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I instantly switch off when I read things like "Biden is to blame", or whatever. People politicizing this whole saga are the ones doing the most damage.
Treatment versus Vaccine
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Don't self medicate people
www.abc.net.au
In the meantime, guess what actual research provides us. An approved treatment for COVID:
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Authorities warn against acquiring drugs through back doors, after Sydney man overdoses on 'online cures'
A Western Sydney man, who recently presented to Westmead Hospital, overdoses on Ivermectin and other treatments that he had ordered online.
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In the meantime, guess what actual research provides us. An approved treatment for COVID:
TGA approves new COVID-19 treatment for use in Australia
Australians with COVID-19 who are at risk of hospitalisation will now have access to an additional antibody treatment, as the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) announced today it has granted provisional approval for sotrovimab to be used in Australia.
Shepparton gets access to new COVID-19 drug
Goulburn Valley Health will be able to administer COVID-19 drug sotrovimab that was recently given provisional approval.
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indeed. "random politician who has nothing to do with the medical science behind vaccines to blame for vaccines not working"
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surely the anti-vaxxers wont support this, given it will have the same sorts of testing as the vaccines (particularly regarding any long term effects)
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a completely irrelevant points given the vaccine hasn't been mandatory to date
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Oh you're one of them. Disingenuous. If a company says you will be vaccinated or you lose your job, income and all the effects that has on your family, your children and the food on the table, it is Mandatory. You're a disingenuous individual.
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My job hasn't made it mandatory. If you lose your job you can find another.
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Bullshit, not everyone can, there are arrangements, child care, travel, health and so much other that a self oriented individual like yourself is unable to gather. In the mean time whilst trying, they and their children suffer. It's an absolute crock.
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Still not mandatory though.
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Yes it is and referred to as such throughout. The only way your type of thinking works is via acceptance that nothing is ever mandatory. Stopping at reds light, taxes etc are not mandatory because you can still choose not to and pay the consequence. The only way your type of bullshit can ever be possible is through complete removal of the entire notion that anything is mandatory.
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Mandatory means you must do something.
What you're suggesting is you must do something or you must find a new job. They are two different things.
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The only way your type of thinking works is via acceptance that nothing is ever mandatory. Stopping at reds light, taxes etc are not mandatory because you can still choose not to and pay the consequence. The only way your type of bullshit can ever fly is through complete removal of the entire notion that anything is mandatory. You're a disingenuous individual.
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Don't worry, everyone who disagrees with his bad faith anti-vax arguments are called disingenuous.
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More treatment support. Just suggesting such was considered the realms of the lunatic fringes, including many half wit experts around here not so long ago.
Even Youtube algorithms were removing and lowering videos and stats of this very doctor on this very subject last year. The realisation is slowly sinking in.
Even Youtube algorithms were removing and lowering videos and stats of this very doctor on this very subject last year. The realisation is slowly sinking in.
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Oh no, this is horrible. Gun shot victims in rural Oklahoma missing out on treatment because of ivermectin od’s.
I’m sure this is 100% true and there is absolutely no reason why a doctor would lie and why so many news organisations would pick this up without fact checking it.
Edit - as expected the story is 100% made up. I hope this shows people just how ideologically driven both doctors and the media can be. Next time you read an article quoting a dr/nurse talking about hospitals being full and overrun with covid patients, take it with a grain of salt.
I’m sure this is 100% true and there is absolutely no reason why a doctor would lie and why so many news organisations would pick this up without fact checking it.
Edit - as expected the story is 100% made up. I hope this shows people just how ideologically driven both doctors and the media can be. Next time you read an article quoting a dr/nurse talking about hospitals being full and overrun with covid patients, take it with a grain of salt.
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Right,,,,so a video where he literally says that we need more RTC's and they need to be done quickly.
And a video where they state that ivermectin might work in a petri dish but would be toxic at the doses needed.
Am I missing your point?
I am a big supporter of finding Rx options and I think actual treatment options have been on the table for ages....Not sure where the "Just suggesting such was considered the realms of the lunatic fringes, including many half wit experts around here not so long ago" and "The realisation is slowly sinking in" comes into it.....
We need vaccinations AND actual proven treatment options. In my view, one doesnt replace the other, rather they compliment each other.
There are many scientists working on treatments as we speak.....
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I’m not taking an experimental drug to treat a virus with a vaccine which is 95% effective at preventing hospitalisation
You also have to remember that much work went into treatments of SARS-CoV back in the 2000's....We still dont have any treatments for that one. A lot of the info from that outbreak is been utlized now.
SARS: Systematic Review of Treatment Effects
A systematic review and comprehensive summary of reported treatments of SARS-infected patients, requested by the WHO expert panel on SARS, could not determine whether any treatments benefited patients.
