett, who played in the 2019 premiership just months after joining the Tigers?
Essendon’s Sam Durham has become a regular since being taken in the 2021 mid-season draft, as has Collingwood’s John Noble (2019) and Hawthorn’s Jai Newcombe (2021).
Some more developing young players — as well as some ex-AFL players — are in the mix to earn their opportunities in this year’s draft on Wednesday.
Here are the 20 of the leading contenders to be snapped up.


Former Carlton and Melbourne defender Oscar McDonald is on the verge of reigniting his AFL career at a third club in next week’s mid-season rookie draft.

McDonald is expected to fill a hole in an injury-hit Sydney backline in the back half of the year after lodging a late draft nomination this week.
SCROLL DOWN FOR THE FULL NOMINATIONS LIST
The Swans have been decimated by injury among their key defenders this season, with McDonald shaping as a ready-made replacement after an impressive campaign for Williamstown in the VFL.
The 27-year-old was delisted by Carlton at the end of last season after spending the majority of the past two seasons on the sidelines with stress fractures in his back.
However, he has since got his body right and has played all eight games for Williamstown, averaging 16.8 disposals and 8.3 marks.
McDonald, who measures 196cm, has also rated elite in the VFL for intercept marks (4 a game) and above average for intercept possessions (8.9 a game).
Sydney defenders Paddy McCartin (concussion), Tom McCartin (concussion) and Dane Rampe (neck) are all currently on the sidelines, with uncertainty remaining around Paddy McCartin’s football future.


McDonald’s Williamstown teammate and former Melbourne defender Marty Hore has also attracted some late interest ahead of the mid-season draft, including from the Western Bulldogs and Greater Western Sydney.

Hore, 27, has been the leading intercept player in the VFL this year, averaging 5.6 intercept marks and 10.4 intercept possessions.

Former Sydney ruckman Sam Naismith is understood to have attracted interest from Geelong and is another player to have made a late draft nomination this week.

The 206cm big man has been the best performing ruckman in the VFL this year, averaging 15.1 disposals and 40.9 hitouts a game for Port Melbourne.

Naismith, who turns 31 in July, played 30 games across nine seasons for the Swans before being delisted at the end of last year.

Gippsland Power forward Ryan Maric is tipped to join West Coast, who hold the No.1 pick in next Wednesday’s draft.


The 193cm Maric has spoken to 10 clubs in the lead up to the draft after being a bolter this year following a four-goal haul in the opening round of the Coates Talent League.

Maric booted two goals in an eye-catching VFL debut for Box Hill last weekend and has trained with Hawthorn over the past week.

North Melbourne, which currently holds pick 2, is believed to have its eyes on 204cm Eastern Ranges ruckman-forward Clay Tucker, who is another player to have attracted plenty of interest from clubs.

Oakleigh Chargers tall forward Will Elliot, West Australian speedster Robert Hansen Jr, Calder Cannons halfback Rye Penny and Richmond VFL forward James Trezise are among other players who have caught the attention of a large number of clubs.

Recruiters expect about a dozen players to be selected next Wednesday, less than last year’s mid-season draft when 17 picks were used.
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Thank you
 
Nat Fyfe said:
I want Hansen Jr. I don’t think there’s any particularly bad holes in our list that desperately need addressing, so would rather go for someone with high upside. Otherwise we risk having yet another “great VFL player, dogshit at AFL level” on our list with low ceiling
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Yep small forward or small lockdown defender will do i feel.. wouldnt be upset with any of Narkle, Hansen Jnr, Teal or Stanley
 
Nat Fyfe said:
I want Hansen Jr. I don’t think there’s any particularly bad holes in our list that desperately need addressing, so would rather go for someone with high upside. Otherwise we risk having yet another “great VFL player, dogshit at AFL level” on our list with low ceiling
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We desperately need an intercept marking defender, Marty Hore may be in the frame. Similar size to Doedee who we've flagged interest in
 
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