Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 6 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[threenewpadlocks]

Wouldn't say that. Artie played a higher role, more akin to VDM and Mc Neil in the seniors

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Isn't this more the last handful of games and Artie was more of a close to goal small earlier in the year?

 

[Martyn_30_]

The only reason to keep Clarke would be to protect the egos of the recruiting team who used a decent pick on a small forward without any speed two years ago. It would be a classic case of the sunk cost fallacy.


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[lachy]

Isn't this more the last handful of games and Artie was more of a close to goal small earlier in the year?

For at least the last 12 or so rounds

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[Martyn_30_]

He isn’t slow. He was one of the fastest in his draft and definitely hits high speed at time. I think in second half of the year he has either carried and injury or he is second guessing himself, also lacking confidence.

He wasn’t top ten for either the sprint or agility tests.


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[dergert]

The only reason to keep Clarke would be to protect the egos of the recruiting team who used a decent pick on a small forward without any speed two years ago. It would be a classic case of the sunk cost fallacy.


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The draft was shit house.
Very few players after Clarke (and before in the same round) have kicked on.
Konstanty was rated higher and has been a bust so far.
Bobby Hill was average before he went to Collingwood and went bang. Toby Bedford is another.
They take time.

 

[doggy_dog]

Have I missed something with all the Cleary hate and wanting to delist/pay out as he has a contract?

He’s been solid in the VFL, he has always performed when called upon to play AFL.

Is he a starter in our best team? No

Is he a liability when called on at AFL level? No

Is he decent depth that can be relied upon for a game now and then? Yes

You can’t have 40 best 23 players you need depth and role players on minimum money contracts.

Have to agree to disagree that he’s performed when called upon at AFL level. He’s still not even close to strong enough 1on1 and at this point I have doubts he ever will be

 

[True Dog]

He was hideous yesterday

You're being too kind... I didn't recognise him he was that bad (and I like him)

 

[Libbaaaa]

The draft was shit house.
Very few players after Clarke (and before in the same round) have kicked on.
Konstanty was rated higher and has been a bust so far.
Bobby Hill was average before he went to Collingwood and went bang. Toby Bedford is another.
They take time.

Hill and Bedford always had speed at least, something you can’t teach.

 

[dergert]

Hill and Bedford always had speed at least, something you can’t teach.

Wasn't Clarke one of the fastest in the draft class as per a poster earlier today?

 

[DiamondDogs8]

Wasn't Clarke one of the fastest in the draft class as per a poster earlier today?

He wasn’t top ten for either the sprint or agility tests.


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Unsure who to believe without diving into the stats

 

[Mojorisin]

Wasn't Clarke one of the fastest in the draft class as per a poster earlier today?

He wasn't top 10 for any testing at the combine testing but speed is listed as a strength on his rookie.me profile

 

[Mojorisin]

Agility

1 7.702Darcy Jones
2 8.182Jaxon Binns
3 8.217Elijah Hewett
4 8.247Steely Green
5 8.255Edward Allan
6 8.267Luke Teal
7 8.285Toby McMullin
8 8.292Jacob Konstanty
9 8.325Harry Rowston
10 8.343Noah Long

20m Sprint Result (seconds)

1 2.814Edward Allan
2 2.880Toby McMullin
3 2.883Coby Burgiel
4 2.910James Van Es
5 2.912Darcy Jones
6 2.924Olli Hotton
7 2.928Reuben Ginbey
8 2.928Cooper Vickery
9 2.937Josh Weddle
10 2.951Lloyd Johnston

2-km time Trial Test
Glenelg's Lachlan Scannell recorded a time of 5:49 atthe SA state combine.

=1 5:54Oliver Hollands
=1 5:54Jason Gillbee
3 6:00Jaxon Binns
4 6:03Josh Weddle
5 6:15Reuben Ginbey
6 6:16Jakob Ryan
7 6:17Steely Green
8 6:21Will Dowling
=9 6:25Blake Drury
=9 6:25Seth Campbell
=9 6:25Mattaes Phillipou

A few small forwards in the top 10s though for varying success.

 

[yebach]

Question for those who have watched the Suns.

Could Lukosius play on the wing?

 

[Mojorisin]

Question for those who have watched the Suns.

Could Lukosius play on the wing?

He has played half back, wing and forward. The issue is he is very outside and uncontested. He is a beautiful kick of the footy though. Imagine schache with more skills.

 

[dergert]

Saints targetting Zach Merrett

 

[RWnBluey]

Saints targetting Zach Merrett

Surely Merrett only leaves Essendon for success. Why go from one basket case to another?

 

[PocketRocket08]

The draft was shit house.
Very few players after Clarke (and before in the same round) have kicked on.
Konstanty was rated higher and has been a bust so far.
Bobby Hill was average before he went to Collingwood and went bang. Toby Bedford is another.
They take time.

Smartest post on any bulldogs thread. Most small fwds take time. It’s the toughest position. Even more so at vfl level.
Kozzy picket Cyril are the two than leaked early and I believe Watson will also. Stephen Milne was delisted by Essendon before becoming an elite small fwd and kicking over 500 goals for saints. Even look at McNeil. He is 23 and finally starting to come good.
Just a little patience with the young boys especially those small fwds.

 

[PocketRocket08]

Agility

1 7.702Darcy Jones
2 8.182Jaxon Binns
3 8.217Elijah Hewett
4 8.247Steely Green
5 8.255Edward Allan
6 8.267Luke Teal
7 8.285Toby McMullin
8 8.292Jacob Konstanty
9 8.325Harry Rowston
10 8.343Noah Long

20m Sprint Result (seconds)

1 2.814Edward Allan
2 2.880Toby McMullin
3 2.883Coby Burgiel
4 2.910James Van Es
5 2.912Darcy Jones
6 2.924Olli Hotton
7 2.928Reuben Ginbey
8 2.928Cooper Vickery
9 2.937Josh Weddle
10 2.951Lloyd Johnston

2-km time Trial Test
Glenelg's Lachlan Scannell recorded a time of 5:49 atthe SA state combine.

=1 5:54Oliver Hollands
=1 5:54Jason Gillbee
3 6:00Jaxon Binns
4 6:03Josh Weddle
5 6:15Reuben Ginbey
6 6:16Jakob Ryan
7 6:17Steely Green
8 6:21Will Dowling
=9 6:25Blake Drury
=9 6:25Seth Campbell
=9 6:25Mattaes Phillipou

A few small forwards in the top 10s though for varying success.

I believe he didn’t attend combine. Could be wrong though. I mean didn’t do the testing.

 

[PocketRocket08]

Surely Merrett only leaves Essendon for success. Why go from one basket case to another?

Can’t see how it happens.
Surely a Captain doesn’t walk out.

 

[Optimistic Dog]

Can’t see how it happens.
Surely a Captain doesn’t walk out.

Ryan Griffen?

 

[Bulldogs85]

Ryan Griffen?

Leigh Colbert is another one

 

[Scott Tracy]

Leigh Colbert is another one

Tom Lynch, Steven May

 

[Dogs Rule]

Can’t see how it happens.
Surely a Captain doesn’t walk out.

Zak Butters...

Close enough

 

[goodcop badcop]

I believe he didn’t attend combine. Could be wrong though. I mean didn’t do the testing.

He did and his results were average. 3.10 over 20m and average agility. I thought his speed was fine from watching him play live though especially when he would hit top speed he did actually look quick.

My thinking with Clarke at the time he was drafted was he had to get his fitness levels up and push high up the ground and then quickly push back. Given his top end speed, he was more suited to that. The problem is his skills and composure aren't up to scratch and I can't see them ever being good enough myself.

 

[Doggies_13]

Reading through the fox footy breakdown of each teams trade rumours is quite depressing. All the teams around us targeting best 23 players to improve and minimising what they lose.

Our rumours are all outs apart from that we were into Barrass and a hypothetical would we look a Tomlinson (god no).

It seems us, Richmond, Melbourne, Essendon and GWS are going to stand still or go backwards while everyone else gets stronger.