News Tyson Stengle taken to hospital Saturday night

[Pure_Ownage]

Absolute rubbish, that’s an old school mentality. I think it did happen in 07 because the club had a problem with partying.

Professional athletes aren’t robots, they need to be able to enjoy life to perform at their best, otherwise it is not good for the mental health of players and can put undue pressure on the result.

They need to be able to enjoy life but no good comes out of being in a public place after midnight when youre a league footballer. The smart players do what they do at home where it cant get into the media so easily. Im more interested in why he thought that was a good choice than whether he actually took any drugs/alcohol/had drink spiked.

 

[Strange Cat]

They need to be able to enjoy life but no good comes out of being in a public place after midnight when youre a league footballer. The smart players do what they do at home where it cant get into the media so easily. Im more interested in why he thought that was a good choice than whether he actually took any drugs/alcohol/had drink spiked.

Couldn’t pay me enough to be famous , being young and out and about is hard enough as it is without the extra attention

 

[Cataholic]

That’s why I tell my daughter all the time to watch her drinks and to make sure her friends knows where she is and watches her drinks aswlel

Makes me very worried as a father

Same. It is a real fear.

 

[Commando]

They need to be able to enjoy life but no good comes out of being in a public place after midnight when youre a league footballer. The smart players do what they do at home where it cant get into the media so easily. Im more interested in why he thought that was a good choice than whether he actually took any drugs/alcohol/had drink spiked.

Correct
But when I was that age I wouldn't have thought so.

Hasn't Stengle had issues being drunk in Geelong before?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

They need to be able to enjoy life but no good comes out of being in a public place after midnight when youre a league footballer. The smart players do what they do at home where it cant get into the media so easily. Im more interested in why he thought that was a good choice than whether he actually took any drugs/alcohol/had drink spiked.

Yeah it was pretty inadvisable, but I could imagine being his age and bumping into a group of fans who think you're the greatest ever and who keep wanting to buy you drinks.

You can't accept it and he needs a week off minimum, but to dwell on it is to hold him to a higher standard than most of us would have met until after the age of 35

 

[Mr Meow]

It's probably better to claim 'mental health' now

It's an even better idea not to use situations like this - for which you don't know the actual details - to show what a d**k you are.

 

[The_Koulouriotis_Fan]

They need to be able to enjoy life but no good comes out of being in a public place after midnight when youre a league footballer. The smart players do what they do at home where it cant get into the media so easily. Im more interested in why he thought that was a good choice than whether he actually took any drugs/alcohol/had drink spiked.

My response was to the idea that it should be a total Alcohol ban at football clubs.

It’s a shame that league footballers often can’t enjoy a night out at a club like other people their age.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

My response was to the idea that it should be a total Alcohol ban at football clubs.

It’s a shame that league footballers often can’t enjoy a night out at a club like other people their age.

It does affect their output and ability to perform on their contract though.

Breaches of trust like this appears to be are hard to navigate though of you want to keep up a culture of personal accountability

 

[Vdubs]

My response was to the idea that it should be a total Alcohol ban at football clubs.

It’s a shame that league footballers often can’t enjoy a night out at a club like other people their age.

Plenty of opportunities to do so post season.
It is not a big ask to have total commitment to the cause at this stage of the season. And ideally all season.
Many teams have made that commitment and mentioned it post premierships, victories in many sports.

it's probably not a policy at our club, or any club, fwiw; I just think it should be

 

[sexyhunk]

Sigh.

Regardless of what happened, I mean...
of all players... and of course it has to happen just after we sign him on a big deal.

you'd think there some clauses in the contract.

 

[The_Koulouriotis_Fan]

Plenty of opportunities to do so post season.
It is not a big ask to have total commitment to the cause at this stage of the season. And ideally all season.
Many teams have made that commitment and mentioned it post premierships, victories in many sports.

it's probably not a policy at our club, or any club, fwiw; I just think it should be

When has this been an issue at Geelong since 2007? This is the first case I remember and we don’t even know the facts of what happened.

We won a flag in 2022 and there were a few times through the year when the players would mention having a couple of beers to celebrate wins or special occasions.
But that’s what it should be, a couple at most, in the end they’re professional athletes and can’t be getting trashed every weekend.

 

[Footy Smarts]

I'd be interested to know how much drinking culture there is in the AFL now. I imagine it's still significant and getting drunk after a game is a regular occurrence from a big chunk of the players. As recently as 2010 I personally saw two very well respected premiership players out and clearly drunk the night before a game which seems much more problematic than getting drunk a week out from your next match.

This could be basically nothing where players are free to drink after a game and he's just gone overboard this time. In which case it's important to defend him from the public shit he's copping. Or it could be a symptom of real problems that need to be addressed. Whatever the case I can't see the club hanging him out to dry publicly given his history.

 

[The_Koulouriotis_Fan]

It does affect their output and ability to perform on their contract though.

Breaches of trust like this appears to be are hard to navigate though of you want to keep up a culture of personal accountability

Of course, I’m not advocating for players to be getting drunk, and the
only drinking I would advocate would be within a safe window that won’t have an adverse effect on their ability to perform on the field.

My point is that a total alcohol ban isn’t a great thing for players mental health and from my experience it doesn’t work anyway.

It is hard at a club that cultivates player autonomy to police indiscretions.

We’ll all await clear information and see how the club handles it. Disappointing for Tyson to be in the centre of something and I hope he comes out of it alright, because there is going to be media heat regardless of what the circumstances are.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

That’s why I tell my daughter all the time to watch her drinks and to make sure her friends knows where she is and watches her drinks aswlel

Makes me very worried as a father

It’s why I prefer a bottle over an open glass. I know it is still a risk but a small neck bottle does limit the risk more.

 

[frggr]

A zero alcohol policy during season should be mandatory- it is for anyone who wants success, but that's a different but true issue.

Is it? Surely treating your players like adults builds a better culture?

 

[Baudolino]

I'd be interested to know how much drinking culture there is in the AFL now. I imagine it's still significant and getting drunk after a game is a regular occurrence from a big chunk of the players. As recently as 2010 I personally saw two very well respected premiership players out and clearly drunk the night before a game which seems much more problematic than getting drunk a week out from your next match.

If that were the case surely the general public would know about it. Smartphones are ubiquitous these days, why isn't social media plastered with footage of players getting drunk if it's so common?

 

[frggr]

It's probably better to claim 'mental health' now

The 'mental health' message from the club is likely to be in support of his mental health knowing his embarrassing situation is going to be in the media and every dimwit with a half-formed thought will be having his say about it. A shocking number of them (not you, of course) will frame in terms of his past and his cultural background.

You and I get black out drunk and it's our friends that find out about it. He does it and it's news for days. I'd want mental health to be the priority if I was in his position.

 

[frggr]

I'd be interested to know how much drinking culture there is in the AFL now. I imagine it's still significant and getting drunk after a game is a regular occurrence from a big chunk of the players. As recently as 2010 I personally saw two very well respected premiership players out and clearly drunk the night before a game which seems much more problematic than getting drunk a week out from your next match.

This could be basically nothing where players are free to drink after a game and he's just gone overboard this time. In which case it's important to defend him from the public shit he's copping. Or it could be a symptom of real problems that need to be addressed. Whatever the case I can't see the club hanging him out to dry publicly given his history.

Drinking culture on the whole has slowed in young people.

It's cheaper to get absolutely sideways on drugs and the immediate downsides (so to speak) are fewer.

 

[Lana]

If that were the case surely the general public would know about it. Smartphones are ubiquitous these days, why isn't social media plastered with footage of players getting drunk if it's so common?

They're out drinking with Bigfoot.

 

[Commando]

The AFL’s woke integrity unit obsession is a truck load of bs.

Players can do whatever they want in their free time away from work within the limits of the law. As long as players act in a legal way, people can piss off and mind their own business.

To a degree yes but high profile athletes surely have something about bringing the game into disrepute etc in their contract or eba

 

[Footy Smarts]

If that were the case surely the general public would know about it. Smartphones are ubiquitous these days, why isn't social media plastered with footage of players getting drunk if it's so common?

Why would anyone care? It's legal and a big proportion of the population drink to excess regularly. I'm not saying there are 50+ AFL players passed out in public each Saturday night but I'd be surprised if there aren't 50+ who have clearly had a few each Saturday night.

Are there any videos or photos of Stengle's night out? If nobody cared about his drinking until he passed out why would you think they'd care about other AFL players?

 

[Pure_Ownage]

If that were the case surely the general public would know about it. Smartphones are ubiquitous these days, why isn't social media plastered with footage of players getting drunk if it's so common?

Because most players dont do it out and about where it can be noticed they do it in private (at least the smart or well advised ones do).

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Is it? Surely treating your players like adults builds a better culture?

100%. There's a line of course, but by and large AFL players are no different to those around them.

They might not be getting plastered every weekend like their 9 to 5 mates, but they'll be drinking at some point throughout the season.

Treat them like adults, and let it be known that they're responsible for their actions.

If you're totalitarian about it, they're just going to end up doing it behind your back anyway, which directly goes against the culture of accountability that Geelong have built.

As for Tyson, just glad to hear he's okay. Hardly going to judge the guy when I don't know the details either.

 

[ShaunWDT]

Am I the only one that doesnt really care? The reality is young blokes are pretty loose units, wont be the first guy to go a little too hard once in a while, for every one you hear about theres 20 that get swept under the carpet.

Club have said hes fine and he was at training just over 24 hours later, dont think Bigfooty Sherlock Holmes is necessary here.

 

[juzcat]

Same I’ve been spiked twice and I’m a male so it does happen

Gees. Sorry you went through that. Glad you still here.

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