Setterfield has yet to show anything at AFL level. Like at all. Averages 9 touches from 2 games and has struggled to stay on the park over the last 3 years.
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Around 6 years actually. He is perpetually injured.
One player has stayed mostly injury free in what was one of the worst midfields in the comp the last few years the other was fighting for a spot in one of the strongest midfields in the comp and before he could get a run this year he does an ACL.
Setterfield would be worth more than Parish because he has more potential and he is a year younger. On talent Setterfield is on par with McGrath it’s just unlucky that he did his ACL.
I like to think that all of Francis, Parish, McGarth, Langford and to a lesser extent Guelfi are in the same category for our younger generation of players.
And that’s the category that says says ‘not for trade’.
And that’s the category that says says ‘not for trade’.
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I love the annual trade all our young players who haven't won a brownlow yet.
Especially when it's for another young, injury prone player.
Especially when it's for another young, injury prone player.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one then.
I think injury history does come into it when considering worth as well. Eg. Ahern pick 7 - two years later traded for pick 69. Obviously his injury was worse as he had 2 ACLs and was probably further discounted by the fact GWS were culling their list but not quite to that degree. I'm also not suggesting Setterfield is worth pick 69.
You can, I suppose bring up the deal for O'Meara wherein Hawks still traded pick 10 and a future 2nd for him despite his injury issues. However he was rated as potentially "the best mid ever" before his injuries and Gold Coast were seen as being unreasonable in their demands for him by the general public.
Meanwhile as you say Parish has had minimal injury issues. He's also played very consistently from day 1. I think he still has the potential to become a much improved player each year over the next 3 years. In fact with Setterfield's injury history, I would say Parish has a greater likelihood of achieving that potential than Setterfield does.
However if Setterfield does want to come to Essendon I would be very happy with this. But I don't think we need to involve Parish (or any other young gun) in the deal and I don't think it would be worth it to do so.
Apologies I get a bit riled when someone suggests we offload Parish. Like why.
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Setterfield would be a similar situation to Francis if he wanted out. High draft pick, highly rated but injuries and other shit have prevented him from getting anywhere near his full potential in the time he has had at the club. Francis would probably be worth a second or third round pick if he asked to be traded (we'd ask for a first round pick but no one would give that up), I think that is roughly what Setterfield would be traded for too.
Yeah I get where your coming from, I’m
Not suggesting we trade him either I just personally rate Setterfield as a better prospect. Parish is also a contracted player and I doubt he would want to leave in the first place.
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https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...o/news-story/c6798872b1c8cfbc62deeed88e0f0e3b
Article gives a good insight at the end about Essendon's trade plans. Suggests we aren't into Gaff and that we are pursuing Mitch Wallis and Will Setterfield. Also says that we are in on going talks with signing Laverde for him to join the midfield unit next season.
Article gives a good insight at the end about Essendon's trade plans. Suggests we aren't into Gaff and that we are pursuing Mitch Wallis and Will Setterfield. Also says that we are in on going talks with signing Laverde for him to join the midfield unit next season.
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A couple of rumours and a few minutes later this thread has already found the cocaine.
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If we can get Setterfield for our late second rounder or cheaper, totally worth the punt.
I would only say no to it if we had the opportunity to get Wallis in an even sweeter deal. But it would still be a tough call.
I would only say no to it if we had the opportunity to get Wallis in an even sweeter deal. But it would still be a tough call.
Glad our main focus is improving the midfield
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Can someone copy and paste for us cheapskates?
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"The Bombers have plans to upgrade its engine room next year and have targeted Western Bulldogs free agent Mitch Wallis and Greater Western Sydney youngster Will Setterfield to add more quality ball winners.
Essendon is also in talks to extend the contract of 191cm hybrid midfielder Jayden Laverde.
Laverde, 22, has struggled with injury since he was taken pick No.20 in the 2014 draft and has attracted interest from rival clubs.
The 191cm Keilor product had 33 possessions in the VFL against Port Melbourne a fortnight ago, but a hamstring strain pulled the handbrake on a senior call-up.
He has played 29 games over the past four years and knocked back an offer to join St Kilda in 2016.
The Bombers want to keep Laverde and have plans to unleash him as part of a revamped midfield next season.
Discussions on a new deal between Essendon premiership list guru Adrian Dodoro and manager Robbie D’Orazio are ongoing.
John Worsfold’s men have been one of the best-performed sides in the competition over the past two months and will regain spearhead Joe Daniher to help jump into the top-four next year."
My god... that reads like erotic fan fiction. If we land Shiel, Wallis and Setterfield, I'm going to need all the time between now and then to recover.
Essendon is also in talks to extend the contract of 191cm hybrid midfielder Jayden Laverde.
Laverde, 22, has struggled with injury since he was taken pick No.20 in the 2014 draft and has attracted interest from rival clubs.
The 191cm Keilor product had 33 possessions in the VFL against Port Melbourne a fortnight ago, but a hamstring strain pulled the handbrake on a senior call-up.
He has played 29 games over the past four years and knocked back an offer to join St Kilda in 2016.
The Bombers want to keep Laverde and have plans to unleash him as part of a revamped midfield next season.
Discussions on a new deal between Essendon premiership list guru Adrian Dodoro and manager Robbie D’Orazio are ongoing.
John Worsfold’s men have been one of the best-performed sides in the competition over the past two months and will regain spearhead Joe Daniher to help jump into the top-four next year."
My god... that reads like erotic fan fiction. If we land Shiel, Wallis and Setterfield, I'm going to need all the time between now and then to recover.
Haha
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Patience required with Laverde, all things told he's probably 12 months behind Langford in terms of midfield learning curve and development, but he's quite clearly on that same track Langford was.
Could well be that Worsfold has sat him down and had the same chat that he had with Langford about this time last year
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Wait till day 10 of the trade period.
thats some quality trolling. unless the author knows something we don't about the AFL script for 2018.......all those richmond omissions this week.
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The only mids i have ahead of Shiel in the comp are:
Dangerfield
Fyfe
J.Selwood
Cripps
Oliver (About even)
J.Kelly
Treloar (About even probably favour Shiel)
Dusty
T.Mitchell
Higgins/Cotchin(About even)
Dangerfield
Fyfe
J.Selwood
Cripps
Oliver (About even)
J.Kelly
Treloar (About even probably favour Shiel)
Dusty
T.Mitchell
Higgins/Cotchin(About even)
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Intersting counterpoint:
With a midfield of Myers (191cm), Langford (191cm), Heppell (189cm) and then hypothetically Setterfield (190cm) and laverde (191cm) also rotating through there - at what point do we start getting TOO tall and possibly slow?
Add Mitch Wallis and his glacial spread ability and we have 6 'big bodied' midfielders that comparatively lack foot speed to the rest of the comp.
This Is especially with the possibility of 6-6-6 starting positions, decreased interchange etc which is meant to open the game up.
Is it wise to be adding more inside monsters when tne ability to spread is about to become paramount.
Setterfield may well be talented, but he would be the 5th 189cm plus midfielder we have. If we are going to get Setterfield, it will be hard to see how they all fit in in the same side. Maybe Setterfield replaces Myers long term in the team.
Its for this reason i would rather throw all the cards on the Shiel table and get him. His speed and hard ball winning ability is not only a great combination, but will be invaulable in a game that is becoming more and more open. If i had the choice, Shiel over setterfield.
With a midfield of Myers (191cm), Langford (191cm), Heppell (189cm) and then hypothetically Setterfield (190cm) and laverde (191cm) also rotating through there - at what point do we start getting TOO tall and possibly slow?
Add Mitch Wallis and his glacial spread ability and we have 6 'big bodied' midfielders that comparatively lack foot speed to the rest of the comp.
This Is especially with the possibility of 6-6-6 starting positions, decreased interchange etc which is meant to open the game up.
Is it wise to be adding more inside monsters when tne ability to spread is about to become paramount.
Setterfield may well be talented, but he would be the 5th 189cm plus midfielder we have. If we are going to get Setterfield, it will be hard to see how they all fit in in the same side. Maybe Setterfield replaces Myers long term in the team.
Its for this reason i would rather throw all the cards on the Shiel table and get him. His speed and hard ball winning ability is not only a great combination, but will be invaulable in a game that is becoming more and more open. If i had the choice, Shiel over setterfield.
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