Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 6 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[VitalDread]

When it comes to Barrass for me

Our list is stacked, it's a legit top 4 side

Giving up say late first-rounders for him is a big win for me

He secures a role that we haven't had in a very long time, Jones, JOD, Lobb and Buku will be stronger with a Legit 1v1 Key Defender

Our salary cap is great, so bringing on Barrass at good coin won't impact any future deals

Our medical team is really good so i don't have any issues with any current or pass injuries

 

[Unorth]

if we won a flag within 2-3 of 5 seasons of Barrass and carry him through injuries the last 2-3 seasons would it be considered worthwhile?

 

[Dogsfan1]

Ummm

 

[Dogsman16]

Much prefer Houston over Barass.

Key defensive stocks both short and long term in a really healthy place.

 

[Doggy]

if we won a flag within 2-3 of 5 seasons of Barrass and carry him through injuries the last 2-3 seasons would it be considered worthwhile?

Was Tom Boyd worth it

 

[Mojorisin]

if we won a flag within 2-3 of 5 seasons of Barrass and carry him through injuries the last 2-3 seasons would it be considered worthwhile?

A flag would definitely make it worthwhile just like it did with Tom Boyd.
I think we are a quality Inside/outside Mid and Small forward away not a key defender away.
However to my mind it would have to be seen internally that he is a missing peice and if we do have to cop a year or two of salary if he is finished in 3 years then that is the price to pay to compete for the next 3 years.

 

[Sentinel]

Saw a few clips of Barrass from a recent podcast he did. He's got quite a philosophical mind so can see Bevo wanting to be all chips in for his character alone.

 

[Golden_6]

It seems like unders, but if we can get a decent second round pick for Caleb we probably need to take it, for ours and his benefit.

I’d be less inclined to let Jack go as he’s actually playing every week. But the same applies.

If we can also get a first and second (theirs is currently 33) from Geelong for Bailey then that would give us a first and four second round picks. There’s plenty we could do with that.

I don’t see how Caleb nets us anything decent.

A 28 year old not in our best 22 on a sizeable contract will be nothing more than a late pick. Hunter like.

The value is in the extra salary cap space and doing the right thing by Daniel.

 

[weltschmerz]

The Bulldogs would be unlikely to keep Daniel, 28, and Jack Macrae next year if they remain locked in the VFL team on decent salaries.

Macrae has played one VFL game and 16 AFL games this year.

 

[Mojorisin]

Macrae has played one VFL game and 16 AFL games this year.

Don't let truth get in the way of a good story.

 

[maddog37]

Houston worth two first round picks but Bailey Smuth only worth a late first from the Cats. Seems fair.

 

[Doggy]

Houston worth two first round picks but Bailey Smuth only worth a late first from the Cats. Seems fair.

Houston is contracted

 

[Golden_6]

Houston worth two first round picks but Bailey Smuth only worth a late first from the Cats. Seems fair.

They aren't remotely comparable though.

One is under contract long term and a current All Australian who is replicating that form.

The other is out of contract, coming off an ACL with a variety of off-field issues with no recent form.

 

[Mojorisin]

How old was lobb when we traded for him? And how many years did he have on his contract? He was also there leading goal scored that year wasn't he?

 

[Bulldogs85]

How old was lobb when we traded for him? And how many years did he have on his contract? He was also there leading goal scored that year wasn't he?

29 years old , had one year left on his contract and yes he was their leading goal kicker that year

 

[dogwatch]

We probably would, I cannot see a scenario though where Baz would put his hand up and risk the next deal he alreasdy has in place, and I wouldn't expect him to.

Sends a pretty poor message to the bloke whose place he takes in the GF too. If you knew for sure he was the difference between winning the GF and losing it you'd do it for sure. But after a year out he could be very rusty, deliver less than the bloke he replaces and in doing so we'd alienate one of our up and comers like Sanders or Garcia.

 

[Mojorisin]

29 years old , had one year left on his contract and yes he was their leading goal kicker that year

So he was 4 months older then Barras will be, coming off his best ever season where he finished top 10 in the club's B and F, was their leading goal scorer whilst also being contracted.
What did we give up for him at the time and did he have any known debilitating injuries?

 

[Doggy]

So he was 4 months older then Barras will be, coming off his best ever season where he finished top 10 in the club's B and F, was their leading goal scorer whilst also being contracted.
What did we give up for him at the time and did he have any known debilitating injuries?

2 x second rounders. Had an ankle injury that he carried into the next year

 

[mattwa]

If you can get a 2nd for CD you'd probably take it if he wanted to go. I'd be inclined to keep Macrae around for sure as there is no reason to get rid of him for the sake of it unless the offer was way overs (mid 1st).

I'm not paying overs for Barrass but if the offer is fair I'd do it but if it's not then you walk away. Would rather give lobb a crack and use the Smith comp for a mid. Would also prefer Tim to sign

 

[adogsfan5]

Ummm

I checked the other day and it was just Naughton.. could just be to add pressure on the eagles..

 

[glenashley]

Jones didn’t have nearly the injury history, I suspect his salary is a lot lower, and he was free as compared to a 1R pick.

You can also look at Alex Keath (1 year younger than Keath) to see how quickly it can turn at that age for others. Keath was 6th in our B&F in a grand final year where a lot of us would have had him behind only Bont and maybe Naughton for importance and was cooked less than 12 months later.

True.

The cliff can come at you pretty fast at that age.

 

[Mojorisin]

2 x second rounders. Had an ankle injury that he carried into the next year

They were a bit cheeky and didn't disclose the ankle injury at the time.

 

[Mojorisin]

If you can get a 2nd for CD you'd probably take it if he wanted to go. I'd be inclined to keep Macrae around for sure as there is no reason to get rid of him for the sake of it unless the offer was way overs (mid 1st).

I'm not paying overs for Barrass but if the offer is fair I'd do it but if it's not then you walk away. Would rather give lobb a crack and use the Smith comp for a mid. Would also prefer Tim to sign

You'd be lucky to get one second round pick for Macrae and a third round pick for Daniel. I wouldn't be shopping them around but if they wanted to leave for more game time I'd happily facilitate it given the contribution they've made to the club.

 

[mattwa]

You'd be lucky to get one second round pick for Macrae and a third round pick for Daniel. I wouldn't be shopping them around but if they wanted to leave for more game time I'd happily facilitate it given the contribution they've made to the club.

Given Macrae had played most games I doubt he leaves. CD has every right to explore options

 

[Mojorisin]

Given Macrae had played most games I doubt he leaves. CD has every right to explore options

If macrea is happy playing his current role I'd definitely prefer to retain him.