Roast Travis Cloke a bad day at the office

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Sorry for coming onto your board but I completely agree here. White is not really a good ruckman. He is much more dangerous if he is allowed to be a genuine roaming forward.
Someone has to give Grundy a chop out. You can't play Grundy, cloke, white, witts/hudson in the same side.

From what we have, White is the perfect second ruck IMO.
 

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Cloke's becoming a liability in the forward line. not his fault either, for years now the umpires have let his opponent get away with so much. it needs to end, its becoming a joke and costed us many time tonight. it ends NOW.

Yes, The Club has to do something about the Crap Cloke puts up with
 
Lay off the Maxwell hate FFS. He had another very solid game tonight.

Maxwell was getting towelled until he got injured then came back and steadied the ship somewhat then went missing.

He has his moments but we as a club need to find the new Maxwell hopefully one that can kick and defend 1v1 when required.

Maxwell was not our worst tonight but he is not the answer.
 
Yes, The Club has to do something about the Crap Cloke puts up with
even push him up the ground. but its hard to do that with reid out. i reckon had we played well in the first quarter and hadnt have to kick 6 goals in the second term, things would have been a lot more different.
 
Bucks should have given Trav a run in the ruck tonight in the second half when it was clear he was getting smashed by Lonergan and Grundy was struggling... Had to be worth a try..
 
Bucks should have given Trav a run in the ruck tonight in the second half when it was clear he was getting smashed by Lonergan and Grundy was struggling... Had to be worth a try..

I wouldn't mind see how trav goes in the ruck but i don't think i ever will.
 
Maxwell was getting towelled until he got injured then came back and steadied the ship somewhat then went missing.

He has his moments but we as a club need to find the new Maxwell hopefully one that can kick and defend 1v1 when required.

Maxwell was not our worst tonight but he is not the answer.

This.
 
I think they're too worried about him getting injured... otherwise can't see why they don't do it now and then just to free him up and get him into the game when he's struggling.. it's an obvious thing to do. I guess injury is the concern though.
 
Is Cloke instructed to plonk in the goal square and out wrestle his opponent? He used to lead, and leap at the ball. Now he grapples, wrestles, bodies. Sure, he's a bohemoth, but he can run too. Lead at the kicker, (although our delivery inside 50 is shite at best), and you never know, he might kick a few.
 

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Maxwell was one of our best again tonight.. even after rolling his ankle.. great effort!
Maxwell was one of our best in the 2nd quarter when returning from injury.
Maxwell was one of our worst in the 1st quarter when fit.
Maxwell was ok in the 3rd.
Maxwell was missing in the 4th.

So no he wan't overall one of our best at all, he did however have 2 good quarters.
 
Is Cloke instructed to plonk in the goal square and out wrestle his opponent? He used to lead, and leap at the ball. Now he grapples, wrestles, bodies. Sure, he's a bohemoth, but he can run too. Lead at the kicker, (although our delivery inside 50 is shite at best), and you never know, he might kick a few.
I think the last 2 years of experience with our inside forward 50 delivery has decided Trav that he may as well not bother leading, save the energy and wait in the goal square for a bomb on the head. Because leading for a pass ends in the same result .. a mongrel over his head or at his feet.. so he may as well save the energy.
 
Maxwell was one of our best in the 2nd quarter when returning from injury.
Maxwell was one of our worst in the 1st quarter when fit.
Maxwell was ok in the 3rd.
Maxwell was missing in the 4th.

So no he wan't overall one of our best at all, he did however have 2 good quarters.

Taken from the Collingwood Football Club Website
Best - Collingwood:
Elliott, Beams, Sidebottom, Macaffer, Maxwell, Lumumba
 
I think the last 2 years of experience with our inside forward 50 delivery has decided Trav that he may as well not bother leading, save the energy and wait in the goal square for a bomb on the head. Because leading for a pass ends in the same result .. a mongrel over his head or at his feet.. so he may as well save the energy.

He is a;so now struggling to get separation on the lead, how Lappin keeps his job is beyond me.
 
Taken from the Collingwood Football Club Website
Best - Collingwood:
Elliott, Beams, Sidebottom, Macaffer, Maxwell, Lumumba

I hear he finished top5 in the 2012 BnF too. Stuggled back before playing ruck and getting smashed, then going foward to no avail, before going back in the last 8 or so games in his more familiar role but still was only average but hey top 5.....yeah buddy.

What a joke the official bests are both AFL and VFL are usually eyebrow raising for a few spots each week.
 
I hear he finished top5 in the 2012 BnF too. Stuggled back before playing ruck and getting smashed, then going foward to no avail, before going back in the last 8 or so games in his more familiar role but still was only average but hey top 5.....yeah buddy.

What a joke the official bests are both AFL and VFL are usually eyebrow raising for a few spots each week.
Congratulations on knowing better than the club then.. (they have no idea do they!!) not to mention the commentators and everyone else who had Maxwell in the best.
 
Congratulations on knowing better than the club then.. (they have no idea do they!!) not to mention the commentators and everyone else who had Maxwell in the best.

As I said he was one of our best for a quarter or so after injury? you selectively reading or what?

However pre injury in the 1st quarter he was appalling and in the last he was MISSING.

By my count that is half a poor game and half a good one ie not our worst but not the ****ing answer!

BTW Maxwell is a revered pie and imo it has influence BnF results just like it does sometimes at local level.
 
He is a;so now struggling to get separation on the lead, how Lappin keeps his job is beyond me.

The one assistant coach Malthouse bequeathed to Buckley and he turns out to be utter sh!t.

What's more, Buckley re-signs him.

Eddie says 'oh, we WANT other clubs coming and taking our assistant coaches off of us, that shows we're leading the comp in assistant coaching development'. The fact that no one has come to pinch Lappin is telling...
 
As I said he was one of our best for a quarter or so after injury? you selectively reading or what?

However pre injury in the 1st quarter he was appalling and in the last he was MISSING.

By my count that is half a poor game and half a good one ie not our worst but not the ******* answer!

BTW Maxwell is a revered pie and imo it has influence BnF results just like it does sometimes at local level.
I was one of the ones howling for Maxy to be dropped last year.... But give credit where it's due would you.. he was one of our best players for the second week in a row despite rolling his ankle half way through the game and having to have painkilling injections!! Btw.. he was not at all appalling in the first qtr
 
I was one of the ones howling for Maxy to be dropped last year.... But give credit where it's due would you.. he was one of our best players for the second week in a row despite rolling his ankle half way through the game and having to have painkilling injections!! Btw.. he was not at all appalling in the first qtr

He cost us almost 2 direct goals in the 1st not appalling at all.

The week bfr he had a good 2nd half as the loose man and was similarly poor in the 1st and was turning the ball over all game.

I don't count half a good game as one of our bests sorry.

I also don't think he was one of our worst this week either I just don't think he is the answer moving fwd.
 
Bucks should have given Trav a run in the ruck tonight in the second half when it was clear he was getting smashed by Lonergan and Grundy was struggling... Had to be worth a try..

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The only way I can see the poor bloke getting a free is if he is intentionally r*ped on the football field. But if lubed, play on.

And lol at anyone who thinks he should be dropped. If youre going to send a message at the selection table, Cloke is a long way down the list.
 

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