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Anti-vaxxer, conspiracy theorist, and all-round loon bringing shame to his proud family name. We can be critical of the Democrats but when his nutjobbery is added to the orange man's, the result is exponential. Important to not lose perspective of this.

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RFK Jr, as he’s known universally, is blessed with the family’s good looks but none of its, ah, good sense. He blamed a “brain worm”. No, not a worm as metaphor for a mental quirk but a brain abnormality that he said was caused by “a worm that got into my brain and ate a portion of it and then died”.

Many Americans might have overlooked this, except that he fell into a flirtation with conspiracy theories, a flirtation that became a fixation. Most damagingly for his public standing, he promoted misinformation about COVID vaccines.

But last week, RFK Jr announced that he was suspending his campaign as an independent. He would support Donald Trump instead.

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Dr Donald “bleach” Trump embraced the anti-vaxxer on stage at a rally on Friday and welcomed his support. He’d earlier called him “the dumbest member” of the Kennedy family, but last week lauded him as “a brilliant guy”. Trump suggested that he might give him a job in a Trump administration.

Five of RFK’s siblings mourned this new alliance in a statement as “a sad ending to a sad story”. Why sad? Because it was “a betrayal of the values that our father and our family hold most dear”.
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Will Trump get a boost now that RFK Jr’s brain worm has turned?

Robert Kennedy Jr has thrown his support behind Donald Trump in a move former friends have described as “sad and surreal”.
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jathanas said:
Anti-vaxxer, conspiracy theorist, and all-round loon bringing shame to his proud family name. We can be critical of the Democrats but when his nutjobbery is added to the orange man's, the result is exponential. Important to not lose perspective of this.

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RFK Jr, as he’s known universally, is blessed with the family’s good looks but none of its, ah, good sense. He blamed a “brain worm”. No, not a worm as metaphor for a mental quirk but a brain abnormality that he said was caused by “a worm that got into my brain and ate a portion of it and then died”.

Many Americans might have overlooked this, except that he fell into a flirtation with conspiracy theories, a flirtation that became a fixation. Most damagingly for his public standing, he promoted misinformation about COVID vaccines.

But last week, RFK Jr announced that he was suspending his campaign as an independent. He would support Donald Trump instead.

Illustration: Andrew Dyson

Illustration: Andrew DysonCredit:

Dr Donald “bleach” Trump embraced the anti-vaxxer on stage at a rally on Friday and welcomed his support. He’d earlier called him “the dumbest member” of the Kennedy family, but last week lauded him as “a brilliant guy”. Trump suggested that he might give him a job in a Trump administration.

Five of RFK’s siblings mourned this new alliance in a statement as “a sad ending to a sad story”. Why sad? Because it was “a betrayal of the values that our father and our family hold most dear”.
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www.theage.com.au

Will Trump get a boost now that RFK Jr’s brain worm has turned?

Robert Kennedy Jr has thrown his support behind Donald Trump in a move former friends have described as “sad and surreal”.
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He will be banished to the Kids' Table at Family Christmas.
 

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frizzle said:
The more time passes the more conspiracy theories become true.
Another example of free speech being eroded. Wake up & stop being sheep.


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I'm awake to the fact that you're happy to use this thread as a forum for your tired conspiracy theories.

I'd rather you not, but who am I am to curtail your speech.

And the correct term is 'sheeple'. Thanks.
 
frizzle said:
The more time passes the more conspiracy theories become true.
Another example of free speech being eroded. Wake up & stop being sheep.


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I'm open-minded and would like to know which conspiracy theory is proven.

Efforts were made to restrict looney theories on social channels (including BigFooty). Zuck didn't like the extra responsibility/expense. The complaining by Meta at the time was no secret.
 
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Get ready for an even higher mortgage if the orange man wins.

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“A return to Trumpian economic nationalism is not what the world needs,” he says. “Unfortunately, the world does not get a vote.”

There’s been surprisingly little public debate in Australia about the implications of Trump’s economic plans, especially his trade policies. “People either don’t believe Trump will win or they don’t believe he’d be that stupid,” says McKibbin. But prediction models of the electoral contest between Trump and Democrat nominee Kamala Harris show a very tight race for the White House.

Protectionism has been on rise since Trump’s first term; President Joe Biden left most of his predecessor’s tariffs in place and has come up with new ones of his own, including a 100 per cent impost on electric vehicles imported from China.

But a re-elected Trump is set to take global trade conflict to a whole new level. The federal government estimates around one in every four Australian jobs is related to overseas trade and the taxes paid by our commodity exporters are a crucial source of public revenue. If Trump does return to the White House, Australians will likely get a painful reminder of just how important trade is to us.
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What will happen to your mortgage if ‘tariff man’ Trump wins the White House

Many countries would respond to Trump’s tariff hike with tit-for-tat trade restrictions. That would increase the cost of goods and services traded internationally, stoking inflation.
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sideswipe said:
Jamel Holley labels himself as an adviser to RFJ Jr. Do you know if he goes for bear?

Still waiting on your answer as to whether you think there is a link between vaccines and autism.


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I don’t know if there is a link between vaccines & Autism. But the amount of Autistic children living in the world now is way higher than ever before. Everything should be investigated.
 
frizzle said:
I don’t know if there is a link between vaccines & Autism. But the amount of Autistic children living in the world now is way higher than ever before. Everything should be investigated.
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It has been comprehensively investigated and any link has been completely and utterly refuted. But that will never be accepted by the likes of RFK jr.

Thanks for the answer. Worked out where you stand.
 

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frizzle said:
I don’t know if there is a link between vaccines & Autism. But the amount of Autistic children living in the world now is way higher than ever before. Everything should be investigated.
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But just for shits and giggles, can you point to which particular vaccine is the one that might be causing all the autism? Or is it just all of them?
 
JB1975 said:
I'm awake to the fact that you're happy to use this thread as a forum for your tired conspiracy theories.

I'd rather you not, but who am I am to curtail your speech.

And the correct term is 'sheeple'. Thanks.
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Sounds like you want to censor my free speech. Let’s be honest. This is a labour left leaning forum. No room for anything else is there? I’ve already had my post deleted previously here by our mod. So I’m not fussed if you thread ban me.
 
sideswipe said:
It has been comprehensively investigated and any link has been completely and utterly refuted. But that will never be accepted by the likes of RFK jr.

Thanks for the answer. Worked out where you stand.
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As I have with you.
 
sideswipe said:
But just for shits and giggles, can you point to which particular vaccine is the one that might be causing all the autism? Or is it just all of them?
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Krugman, the Nobel-awarded economist on Trump's potential disastrous policy mix for inflation is below. Krugman is an expert in trade economics.

Krugman's recent major forecasting track record:
  • called GFC
  • predicted 2020 Covid share price collapse would soon reverse
  • underestimated inflation coming out of GFC

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AUGUST 27, 2024​
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Trump could start an inflationary perfect storm​

Author HeadshotBy Paul Krugman
My latest column is about how inflation is fading as both an economic and a political issue — which is good news for Kamala Harris and bad news for Donald Trump. Yet it remains quite possible that Trump will win. And if he does, inflation may become a major problem again.

Economic forecasters surveyed by The Wall Street Journal last month generally predicted that inflation would be higher if Trump won than if President Biden (still the Democratic nominee at that point) won. As you might guess, I agree. In fact, I believe that most analysts are still understating just how inflationary a second Trump term might be.

Why? Because I don’t think even most economists fully appreciate the possible interactions between Trump’s love of tariffs, his desire to politicize the Fed and his expressed desire for a weaker dollar.

Start with tariffs. Trump has been saying for a while that he wants to put a “ring around the collar” of the U.S. economy, with 10 percent tariffs on everyone and a much higher rate on China. Lately he’s been going bigger, suggesting a 20 percent rate. I wouldn’t put much weight on these numbers, which he’s surely pulling out of thin air. But for what it’s worth, tariffs at the rates Trump is suggesting would be seriously inflationary, raising prices enough to reduce the typical family’s purchasing power by 4 percent according to this estimate:

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In case you’re wondering, this chart also shows the impact of Trump’s plans to extend his 2017 tax cut, which would do little to offset the effects of the tariffs for most people but would produce a net gain for, you guessed it, the top 1 percent.

But rather than take Trump’s made-up numbers seriously, it probably makes more sense to ask what he would be trying to do. We know that Trump has a mercantilist view of trade, in which we win if we run a trade surplus, lose if we run a trade deficit. So the goal of his tariffs would be to eliminate the U.S. trade deficit.

And a 20 percent tariff rate wouldn’t accomplish that goal. In fact, it would probably do little to reduce trade deficits at all.

Partly that’s because U.S. businesses rely on a lot of imported parts and materials, and an across-the-board tariff would mostly just raise their costs. More fundamentally, tariffs would tend to raise the foreign exchange value of the dollar, making our exporters less competitive.

Why would this happen? The balance of payments always balances — the total inflow of money into America must equal the total outflow. In particular (leaving aside some technical issues involving investment income), it must be true that: Trade deficit = net inflows of capital.

So unless we reduce the amount of foreign capital flowing into the United States — the amount that foreign governments, companies and individuals are investing here — we can’t reduce the trade deficit. The way that normally plays out is that if we reduce imports, that change is offset by a fall in exports. Squeezing any one piece of the trade deficit is like pushing on a balloon: It just expands someplace else. And the mechanism through which that happens is typically a stronger dollar.

So imagine a Trump administration that imposes tariffs to eliminate the trade deficit, then finds that it didn’t work. You might think that this would lead Trump and his advisers to rethink their policy ideas; that is, you might think that if you’ve spent the past seven years in a Trappist monastery or otherwise under some sort of metaphorical rock. It’s much more likely that Trump would dig in and push tariffs even higher.

Furthermore, Trump has already been saying that he wants a weaker dollar. He would presumably be deeply frustrated if the dollar grew stronger instead as a result of his tariffs. So he would demand that something be done.

But what can be done? There’s another fundamental principle in international economics known as the impossible trinity. It says that so long as capital is free to move across borders, you can’t make a distinction between exchange rate policy and monetary policy. In this case, it means that the only way to push the dollar down would be for the Federal Reserve to push down interest rates, which would be inflationary if the economy is near full employment.

Would the Fed cooperate? It’s supposed to be independent. But Trump wants to end that independence.

So here’s my Trumpflation story: After being returned to power, Trump, with his mercantilist views, tries to eliminate trade deficits with tariffs. When this fails, in part because the value of the dollar has gone up, he raises tariffs even higher, while leaning on the Fed to cut interest rates to push the dollar back down.

All of this would be seriously inflationary. So, by the way, would mass deportation of a significant part of the U.S. work force.

How would Trump deal with inflation? We don’t know, but foreign authoritarian leaders, whom Trump admires, often respond to economic difficulties by embracing crackpot theories peddled by people telling them what they want to hear. After all, Trump is already insisting that tariffs don’t raise consumer prices, a view that essentially no mainstream economists support.

How high might Trump drive inflation? Well, in recent years President Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey made a point of rejecting orthodox economics, driving inflation to 85 percent before finally giving in and accepting some mainstream advice. It would take a lot to get America, which starts from a strong position, into that much trouble, but I don’t believe that most analysts are fully realizing just how bad Trumpflation might get.

Of course, we may never find out. Polls have moved against Trump since Harris replaced Biden as the Democratic nominee. And to be honest, inflation is not at the top of the list of things that would worry me if Trump got back into power.

Still, Trumpflation is one threat — and a bigger one than most analysts seem to realize.
 
sideswipe said:
As stated above, which you seemed to ignore, it has been investigated. Andrew Wakefield ensured that with his fraudulent work which prompted much more research. There has been no link found. That's science.
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I'll make my own mind up thanks & I definitely don't trust science. Are you a Doctor?
 
frizzle said:
Sounds like you want to censor my free speech. Let’s be honest. This is a labour left leaning forum. No room for anything else is there? I’ve already had my post deleted previously here by our mod. So I’m not fussed if you thread ban me.
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I've got a theory that people like you are in the habit of self-censoring.

Not because of what you think you shouldn't say, but because you know how ludicrous your views are when you try and articulate them.

I'm here for entertainment. Say what you please.
 
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