Trump - Harris Presidential Election 2024

[No SPIN]

He made his dads small fortune into a huge global company.

James Packer inherited way more..
Around 10 billion and has already lost half of it.

Investing is not easy.

True, just ask all the people who’ve lost money investing with Trump

 

[No SPIN]

Yeah watching Biden sniff children on tv is a conspiracy theory and when did I mention election fraud

You didn’t mention Pizzagate or that you’re a support Trump, but the inferences are clear.

 

[PIE TILL I DIE]

You didn’t mention Pizzagate or that you’re a support Trump, but the inferences are clear.

You're a sad man stop making assumptions and stop watching the news

 

[Roverjg]

He made his dads small fortune into a huge global company.

James Packer inherited way more..
Around 10 billion and has already lost half of it.

Investing is not easy.

Sorry but BS. His tax records confirm he has not made a profit in 12+ years. He is under several investigations for falsification of his property valuations. He downplayed valuations for tax relief/assistance and overvalued the same properties to the banks for better loans.

Packer inherited his Dads money but then had to give half to his sister after she issued legal proceedings. His poor decisions has contributed to a big drop in his share

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[Markfs]

He made his dads small fortune into a huge global company.

James Packer inherited way more..
Around 10 billion and has already lost half of it.

Investing is not easy.

i think trump went broke 3 times....but i understand that's probably a smart move because you can walk away from your debts to people. But I'd like to talk to trump. I think it might be pretty easy to get him to talk about some of america's secrets ...although the Don finds it very difficult to tell the truth

 

[No SPIN]

You're a sad man stop making assumptions and stop watching the news

Maybe you should not have put a target on your back, coming to the defense of Trump and accusing his critics as being “lefties”. And rolling out references to Biden “child sniffing”, that’s ubiquitous amongst Trump supporters.

 

[Markfs]

Sorry but BS. His tax records confirm he has not made a profit in 12+ years. He is under several investigations for falsification of his property valuations. He downplayed valuations for tax relief/assistance and overvalued the same properties to the banks for better loans.

Packer inherited his Dads money but then had to give half to his sister after she issued legal proceedings. His poor decisions has contributed to a big drop in his share

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his tax records say he didnt make a taxable income....I think most people with a few million dollars can do that...

 

[Markfs]

i'd like to ask trump what he extracted from jennifer hawkins in return for the miss universe crown...i'd start the dinner party off with that one...

 

[Mkcaptain]

his tax records say he didnt make a taxable income....I think most people with a few million dollars can do that...

Try accumulated losses of more than a billion.

As a Businessman, Trump Was the Biggest Loser of All

Many Americans still believe that the President is a savvy and successful businessman who knows what he is doing. But the actual record suggests the exact opposite.

www.newyorker.com

 

[No SPIN]

his tax records say he didnt make a taxable income....I think most people with a few million dollars can do that...

True - but I’d be pretty confident Trump used Tax Avoidance, and not it’s legal brother Minimisation.

 

[VinnieB]

his tax records say he didnt make a taxable income....I think most people with a few million dollars can do that...

Yes, you only have to listen to Kerry Packer’s famous speech on minimising tax.

 

[Bianconeri]

The conspiracy thread is where the “child sniffer” comments belong.
You can also add your evidence of mass election fraud and other Trump fabrications there as well.

True - but I’d be pretty confident Trump used Tax Avoidance, and not it’s legal brother Minimisation.

Hmmmm….

 

[KinderSmock]

He's one of the most popular people on the planet so clearly you're missing something.

Neither of them said they "support" Trump, just that he'd be interesting to talk to and now a lot of s**t about conspiracies and the world ect, which are fair comments.

Popularity is a mixed concept.

Whilst neither came out and said they support Trump, even mentioning his name is negligible at best. I’m sure he’s fascinating to speak with but for the purposes of content, pick someone more boring and less of a target.

 

[Black_White]

Sleepy joe would either be sniffing your butt or falling asleep. How the hell did he become potus

Apparently the people voted for him.
As is the usual way to become Potus.

 

[JB1975]

Couldn't imagine conversing with Trump. He's a blustering imbecile who doesn't much believe in listening to people. What an absolute f***wit!

I always thought George W Bush would be the more interesting of Presidents in recent times to sit down and shoot the breeze with. Might have chosen Bill, but can never be sure what's going on under the table with the guy.

 

[HeathySure]

The one good thing Trump has done is embezzle millions out of his followers, yet they keep deifying him.
Some would say cult like

 

[Pistol Night]

 

[No SPIN]

The one good thing Trump has done is embezzle millions out of his followers, yet they keep deifying him.
Some would say cult like

Yes keeps making up stories about how he’s been wronged to keep the cash rolling in.
In some ways I think that’s the worst of his crimes.

 

[Markfs]

True - but I’d be pretty confident Trump used Tax Avoidance, and not it’s legal brother Minimisation.

semantics as the intellectuals say.....once you start telling accountants to fiddle the books, you've lost me irrespective of the legality of it. And the laws are wriitten so the rich dont pay tax anyway. Next stage for the plebs is suiting up for the military to fight china to make the rich richer...

 

[No SPIN]

semantics as the intellectuals say.....once you start telling accountants to fiddle the books, you've lost me irrespective of the legality of it. And the laws are wriitten so the rich dont pay tax anyway. Next stage for the plebs is suiting up for the military to fight china to make the rich richer...

Not semantics at all.

Running a cascade of shell companies in tax havens to avoid tax, is very different to claiming motor vehicles expenses as a tax deduction.

 

[Maggie5]

He'd be more fun to chat with than dementia Biden.

Never proven.

Sleepy joe would either be sniffing your butt or falling asleep. How the hell did he become potus

Because the alternative was much worse?

He made his dads small fortune into a huge global company.

James Packer inherited way more..
Around 10 billion and has already lost half of it.

Investing is not easy.

Did nothing of the sort. A multiple bankrupt. Many creditors committed suicide due to unpaid debts.
Daddy bailed him out many times.

Hmmmm….

The one good thing Trump has done is embezzle millions out of his followers, yet they keep deifying him.
Some would say cult like

This! He is a cult leader that has sucked in millions from his followers was even caught out that when the punters donated to his many causes, they didn't notice the small print whereby their donation was ongoing.

He keeps saying to them that he is doing it for them. How many of the have committed adultery 3 times, have sued over 4000 times, been bankrupt 3 times has failed businesses in his airlines, casinos, steak, colleges, water, game, magazines etc etc.

He is a liar, a deranged conman and did nothing whilst President. No better health care plan in his first 100 days, infrastructure week was every other week and nothing built, no big wall that Mexico paid for etc etc. The only thing he did was tax cuts for the rich. Then to make it worse, reversed legislation in Climate Change, Environment and Safety all to appease his business donors.

Given his current court cases which if he become President he can pardon himself and the suckers are paying for his court costs. The good thing is that he can't pardon himself for State charges so I say go you good thing in New York and hopefully Georgia.

So when he says things like he is doing it for his followers, I laugh at the ignorance of his defenders and followers.

How anyone can defend this man is beyond comprehension.

 

[Markfs]

Not semantics at all.

Running a cascade of shell companies in tax havens is to avoid tax, is very different to claiming motor vehicles expenses as a tax deduction.

Never proven.


Because the alternative was much worse?

Did nothing of the sort. A multiple bankrupt. Many creditors committed suicide due to unpaid debts.
Daddy bailed him out many times.


This! He is a cult leader that has sucked in millions from his followers was even caught out that when the punters donated to his many causes, they didn't notice the small print whereby their donation was ongoing.

He keeps saying to them that he is doing it for them. How many of the have committed adultery 3 times, have sued over 4000 times, been bankrupt 3 times has failed businesses in his airlines, casinos, steak, colleges, water, game, magazines etc etc.

He is a liar, a deranged conman and did nothing whilst President. No better health care plan in his first 100 days, infrastructure week was every other week and nothing built, no big wall that Mexico paid for etc etc. The only thing he did was tax cuts for the rich. Then to make it worse, reversed legislation in Climate Change, Environment and Safety all to appease his business donors.

Given his current court cases which if he become President he can pardon himself and the suckers are paying for his court costs. The good thing is that he can't pardon himself for State charges so I say go you good thing in New York and hopefully Georgia.

So when he says things like he is doing it for his followers, I laugh at the ignorance of his defenders and followers.

How anyone can defend this man is beyond comprehension.

i watched a grassroots video on middle america. There was an interview with a man on the street in west virginia in coal country. The area used to vote 70% democrat and went republican. The people only know that the democrats want to stop coal and they see no alternative. A similar thing happens in steel towns, car industry towns and other industries. A vote for trump is often a vote against the alternative. I can comprehend that.

 

[Maggie5]

i watched a grassroots video on middle america. There was an interview with a man on the street in west virginia in coal country. The area used to vote 70% democrat and went republican. The people only know that the democrats want to stop coal and they see no alternative. A similar thing happens in steel towns, car industry towns and other industries. A vote for trump is often a vote against the alternative. I can comprehend that.

Maybe they believe that Trump's reversal of Environmental Laws, also withdrawing from the Paris Agreement within 2 years in office, helps them. Not sure that will be the case 10 years on.

 

[Markfs]

Maybe they believe that Trump's reversal of Environmental Laws, also withdrawing from the Paris Agreement within 2 years in office, helps them. Not sure that will be the case 10 years on.

I'm not saying that they are thinking rationally. They live the lives of their parents and often grandparents. Prosperity has gone with the coal, steel, cars etc. They want it back. You said you cant comprehend. Well ...

And then there are the social issues where the democrats seem to be more concerned with minority groups. They've left a hole and trump has filled it. And americans have been brought up with the idea that everyone can get rich...and trump embodies that. I could go on. There are those that support him for who he is, and others for the lack of alternative.

We're going to be led into a war because apparently china wants to take away my way of life...and yours...my way of life? I can think of other more likely reasons and many are associated with those in power. I can't quite comprehend why people would go to war and suffer while the politicians live quite well for the duration and long after and lay wreaths on the graves and say how the dead defended our freedoms and then lead us to war a generation later.

 

[No SPIN]

I'm not saying that they are thinking rationally. They live the lives of their parents and often grandparents. Prosperity has gone with the coal, steel, cars etc. They want it back. You said you cant comprehend. Well ...

And then there are the social issues where the democrats seem to be more concerned with minority groups. They've left a hole and trump has filled it. And americans have been brought up with the idea that everyone can get rich...and trump embodies that. I could go on. There are those that support him for who he is, and others for the lack of alternative.

We're going to be led into a war because apparently china wants to take away my way of life...and yours...my way of life? I can think of other more likely reasons and many are associated with those in power. I can't quite comprehend why people would go to war and suffer while the politicians live quite well for the duration and long after and lay wreaths on the graves and say how the dead defended our freedoms and then lead us to war a generation later.

You under estimate the power of the voter.
Your argument about Trumps support in the rust belt states was true in 2016, but many states shunned him and returned to the Democrats in 2020.

I’m yet to hear a convincing argument about which elites benefit from war - these are conspiracy arguments with a tenuous foundation.
But I’m keen to hear your view.

The most powerful companies in the world are now tech companies, Microsoft, Apple, Google, Meta etc.
War would destroy their business model, so if you believe they and other big business behomoths will stand still while politicians arbitrarily embark on a war with China I think you’re incorrect.