Training Training Thread 2023

[Hojuman]

Am l one out in thinking;
CHF - Larkey
FF - Comben

Just think Souv has the games / nous to be the lead up - Charlie the big mark.

 

[Horace]

At this stage, Serong is worth more than all three combined. But it's a long road.

I know it is very dangerous to make any judgements based on what I saw today, but I think Powell is going to be a beauty. I've liked him from the word go. Last year he was down a bit but boy, he looks to have bulked up and some of his stuff today, was really good. It is as you say, a long road and I think we may well be very pleased, along that road, sooner than we think.

 

[Friday Night Lights]

Those training jumpers with the bounding roo really are mint

 

[berniemccarthy]

Am l one out in thinking;
CHF - Larkey
FF - Comben

Just think Souv has the games / nous to be the lead up - Charlie the big mark.

Think Larkey too good a finisher Hoj. Has a 3:1 goal v point ratio. Charlie has no record really. I think they will play either side like BBB and Waitey did.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

So what do we do regarding the 2nd ruck? Or we just go with Goldy and have Comben chopping him out for 4-5mins per quarter?

CCJ’s goal kicking is abysmal and X can’t play anywhere but ruck. I just don’t see how we can fit either of them in.

 

[Heaps of fun]

So what do we do regarding the 2nd ruck? Or we just go with Goldy and have Comben chopping him out for 4-5mins per quarter?

CCJ’s goal kicking is abysmal and X can’t play anywhere but ruck. I just don’t see how we can fit either of them in.

I wouldn't be afraid to play Goldy/Xerri with Comben rucking but realistically I think it will be Goldy and CCJ with Comben purely forward.

 

[JGreezy]

So what do we do regarding the 2nd ruck? Or we just go with Goldy and have Comben chopping him out for 4-5mins per quarter?

CCJ’s goal kicking is abysmal and X can’t play anywhere but ruck. I just don’t see how we can fit either of them in.

If everybody is 100% healthy then maybe we play Comben up forward, then two rucks with Goldy and CCJ/Xerri. One subs out before the end.

If Goldy is injured or resting then Xerri is first ruck. If Comben is out then we just play Goldy and CCJ.

 

[JGreezy]

Turner looks a better option than Stephenson for mine because he applies genuine forward pressure. I know that we complain (as have I) he doesn't kick goals but we need some pressure in there. I actually like Stepho I'm just worried he's just a bit thin for the way the game has evolved.

I think about this a bit with Wardlaw. I assume that he won't step into a full time role in the middle. He plays like a maniac. I wonder if he could add value with forward pressure.

It really feels like a couple of our problems on either end could be solved by acquiring Nick Watson and Hunter Clark at the end of the season.

 

[Passmore]

I haven’t seen the club this vibrant since Denis was appointed coach in 1993.

 

[Tas]

Am l one out in thinking;
CHF - Larkey
FF - Comben

Just think Souv has the games / nous to be the lead up - Charlie the big mark.

CHF is almost a defunct position, there are just too many players this day that are able to converge on this position in terms of a lead up role. It would be more realistic to have both start from the goal square and have Comben try and block space for Larkey to lead out to 30-40m out of goal whilst Comben remains the long option just outside the square. If Comben can't mark it he has to at least be able to consistently get the ball down so smaller forwards can hit the front of the pack. Too many of our resting tall forwards in the past have either conceded free kicks, not been able to contest or easily get out-marked.

 

[The Y Factor]

So what do we do regarding the 2nd ruck? Or we just go with Goldy and have Comben chopping him out for 4-5mins per quarter?

CCJ’s goal kicking is abysmal and X can’t play anywhere but ruck. I just don’t see how we can fit either of them in.

My guess is we don't.

You are on the money; Goldy and have Comben chopping him out for 4-5mins per quarter and F50.

CCJ needs is depth for Larks/ Chom in case of injury/ form. X Depth for Goldie and aire apparent.

This is my current belief.

 

[Tas]

Some generic thoughts about the intra-club...

We didn't constantly blaze away blindly from centre square stoppages, there was more emphasis on finding someone running past or hitting a shorter kick, this was a big positive.

The number of basic defensive errors were significantly reduced, from memory there was only one attempt to switch play which hit an opponent and I can't remember if it was a VFL player or an AFL player.

The amount of holding up the ball and going long up the line was significantly reduced. We had a lot more half backs and midfielders making space and moving on the angle so there was more flow and purpose to our ball movement and changing people in the roles didn't upset the flow too much.

Player specific thoughts:

Logue was fantastic, he pretty much kept Yellow in the game in the first quarter and when shifted to blue the score blew out, his ability to get to contests and to impact them is great.

I loved seeing Powell on the ball and not played in fringe roles, commentator said he put on 5kg and it is obvious a lot of it is upper body muscle, I am looking forward to seeing what he can do this year.

Cunners is a fine wine that just gets better with age, he can't play like he did five years ago but is using his wisdom now to play smarter, rely less on pure brute strength and use his experience and his ability to hit the target to the team's advantage. It is great to have the freedom to push him forward, he is a very reliable kick for goal.

McKay looks to be trying to do more than just intercept and compete one-on-one, I think he is a reliable short-range kick but he was turning the ball over a bit going longer, I hope he sticks to what he is great at. it is good for him to rebound more, but I think he needs to keep his range short. If he turns the ball over rebounding he isn't going to be in position to compete when the ball comes back.

Curtis was awesome, has added strength to his game.

Bonar and Perez were pretty good. Not sure if I missed anything important.

It was good to see Phillips on the park and playing in the middle, he is a long way back due the lack of games, he is showing plenty of positive signs but I think if he can't get a decent chunk of time in the middle it might be better for his development to get full games in the VFL in the guts. I have more faith in Clarkson to get his development right than his previous coach.

It was also great to see Comben on the park and have some impact. CCJ looked a lot better than he did last year, probably not a high bar to jump but it was a positive.

I felt LDU was a bit quiet, didn't have the kind of impact he had last year. Scott and Stephensen seemed to lack impact as well.

I did get a bit of a return of the 2021 nervous eye twitch when McDonald was outsmarted by a VFL player, on the flip side I was pleased that we have a good bunch of VFL listed players, the players in the VFL needed better quality players around them to get more out of their VFL games.

 

[Psicosis]

Agree with the sentiment around who impressed. A couple other things worth mentioning:

CCJ looked a different player. Was really pleasing to see him influence regardless of which side he played for. I just can’t help but think that Goldy & CCJ + Souv & Chom is the mix that gives us the most forward threat whilst not losing too much from a ruck perspective. X might just need to wait for Goldy to hang up the boots.

Perez is round 1 half back flank. Would have loved to see how Hall fitted in, but was very pleasing to see us have multiple exit paths from d50. Very pleased that Flynn is clearly in Clarksons plans.

I said it when we landed Grif, but he and McKay really could make the best KPD combo in the competition.

 

[gokangas]

Can someone please post details for the praccy matches? I can't find them on website. Tiggers, then Doggies I think.

 

[Psicosis]

Jaidyn just doesn’t look comfortable forward of the footy. The contrast in his body language when he was moved up the ground in the last quarter was significant.

 

[The Dingrel]

JHF absolutely stunk it up in ports internal tonight. Couldn’t get near it and gave away a double 50 for umpire abuse.

Happy Friday north fans

Really sounds like a great bit of trading, stopped out of that while it had some value.

 

[Tas]

Jaidyn just doesn’t look comfortable forward of the footy. The contrast in his body language when he was moved up the ground in the last quarter was significant.

He doesn't have any natural defensive instincts and he didn't look good anywhere on the ground he played. It isn't a lack of ability, I think his issues are above the shoulders, he seems psychologically frail and it isn't a great mindset for an elite athlete. I don't care if he makes mistakes having a crack, as long as he learns from the mistakes he makes. Where are the repeat efforts, where is the gut running to make himself a good option to receive the ball.

I am sure he has the desire to succeed and puts in effort but it isn't obvious from the outside looking in that it is well directed energy, where has the focus been on his development over the pre-season. You do not need to be a visionary to see what Powell has done over the pre-season, he knows the role he wants to play and he has worked hard to give himself the toolkit to play that role.

I can't think of a position or role I want him to play come round 1, he has been filling fringe roles because we have had a lack of players to fill those roles, the game of musical chairs is going to end soon and he is running out of chairs to find to sit on. We don't have room for him down back. McKay, Logue, Corr are our main defenders. Who is he pushing out back there, Ziebell and McDonald? Nope. Clarkson isn't getting rid of Ziebell. Young has filled in the other position and players like Hall, Perez, Bonar and Archer are more than likely preferred options.

I think he has the ability to play forward, like he originally did at Collingwood, play a bit like Fritsch does for Melbourne, it is one-dimensional and it requires him sagging off and getting into space, but Fritsch is Melbourne's best forward and impacts the scoreboard and gives them access to easy goals. Jaidyn just hasn't applied himself to make the most out of something he is naturally good at, he hasn't adapted to how players have managed to shut him out of games. He can't die wondering, because he is on the course for an exit out of the AFL and doubt he will get anyone else looking at him.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Can someone please post details for the pricey matches? I can't find them on website. Tiggers, then Doggies I think.

Friday, February 24​

Match simulation
North Melbourne vs. Richmond at Arden Street Oval – 10am

Saturday, March 4​

Practice match
Western Bulldogs vs. North Melbourne at Ikon Park – 1.10pm

 

[The Dingrel]

"You can see the kids got a lot of passion. Wears his heart on his sleeve and those umpires should take a good hard look at themselves. Based on this game alome they should offer him another 6 years."

But is he still handing the ball back to them "too forcibly?"

 

[The Dingrel]

Another comment from the Poorta Dlelie board

JHF nice broken tackle and burst from stoppage on the wing his only highlight

Watching him off the ball the dude was walking/slow jogging hands on hips style... like carn it's a trial but you'd think he'd offer a bit more... hoping for more in practice matches

So nothing's changed, and oh 1 intraclub and the'yre turning on their own. Looking for stability hey? He may well be the cause of instability.

 

[zoomba23]

So nothing's changed, and oh 1 intraclub and the'yre turning on their own. Looking for stability hey? He may well be the cause of instability.

They're not turning on their own, and I don't know how that comment can be construed as implying that. They all still back him 100%. Don't just make up bullshit mate

 

[The Dingrel]

They're not turning on their own, and I don't know how that comment can be construed as implying that. They all still back him 100%. Don't just make up bullshit mate

Referring to the fans, as it was a fan who made that comment champ.

 

[zoomba23]

Referring to the fans, as it was a fan who made that comment champ.

I know what you're referring to. I'm saying that the fans all back him, and that that comment doesn't indicate that anyone, not even the writer of the comment, is turning on him. I was pathetic enough to have a look at the Port board, and it's all support for him and justification for why he'd be acting in that way

 

[The Y Factor]

Agree with the sentiment around who impressed. A couple other things worth mentioning:

CCJ looked a different player. Was really pleasing to see him influence regardless of which side he played for. I just can’t help but think that Goldy & CCJ + Souv & Chom is the mix that gives us the most forward threat whilst not losing too much from a ruck perspective. X might just need to wait for Goldy to hang up the boots.

Perez is round 1 half back flank. Would have loved to see how Hall fitted in, but was very pleasing to see us have multiple exit paths from d50. Very pleased that Flynn is clearly in Clarksons plans.

I said it when we landed Grif, but he and McKay really could make the best KPD combo in the competition.

I expect we will go Goldie one out with Chom chopping him out a few minutes a quarter. CCj competing with Chom for a spot (although some matchup might require an extra tall forward). Whoever gets the spot with chop Goldie out.

Perez, Goater, Hall all able to run off half back feels a lot better this year.

 

[The acurate one]

Am l one out in thinking;
CHF - Larkey
FF - Comben

Just think Souv has the games / nous to be the lead up - Charlie the big mark.

No you're not.

I think that is now a given. The question is do we play another tall to support Goldy in the ruck. On current output, I'd rather have another mid option than a tall that doesn't impact much ie a Xerri, CCj, or Free.

But if I had to choose one it would be Free.