Roast Training standards / skills and fitness

[Horizons_00]

Ffs horizons our fitness was dogshit last year, takes years to build a proper tank. Will be a year or two yet before we build the size and strength required in the kids. How could you possibly make a bold sweeping statement about workouts unless you have compared the two? You are using performance on field as a measure of what S&C does/is doing. They have literally overhauled the s&c program, will take time to see the results, so actually give it time for a change

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Good points. We won’t see any real changes for a few years.

 

[the flying ham]

Good points. We won’t see any real changes for a few years.

What's most concerning is our inability to hit targets. Carrying one or two with ordinary disposal is one thing, carrying 12 or more is bloody hard to cop. Two blokes combined for nearly 20 turnovers, I mean **** hit a target can't blame stagnant players for kicks that miss a target by 15m **** I'm angry!

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[King Corey]

In general you play the way you train.

We are obviously woeful trainers.

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It's a pretty small industry.

Posted some info a few years ago via a coach/teacher who worked with AFL club in a specialised area.

It was well known that Richmond (early 2010s) were a slack group always trying to get out of any "extras". Conversely Collingwood had a reputation for being very driven and diligent about every extra thrown their way.

It seems these days we're the Richmond and everyone outside Arden Street knows it.

 

[groo]

Ffs horizons our fitness was dogshit last year, takes years to build a proper tank. Will be a year or two yet before we build the size and strength required in the kids. How could you possibly make a bold sweeping statement about workouts unless you have compared the two? You are using performance on field as a measure of what S&C does/is doing. They have literally overhauled the s&c program, will take time to see the results, so actually give it time for a change

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Could they fast track it by going to Utah?

 

[the flying ham]

Could they fast track it by going to Utah?

I think they will get a big uptick into next season. They should be going pretty hard now, they can build during the season. It will lead to some tired on field performance, but given we are struggling no one will know. It's a balancing act trying to build fitness and not impact performance during a season

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[Horizons_00]

I think they will get a big uptick into next season. They should be going pretty hard now, they can build during the season. It will lead to some tired on field performance, but given we are struggling no one will know. It's a balancing act trying to build fitness and not impact performance during a season

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This may explain the lack of intensity this year and our inability to run out games. All of our players wouldn’t be exposed to it.

 

[Samsquanch]

I think they will get a big uptick into next season. They should be going pretty hard now, they can build during the season. It will lead to some tired on field performance, but given we are struggling no one will know. It's a balancing act trying to build fitness and not impact performance during a season

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I can't see why they wouldn't be doing hard training, weights and endurance type stuff now. They are not making finals and they seriously have a lot of work to do to catch up with other teams. North players look small compared to some opponents. Like most of the Fitzroy guys in their last couple of years.

If losing games now is building players to win next year then go hard. Somewhere the basic skill elements of the game like kicking at goal from 40M and passing to unmarked players also need to be addressed - even if it is only to give the players some small levels of enjoyment of the game.

 

[the flying ham]

This may explain the lack of intensity this year and our inability to run out games. All of our players wouldn’t be exposed to it.

Yeah definitely could explain it, I think we are just coming from a mile back. Reckon post bye we will be running on top of the ground a bit more

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[the flying ham]

I can't see why they wouldn't be doing hard training, weights and endurance type stuff now. They are not making finals and they seriously have a lot of work to do to catch up with other teams. North players look small compared to some opponents. Like most of the Fitzroy guys in their last couple of years.

If losing games now is building players to win next year then go hard. Somewhere the basic skill elements of the game like kicking at goal from 40M and passing to unmarked players also need to be addressed - even if it is only to give the players some small levels of enjoyment of the game.

Fatigue makes cowards of us all. Shit fitness leads to poor execution. Both need work

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[archereleven]

It's a pretty small industry.

Posted some info a few years ago via a coach/teacher who worked with AFL club in a specialised area.

It was well known that Richmond (early 2010s) were a slack group always trying to get out of any "extras". Conversely Collingwood had a reputation for being very driven and diligent about every extra thrown their way.

It seems these days we're the Richmond and everyone outside Arden Street knows it.

We arnt even the Richmond atm from what im seeing... we arnt training skills or endurance, as neither have improved, so what are we actually doing on the track?

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[groo]

We arnt even the Richmond atm from what im seeing... we arnt training skills or endurance, as neither have improved, so what are we actually doing on the track?

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Pointing and yelling.

 

[justroyal]

Who are our best tacklers?

Jed, Ziebell, Horne, Greenwood, Zuurhar and Thomas is all I’ve got so far

 

[Mcarcherey]

We're so slow. Thought we recruited young fast players, yet we seem so incredibly slow. Not only are we slow at full pace, we're slow at spreading defensively, and offensively we hardly move.

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[Mcarcherey]

I think they will get a big uptick into next season. They should be going pretty hard now, they can build during the season. It will lead to some tired on field performance, but given we are struggling no one will know. It's a balancing act trying to build fitness and not impact performance during a season

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Nah. Massive increase in risk of injury and game time is always super valuable to execute the game plan, trial talent and practice the intensity that's required at the elite level. Not playing at 100% intensity is such a waste

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[glenn2479]

I think they will get a big uptick into next season. They should be going pretty hard now, they can build during the season. It will lead to some tired on field performance, but given we are struggling no one will know. It's a balancing act trying to build fitness and not impact performance during a season

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That would be a very plausible explanation and if it’s actually true I wonder why they wouldn’t just come out and say it?

 

[Lomas]

That would be a very plausible explanation and if it’s actually true I wonder why they wouldn’t just come out and say it?

Looks to much like tanking if it is your main goal, not winning.

 

[DesertRoo]

That would be a very plausible explanation and if it’s actually true I wonder why they wouldn’t just come out and say it?

With gambling being so prevalent they’re probably not allowed to say, yeah we’re throwing a season to get fit..

 

[glenn2479]

Looks to much like tanking if it is your main goal, not winning.

It’s a long term view in winning

 

[Samsquanch]

I have never really paid a lot of attention but I'd thought of Fyfe as a bit of a wiry type. Has he always been built like a brick s#ithouse?

 

[ferball]

Yep. Started out as a wiry kid.

 

[Samsquanch]

Yep. Started out as a wiry kid.

He must be eating t-bones for breakfast!


NTTAWWT

 

[krakouers]

I have never really paid a lot of attention but I'd thought of Fyfe as a bit of a wiry type. Has he always been built like a brick s#ithouse?

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Wiry until a couple of years ago… until he got a modelling contract

 

[Horizons_00]

Once we bulk up we could be, you know, physically intimidating.

Doubt any opposition is scared about some our players coming at them.

 

[Danni_Benson]

It's a pretty small industry.

Posted some info a few years ago via a coach/teacher who worked with AFL club in a specialised area.

It was well known that Richmond (early 2010s) were a slack group always trying to get out of any "extras". Conversely Collingwood had a reputation for being very driven and diligent about every extra thrown their way.

It seems these days we're the Richmond and everyone outside Arden Street knows it.

Listening to Noble’s many references about ‘standards’ I think he’s well aware of it too. It’s obviously not something you can change overnight so to speak. He’s taken on a hell of a job!

 

[archereleven]

He must be eating t-bones for breakfast!


NTTAWWT

Thin sliced scotch fillets with bacon and egg is the shit. Highly recommend.

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