Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 6 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Claudonious]

Incorrect

What is correct then? I know he is definitely going, so why do you think this is so?


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[Claudonious]

I agree

So what you are implying then is that he has a great offer in front of him from the dogs and is not accepting it, and that it would be bad list management to up the offer in any way?

Fair enough.

All I know is that he is zero chance of being there next year.



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[bresker]

I'm surprised at other clubs offering a decent contract to a player still recovering from an ACL. Maybe medical & sports science has improved, but this probably wouldn't have happened 15 years ago. Has any other player signed such a deal coming off an ACL injury?

 

[Dale4captain]

We’ve offered Barrass an extra 2 years at ~700k a year. Ends up at his total contract being a feather over 3.5m.

He doesn’t want to leave WA at this point but wants financial security. Eagles told him last year that they’d add an extra year to his deal when he was being chased by the Swans however hasn’t come to fruition yet.

Eagles will sell him for assets if it helps their rebuild. Don Pike is a ruthless mofo.

 

[doggy_dog]

I’ll be disappointed if we’re lowballing Baz (in terms of length) to seemingly push him out, but reportedly putting 5yrs to English. I’d way sooner give Baz 5 and lowball Tim

 

[doggy_dog]

We’ve offered Barrass an extra 2 years at ~700k a year. Ends up at his total contract being a feather over 3.5m.

He doesn’t want to leave WA at this point but wants financial security. Eagles told him last year that they’d add an extra year to his deal when he was being chased by the Swans however hasn’t come to fruition yet.

Eagles will sell him for assets if it helps their rebuild. Don Pike is a ruthless mofo.

$700k is a pretty reasonable number in the scheme of things but geez I’d be nervous about an extra 2yrs with his back. We’d want to be damn sure he’s the missing piece

 

[Mofra]

I'm surprised at other clubs offering a decent contract to a player still recovering from an ACL. Maybe medical & sports science has improved, but this probably wouldn't have happened 15 years ago. Has any other player signed such a deal coming off an ACL injury?

Doedee last year?

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

Doedee last year?

Who still isn’t playing, big risk.

 

[ScottyDogg]

He’s more than happy at the dogs - it appears what they are offering is forcing him to have no choice but to leave.And it seems the dogs are not budging.


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Hey Claudonious you have said the above and then said he is”zero chance” of being at the club. I am a little confused by these assertions.

If the above is true (more than happy at Dogs) and the list management team change their minds in the next 3-4 months, then wouldn’t his chance of staying be pretty high?

I can think of a number of scenarios that would change our view on Baz’ value to the club.

The only situation where I could accept “zero chance” is if he has a god father offer from the Hawks/Geelong that we can’t realistically afford in any situation and Baz is unwilling to accept less to stay.

 

[ScottyDogg]

Sounds like everyone is being pretty responsible and reasonable in this situation.

Clubs with rebuilding lists like the Hawks/Geelong have to spend their salary cap and have heaps of coin to throw around, so they make attractive above market offers.

Baz has to consider a huge financial offer if it’s miles above what we can afford, especially coming off an acl.

And given we are in the window, we can’t afford to over pay for a player that we do not believe is irreplaceable and instead will put our cap into hard to acquire pieces like a KPD.

Would love for him to stay at the right price but makes sense if he doesn’t.

 

[adogsfan5]

The most sickening thing I’ve read this morning is that Josh Battles offer from the hawks might net the saints picks 4/5.

If salary caps are increasing - have they also re-jigged the free agency compensation method?

Because i find that staggering re Battle.

 

[Mojorisin]

The most sickening thing I’ve read this morning is that Josh Battles offer from the hawks might net the saints picks 4/5.

If salary caps are increasing - have they also re-jigged the free agency compensation method?

Because i find that staggering re Battle.

He has an offer of 5 years at 800k, last I was told that will still hit band one compensation as they're now taking contract length into consideration rather then just age and salary.

 

[StringyDog]

The most sickening thing I’ve read this morning is that Josh Battles offer from the hawks might net the saints picks 4/5.

If salary caps are increasing - have they also re-jigged the free agency compensation method?

Because i find that staggering re Battle.

Silvagni would be pushing him out the door as fast as he can if it looks like they get that, an honest battler for a top 5 pick, this is why people think free agency is broken

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Silvagni would be pushing him out the door as fast as he can if it looks like they get that, an honest battler for a top 5 pick, this is why people think free agency is broken

Just another way for the AFL to manipulate list management decisions.

 

[ScragCity]

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has toured Whitten Oval this morning

 

[DognBones]

Scott Pendlebury has toured Whitten Oval this morning

He's heard the coffee is good.

 

[BulldogMuscle]

Scott Pendlebury has toured Whitten Oval this morning

Is this before or after Garcia was spotted in Mexico drinking beer on the beach with Elle Macpherson?

 

[Claudonious]

Hey Claudonious you have said the above and then said he is”zero chance” of being at the club. I am a little confused by these assertions.

If the above is true (more than happy at Dogs) and the list management team change their minds in the next 3-4 months, then wouldn’t his chance of staying be pretty high?

I can think of a number of scenarios that would change our view on Baz’ value to the club.

The only situation where I could accept “zero chance” is if he has a god father offer from the Hawks/Geelong that we can’t realistically afford in any situation and Baz is unwilling to accept less to stay.

I suspect it is more than just contract terms.He is not going to be there next year.

 

[Bald]

Scott Pendlebury has toured Whitten Oval this morning

You never know with Scrag. He broke the Bramble stuff way before anyone else which eventuated.

Guess we'll have to see if Pendles is dropped tonight for proper confirmation.

 

[Mojorisin]

You never know with Scrag. He broke the Bramble stuff way before anyone else which eventuated.

Guess we'll have to see if Pendles is dropped tonight for proper confirmation.

I thought Pendles was going to seek a trade to the Chicago Bulls. It is a pretty well kept secret but he has got a basketball background.

 

[WAbulldog]

I thought Pendles was going to seek a trade to the Chicago Bulls. It is a pretty well kept secret but he has got a basketball background.

Wait Pendlebury has a basketball background!? I never knew; )

 

[Mofra]

The most sickening thing I’ve read this morning is that Josh Battles offer from the hawks might net the saints picks 4/5.

If salary caps are increasing - have they also re-jigged the free agency compensation method?

Because i find that staggering re Battle.

Remember when Corr took a $650k deal a few years back?
In current cap terms that's just shy of a million bucks.
The cap will be over 40% bigger in just three years (2022 to 2025).

$800k for a half-decent FA KPD is just the market rate considering there are so few around.

Makes the Liam Jones deal, and JOD as a Cat B pick, absolute gifts.

 

[ScottyDogg]

I suspect it is more than just contract terms.He is not going to be there next year.

So he isn’t more than happy at the Dogs? I still can’t marry up what you have written in seperate posts.

 

[ScragCity]

So he isn’t more than happy at the Dogs? I still can’t marry up what you have written in seperate posts.

He loves the Dogs but he loves money more. What's so hard to understand?

 

[Claudonious]

So he isn’t more than happy at the Dogs? I still can’t marry up what you have written in seperate posts.[/

I don’t know why he is leaving - all I know is he loves his team mates and he is GAWN gone.

I can’t elaborate any further as I do not want to compromise my source.


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