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List Mgmt. Trade/Draft/Targets rumours 2019
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Dahlhaus was rated as the same compensation on a 4 year $2 million deal, which again flies in the face of their stated guidelines of age & length/value of contract.
At the end of the day, we've asked the question of the AFL to justify the decision and we'll no doubt accept it and move on, but will be watching on with the next round free agent compo being handed out when/if Elliott and Tomlinson move
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We all know Ellis is worth about pick 34
If he was a richmond man he wouldnt consider a trade. The fact that lynch probably came to richmond for less money than what other clubs were offering and won a premiership medal says a lot about wether a player chooses a destination club for just the $$$ or other factors.if you are a richmond man brandon you will knock it back and force a trade
The deal is done and its pointless as to what we consider fair (i actually have no idea if the compo was fair as i dont know how its calculated) so lets move forward and aim for back to back.
PS - if pickett turns out to be the gun he appears to be and gets another premiership medal the odds are the mid season draft will be scrapped as we broke that as well.
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The AFL lost and this is their redemption.
We have bigger fish to fry than the AFL.
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Not the least bit surprised in the end. Will add that what you think of Ellis as a player or what you think he would be worth on the open market means absolutely nothing going off the AFL’s “rules”. Given precedent of recent deals, with multiple (ie Motlop) getting Band 2 compensation for significantly smaller deals, anything less than that for Ellis given the deal he signed is a joke. Gale all but spells out in his tweet that the AFL have altered their “calculation” this season to ensure we now fall just short of Band 2.
I’d be angry if it was in anyway surprising, they are comically unprofessional at times. Say what you want about FA but we shouldn’t be punished for simply utilising their own shit system. 3 picks in the late 30s could make draft night and live trading very interesting, still a pretty strong holding regardless.
I’d be angry if it was in anyway surprising, they are comically unprofessional at times. Say what you want about FA but we shouldn’t be punished for simply utilising their own shit system. 3 picks in the late 30s could make draft night and live trading very interesting, still a pretty strong holding regardless.
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The AFL confirmed what I said, he came in at the top of the band. Your paranoia would be admired on the conspiracy board (if you throw in Soros and contrails)
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We're very disappointed in pick 39. Can you please explain why we don't get a band 1 or band 2 compensation pick?
We have a very complicated formula that calculates the points which told us that Brandon is worth a second round pick.
I demand to see the formula
OK but only if you promise to tell no one and preserve my legacy by not bringing to light all the dodgy shit you discover when you eventually take over
Fine
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That's not the point. It's all about the precedence
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AFL’s free agency compensation under fire after Richmond received end of second round pick for Brandon Ellis
The AFL’s free agency compensation is under scrutiny again after Richmond was given an end of second round draft pick for losing Brandon Ellis on a deal very similar to moves in previous years. So what’s the difference?
Disappointed Richmond officials requested the AFL review the free agency compensation it received for the loss of Brandon Ellis as the league’s formula for awarding draft picks for the loss of free agents comes under fire again.
The Tigers were handed an end of second round pick for Ellis, currently No.39, after he officially joined Gold Coast on Saturday.
As revealed by the Herald Sun, Ellis has accepted a five-year, $3 million deal to join the Suns.
It was a contract the Tigers had hoped would net them an end of first round compensation selection, which would have been pick 20 given Richmond’s premiership status and the Suns’ freshly awarded priority pick.
Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale revealed the Tigers were so unhappy with the compensation, the club urged the AFL to review it.
“We were very dissapointed with the offer of a 2nd Rd pick for Brandon Ellis and asked the AFL to review it. AFL has since explained that the points allocated (based on age & average $$$), fell just short of the points required for the awarding of a 1st Rd pick in 2019,” Gale tweeted.
The AFL has refused to explain its compensation “formula”, which is said to be based on age, salary and contract length, but can be altered at the discretion of a committee.
The Ellis pick has many scratching their heads given recent cases at other clubs.
West Coast last year got an end of first round compensation pick for losing Scott Lycett to Port Adelaide on a deal widely reported to be exactly the same — $3 million over five years.
Like Richmond, the Eagles were premiers. Like Ellis, Lycett was 26. Yet there is 19 draft picks difference.
Steven Motlop signed on for less at Port Adelaide when he left Geelong at the end of 2017.
Motlop accepted a four-year deal worth around $2 million, leading to a belief the Cats would get an end of second round pick (No.35) to compensate.
When pick 19 came back there was surprise. When the Cats used pick 19 to bring Gary Ablett home there was cynicism.
Former Adelaide onballer Cam Ellis-Yolman on Saturday finalised a three-year free agency contract offer from the Brisbane Lions.
The Crows received a third-round pick — No. 47 — as compensation after choosing not to match the deal.
Brisbane might not be done there, with Collingwood forward Jamie Elliott attending the Pies’ best and fairest on Friday night before touring the Lions’ facilities the next day.
The AFL’s free agency compensation is under scrutiny again after Richmond was given an end of second round draft pick for losing Brandon Ellis on a deal very similar to moves in previous years. So what’s the difference?
Disappointed Richmond officials requested the AFL review the free agency compensation it received for the loss of Brandon Ellis as the league’s formula for awarding draft picks for the loss of free agents comes under fire again.
The Tigers were handed an end of second round pick for Ellis, currently No.39, after he officially joined Gold Coast on Saturday.
As revealed by the Herald Sun, Ellis has accepted a five-year, $3 million deal to join the Suns.
It was a contract the Tigers had hoped would net them an end of first round compensation selection, which would have been pick 20 given Richmond’s premiership status and the Suns’ freshly awarded priority pick.
Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale revealed the Tigers were so unhappy with the compensation, the club urged the AFL to review it.
“We were very dissapointed with the offer of a 2nd Rd pick for Brandon Ellis and asked the AFL to review it. AFL has since explained that the points allocated (based on age & average $$$), fell just short of the points required for the awarding of a 1st Rd pick in 2019,” Gale tweeted.
The AFL has refused to explain its compensation “formula”, which is said to be based on age, salary and contract length, but can be altered at the discretion of a committee.
The Ellis pick has many scratching their heads given recent cases at other clubs.
West Coast last year got an end of first round compensation pick for losing Scott Lycett to Port Adelaide on a deal widely reported to be exactly the same — $3 million over five years.
Like Richmond, the Eagles were premiers. Like Ellis, Lycett was 26. Yet there is 19 draft picks difference.
Steven Motlop signed on for less at Port Adelaide when he left Geelong at the end of 2017.
Motlop accepted a four-year deal worth around $2 million, leading to a belief the Cats would get an end of second round pick (No.35) to compensate.
When pick 19 came back there was surprise. When the Cats used pick 19 to bring Gary Ablett home there was cynicism.
Former Adelaide onballer Cam Ellis-Yolman on Saturday finalised a three-year free agency contract offer from the Brisbane Lions.
The Crows received a third-round pick — No. 47 — as compensation after choosing not to match the deal.
Brisbane might not be done there, with Collingwood forward Jamie Elliott attending the Pies’ best and fairest on Friday night before touring the Lions’ facilities the next day.
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Just caught up with a shitload of Tiger talk from all the papers from the last week, and the bit i missed, and not sure if its been mentioned here, but apparently Kmac wants out. Was extremely hurt at missing out on two flags and even though he re-signed last July wants to explore options.
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he can suck it up and fight for his place
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Missing pick #40
Nope. Our recruiting team is mint now , they will find a gun still there !
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I think the tribunal handed down the compo verdict
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No paranoia here, just disappointment that the AFL has once again manipulated it's compensation formula to come to a decision that quietens the outrage from the vocal minority who couldn't accept a 5 year $3m deal is worth a band 2 compo pick every other time it has been offered.
Didn’t work with the 6 6 6 , pick 39 will still win some sort of medal with us !
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Assuming the base rates are identical, and as groc pointed out, the ranking in player payments remains unchanged even with the increase in cap
But not paranoid, it's the AFL out to get us right?
Nah it’s just one of the many other unprofessional, inconsistent, corrupt boys club organisations that gets a lot of media
let’s not be too soft on all the other campaigners out there running filthy corporations and organisations in Aus!!
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Who here has said the AFL is out to get us? All I've read is people pointing the constant inconsistencies in AFL house decision making. And you, just like us are basing our information given to us through the media. And all information points to, including our club obviously thinking the pick given is not in line to previous picks given to other clubs.
And instead of passively attacking posters opinion how about link some of the articles you've read that so we may be as enlightened on this subject as you are.
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It’s true.
Not even an amateur management of the game. Just total bias, corruption and incompetence at every turn.
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