Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 6 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[dogwatch]

Where will treloar play when all three of Bont, Petracca and Butters are in the midfield?

Ruck.

 

[Lex22]

Prediction: Timid Timmy turns into Tenacious Timmy in 2025. (Well, I can dream, can't I?)

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Yep.

Expect Timmy to roll up first day of pre-season tanned and with a most shaven head. Add to that a menacing neck tattoo.

At least look like a campaigner if he can’t play like one.

 

[Bald]

A lot of love for recruits but the one for me is Barry Hall. It was short, but by golly 135 goals in 39 games is an absurdity, even by 2010/11 standards.

And do you remember how good it looked having him in the forward line? There was just a confidence.

 

[Dogs Rule]

I'd give my left nut to see Butters at the dogs. One of my favourite players to watch. Him and the bont together would be untouchable.

Just the one? I reckon there would be a few of us that would give both.

 

[Mojorisin]

A lot of love for recruits but the one for me is Barry Hall. It was short, but by golly 135 goals in 39 games is an absurdity, even by 2010/11 standards.

And do you remember how good it looked having him in the forward line? There was just a confidence.

That pre season was some of the most enjoyable football I had seen up until that point, shame we couldn't quite get it together in the season proper.

 

[weltschmerz]

Surely we can get Petracca. Can you imagine him and bont. If he wants success we would be flag favourites with him

why "surely"?

 

[Dogs Rule]

It makes perfect sense from the destination club's point of view. They want the opposition's best players but they don't want to give them any assets in return that would make the player's original club any stronger. So it has gradually become a game of the list manager shrugging his shoulders and saying "well he nominated us but what can we do? we had already made arrangements to on-trade all our top draft picks [LOL] so there's not much we can offer you. How about a couple of future seconds?"

Clubs will naturally try it on every time. Baz probably doesn't give a shit about us. He's just telling his destination club to get it done, don't care how.

The clubs and the AFL may be a bit scared of the AFLPA but at some point some club has to stand up to the nominated clubs every year pulling this sort of shitty trick. And say "no deal, no trade". A bit like we did with Dunks and Dodoro.

I'd love to see it come to that sort of impasse, especially as Baz doesn't seem to give a shit about us. Otherwise it's just going to get worse every year.

Spot on. We don't owe Smith anything. Our only obligation is to get the very best deal for the club, couldn't care less about anything else.

 

[LittleG]

Butters, Petracca, Barrass & Houston.

Land one of them and I will be really impressed with our recruiting team. Bergman would be the consolation but would still improve us.

We have the cap space and I hope have the will.

 

[Lex22]

A lot of love for recruits but the one for me is Barry Hall. It was short, but by golly 135 goals in 39 games is an absurdity, even by 2010/11 standards.

And do you remember how good it looked having him in the forward line? There was just a confidence.

Retired too early also imo.

Playing arguably his best footy at the end.

Maybe if we were contending, he’d have pushed on, but Baz still had a year or two in him irrespective.

If only he’d come a year earlier…

 

[Dogs 13]

I'd give my left nut to see Butters at the dogs. One of my favourite players to watch. Him and the bont together would be untouchable.

You’d still have the right one and the middle one left

 

[Bald]

Retired too early also imo.

Playing arguably his best footy at the end.

Maybe if we were contending, he’d have pushed on, but Baz still had a year or two in him irrespective.

If only he’d come a year earlier…

Far too early.

Bro announced he was retiring in July, then went and kicked 40 goals from his 8 remaining games.

 

[Dog 36]

Yeah he was great for us , but the others might have him covered for ability.

Richard Osborne anyone ?

Another from Fitzroy I think who was absolutely awesome Peter Foster

 

[JohnnySteel]

Looks like we won’t be seeing Buss this year in the seniors but he’ll be basically a new recruit for 2025 with another preseason and full year of development.


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[Optimistic Dog]

Looks like we won’t be seeing Buss this year in the seniors but he’ll be basically a new recruit for 2025 with another preseason and full year of development.


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Jordan Croft will also be basically a new recruit and the round 1 pick we get for Bailey Smith. That is 3 first rounders to debut next season.

 

[go_sports_team]

You’d still have the right one and the middle one left

Didn't realise my doctor was on here! Hey mate!

 

[Dry Rot]

I'd love to see it come to that sort of impasse, especially as Baz doesn't seem to give a shit about us. Otherwise it's just going to get worse every year.

Agreed.

Baz would look good in yellow and black next year.

 

[PurpJuice]

You'd stick Butters in a back pocket?

Thought it was the Bergman article

 

[Fossie 32]

Another from Fitzroy I think who was absolutely awesome Peter Foster

 

[FROGGR]

A lot of love for recruits but the one for me is Barry Hall. It was short, but by golly 135 goals in 39 games is an absurdity, even by 2010/11 standards.

And do you remember how good it looked having him in the forward line? There was just a confidence.

After he retired he made a statement about wanting to be remembered as dogs player. That was pretty good...

 

[Bald]

After he retired he made a statement about wanting to be remembered as dogs player. That was pretty good...

I actually read his autobiography many many years ago, from memory he was a Dogs supporter growing up.

 

[BIG_BONTS]

Would rather BBB over any of our current forwards. Feed the big man

 

[Dogsman16]

Just my view but I would have gone a different direction with our ruck stocks.

Our midfield are allowed a really bad day (and I reckon that happens once every 5-6 weeks per season) but we don’t have the ruckman who can stop the ascendency. He’s not the man to change the momentum and get the ball in our mids favour to wrestle back control.

The numbers don’t lie. Despite the names we have had roll through the middle in the past 5 years we are currently the worst first possession team in the game. We win it back by being really good at stripping the ball back. I don’t think that’s sustainable.

Our midfield getting crushed often means our aggressively placed defenders get exposed (we have all seen this far too often). And I’m yet to see a performance where our mids were crushed despite English being really competitive in the ruck. They always both happen at the same time.

Maybe this could work if Darcy fills out and he shoulders 50% of the load. That’s the only way I see it “premiership successful”

 

[dergert]

Come on dogs... Let's get Joe Richards.
Instant upgrade on VDM and whatever other small forwards we have in the VFL.

 

[geoffjennings79]

Imagine Saints supporters if we ran out against them next year fielding Bont, Naughton AND Petracca...

Won't someone think of the draft picks!

 

[Mojorisin]

Come on dogs... Let's get Joe Richards.
Instant upgrade on VDM and whatever other small forwards we have in the VFL.

What do you think he would cost? He has a few suitors.