Under Age U16s - 2027 AFL Draft General Discussion

[RedmanWasHere]

Probably too early to do this but this is probably the first draft and cohort the Tasmanian side get a proper look in as the established 19th club.

2025 (secondary) and 2026 (primary) will be the years in which the foundations of the Tassie team are set.

From what little we saw in a 2021 U12's game, Sachin Tyrrell from Victoria is in this pool.
There's also a 196cm player from Queensland called Max Boothey but not sure if he's a Brisbane or Gold Coast Sun academy prospect. (Ping Thommo 42.)

Also, 2 F/S prospects played in the same game as Tyrrell.

Kobe Bewick (Essendon) and Tevita Rodan (Port Adelaide.)

Perhaps a Burgoyne (Percy) is up for grabs for Port Adelaide or Hawthorn.

Look forward to seeing which of the names who will be mentioned in this thread will end up starting their careers with Tassie.

Courtesy of Dylan82.

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[Thommo 42]

Geez, going early here.

I know a few QLD kids around this age, but there has never been a national carnival for 08 and 09 born kids due to COVID.

Max is 196cm, is an 09 kid and is Lions zoned doing Level 1 stuff again I would guess this year. Robert Copeland

Robert Copeland

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86kg

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10.0

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6.4

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3.5

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2.8

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2.5

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8.0

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has a son born 09 that is pretty handy also, but we are going very bloody early to talk about kids this age!

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Geez, going early here.

I know a few QLD kids around this age, but there has never been a national carnival for 08 and 09 born kids due to COVID.

Max is 196cm, is an 09 kid and is Lions zoned doing Level 1 stuff again I would guess this year. Robert Copeland has a son born 09 that is pretty handy also, but we are going very bloody early to talk about kids this age!

I know I'm going early but there is precedence in this area.

Touk Miller was talked about as a future top draft prospect when he was 12 years old in 2008 but it's not the norm to do it this early outside of F/S and, now, F/D prospects.

I just wanted to tag you to clarify which academy Boothey is part of.

The Tassie kids who'd be eligible in 2026 and 2027 must surely be getting excited and/or nervous about this I reckon.

 

[Thommo 42]

well there is also an 09 born kid called Hugh Taylor who is a pretty handy player in the Swans academy, so I guess if we're going early - he is pretty good.

 

[Lore]

I think we will lock this one and reopen it at the end of the year. Can of worms making threads about children.

 

[Lore]

Bump

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Thanks for the thread bump Lore.

Sorry for being somewhat premature in my thread creating haste.

It mightn't've been the right time to create such a thread but, the Tassie news brought on some excitement.

For the first time since 2008-10, we'll have a new team in the AFL to talk about in the present tense once the 2027 AFLM Draft comes around. (GC and GWS were awarded licenses in 2008 and 2009 respectively and both were in the midst of player recruitment in 2010.)

With Tassie's insertion into the AFL, we'll see a group of players being drafted and pre-selected and enter a season where, for the first time since 2011, we'll have an odd number of teams jostling for the top 8.

As soon as Tassie was granted an AFL license last year, speculation begun on who would be the players the new club would target and who'd be the inaugural coach and captain.

That might've been good for clicks and cheap discussion but it does nothing for projection and prediction of player quality in come 2027.

Whoever are the stars/big names/big out of contract signings in 2027 are, that's when the discussions in the media should properly begin.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

While I may not have any mod power, any chatter that deteriorates into another academy/FS compromised draft argument will be dealt with by the mods.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

GC2015.

Welcome to this thread.

 

[Tandy]

Not sure what the issue is? The fella who name dropped Touk Miller

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Touk Miller

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84kg

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M

3.7

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5.4

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4.2

5star

D

22.0

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K

11.4

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

2.9

3star

T

4.8

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4.1

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17.8

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K

5.8

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12.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.0

5star

over 10 yrs ago is still living off his Big footy fame! Have a crack, someone might bump this thread in 10 years time and you'll look like a genius!

 

[RedmanWasHere]

2027 also sees, for the first time ever, junior Tassie players having a full season where playing for an AFL club/team bearing the name of its namesake state isn't some fanciful dream.
It's a realistic possibility.

Whatever concessions the Tasmanians get (if those concessions are spread across 2027-30 drafts) I'm happy for it to have them.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Not sure what the issue is? The fella who name dropped Touk Miller over 10 yrs ago is still living off his Big footy fame! Have a crack, someone might bump this thread in 10 years time and you'll look like a genius!

That was a prediction of a player.

That wasn't some thread where the 12 year olds of 2008 were assessed and dissected within an inch of its life.

I concede it was premature to create a thread in the year a prospect turns 14 years old and start analysing and discussing from there.

I had sought permission last year (December roughly) for this thread to be reopened in the new year and it was to be mulled over but, as it's the new year, it seemed the perfect time to revive it.

In short, it wasn't issuesome.

Just an excited person hugely eager to create a thread albeit too early.

That is all.

 

[Tandy]

That was a prediction of a player.

That wasn't some thread where the 12 year olds of 2008 were assessed and dissected within an inch of its life.

I concede it was premature to create a thread in the year a prospect turns 14 years old and start analysing and discussing from there.

I had sought permission last year (December roughly) for this thread to be reopened in the new year and it was to be mulled over but, as it's the new year, it seemed the perfect time to revive it.

In short, it wasn't issuesome.

Just an excited person hugely eager to create a thread albeit too early.

That is all.

It's going to be interesting to take note of this particular draft crop now that we know it could define the first 10 years at Tas. U15 Vic championships if that's still a thing is always a good early indicator

 

[RedmanWasHere]

It's going to be interesting to take note of this particular draft crop now that we know it could define the first 10 years at Tas. U15 Vic championships if that's still a thing is always a good early indicator

It will indeed.

Question is how do you prioritise?

Of the players to seek, what's the positional breakdown and how many players per position?

Further, what's the ideal quantity of players per year of birth and what's the cut-off point of the oldest player/s?

The AFL would want Tassie to be competitive straight away (similar to Freo in 1995 and sort of similar to Port Adelaide in 1997 even though the Power lost its inaugural game to Collingwood by 79 points) instead of the Gold Coast and GWS like drubbings. (GWS in particular.)

2028 is no expectations.

2031-33 is when you'd expect some semblance of equal win-loss records with maybe a finals game.

2032-40 is when Tassie becomes just another team in the AFL.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Just spitballing here, say Tassie gets access to 48 players, something like this could work.

Def: 12.
Mid: 16.
Fwd: 12.
Rk: 8.

Perhaps too many ruckmen

 

[GC2015]

GC2015.

Welcome to this thread.

Thanks. This should be a very interesting draft class considering the ramifications it will have on the new Tasmanian team. Any word on whether Tassie are going to compete in the U15 National Championships this year?

Essendon fans will be happy to learn there's a father-son prospect named Koby Bewick coming through for them in this draft class and he's supposed to be pretty good.

Port Adelaide also have two father-son standouts coming through in this draft class in Percy Burgoyne and Tevita Rodan. Percy is of course also F/S tied to Hawthorn through his father Shaun.

My understanding is Suns academy member Taj Murray was the bottom age standout at the U15 National Championships last year and was named in the AA team. I'm guessing he'd be one of the front runners in this draft class at the moment.

 

[briztoon]

It will indeed.

Question is how do you prioritise?

Of the players to seek, what's the positional breakdown and how many players per position?

Further, what's the ideal quantity of players per year of birth and what's the cut-off point of the oldest player/s?

The AFL would want Tassie to be competitive straight away (similar to Freo in 1995 and sort of similar to Port Adelaide in 1997 even though the Power lost its inaugural game to Collingwood by 79 points) instead of the Gold Coast and GWS like drubbings. (GWS in particular.)

2028 is no expectations.

2031-33 is when you'd expect some semblance of equal win-loss records with maybe a finals game.

2032-40 is when Tassie becomes just another team in the AFL.

Plastic Club.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Plastic Club.

Nah not for me.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Any word on whether Tassie are going to compete in the U15 National Championships this year?

Participating States and Territories
Boys - ACT, NSW, QLD, SA, VIC, WA
Girls - ACT, NSW, QLD, SA, VIC, WA

-School Sport Aus website.

So guess not this year.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Essendon fans will be happy to learn there's a father-son prospect named Koby Bewick coming through for them in this draft class and he's supposed to be pretty good.

I'm happy about this but I'll want to keep it to a dull roar though eDPS has already started the conditioning.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Though it might be 3 years premature, do we think anywhere from 85-95 picks gets this draft done then about 80 picks in both, 2028 and 2029?

 

[Miller1971]

My understanding is Suns academy member Taj Murray was the bottom age standout at the U15 National Championships last year and was named in the AA team. I'm guessing he'd be one of the front runners in this draft class at the moment.

nah, he's not that good. The AA u15 side selection is a lottery, driven by negotiations between state coaches and non footy people.

The best 09 prospect in QLD is Max Boothey, followed probably by Archie Wilson from the Sunny Coast. Suns zone is comparatively week in the 2008 and 2009 born years, which is probably a relief for some thanks to the riches they get from 2005-2007 born players!

 

[Half Back Pocket]

Will be interested in seeing the makeup of the 2 Vic teams (I assume they field 2 teams) at the carnival. After following this age group for the last 6 years (particularly YJFL and lately APS and AGSV), I’d assume a few of the more developed players will be selected. Some of these kids are still very young in development and have a heap of growth ahead.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Will be interested in seeing the makeup of the 2 Vic teams (I assume they field 2 teams) at the carnival. After following this age group for the last 6 years (particularly YJFL and lately APS and AGSV), I’d assume a few of the more developed players will be selected. Some of these kids are still very young in development and have a heap of growth ahead.

Certainly gives the 2 Vic teams (and others) the opportunity to showcase their wares to Tassie.

 

[Haggas]

A crop of names I've accumulated

		2027 Draft
	NAME	POSITION	DOB	HEIGHT/WEIGHT	CLUB	AFF	AFF 2
Brisbane (Academy)	Maxwell Boothey	Ruck		200cm	Brisbane Academy/Allies	BRIS
Brisbane (Academy)	Tex Copeland				Brisbane Academy/Allies	BRIS
Brisbane (Academy)	Jackson Bridge				Brisbane Academy/Allies	BRIS
	Lachlan Ellen				Brisbane Academy/Allies
	Noah Rafter				Queensland/Allies
	Noah Cameron				Queensland/Allies
Gold Coast (Academy)	Taj Murray				Gold Coast Academy/Allies	GC
	Addison Stolz				Queensland/Allies
Sydney (Academy)	Hugh Taylor				Sydney Academy/Allies	SYD
	Laurence Andriani				South Australia
	Mitchell Brook				South Australia
Port Adel or Haw F/S	Percy Burgoyne				South Australia	PA	HAW
	Timothy Cain				South Australia
	Sebastian Cavallaro				South Australia
	Harvey Chapman				South Australia
	Jack Gaunt				South Australia
Geelong F/S	Oscar King				Victoria	GEEL
Geelong F/S	Monty Wojcinski				Victoria	GEEL
Richmond F/S	Archie Daffy				Victoria	RICH
	Tyce Griffin				Victoria
	Lincoln Brand				Victoria
	Jack Condello				Victoria
	Will Hamilton				Victoria
	Noah Hannegraaf				Victoria
	Dashiell Smith Nagambie				Victoria
	Max Thompson				Victoria
Port Adelaide F/S	Tevita Rodan				Victoria	PA
	Sachin Tyrrell				Victoria
	Archer Direen				Victoria
	Aydan Hand				Victoria
	Campbell McCarty				Victoria
	Colby Marr				Victoria
	Cooper Rand				Victoria
	Hugh Coulson				Victoria
	Joel Comensoli				Victoria
	Kaiden Wohlers				Victoria
	Leo Stephenson				Victoria
	Maurice Nihill				Victoria
	Max Connick				Victoria
	Riley Coundon				Victoria
	Riley Travaglia				Victoria
	Sonni Te Moananui				Victoria
	Ted Buchanan				Victoria
	Zavier Fowler				Victoria
Hawthorn NGA	Keenan Boi				Victoria	HAW
Essendon F/S	Kobe Bewick				Victoria	ESS
	Ryder Ham				Victoria
	Zac Hamer				Victoria
	Flynn Adler				Victoria
	Corey Ah-Mu				Victoria
	Jack Zammit				Victoria
	Will Broadbent				Victoria
	Angus Brown				Victoria
	Oliver Cape				Victoria
	James Douglas				Victoria
	Matthew Fairchild				Victoria
	Lachlan Harrop				Victoria
	Nate Jongan				Victoria
	Archer Lugudi				Victoria
	Noah Montgomery				Victoria
Carlton F/S	Riley Scotland				Victoria	CARL
North Melbourne F/S	Aiden McCartney				Victoria	NM
West Coast F/S	Marley Wirrpanda				Western Australia	WC
	Bayley Southam				Western Australia
	Tom Clements				Western Australia
	Gabriel Giltrow				Western Australia
	Ashton Nichols				Western Australia
	Jamual Miller				Western Australia
	Seth Del Caro				Western Australia
	Sullivan Williams				Western Australia
	Tyler Wilson				Western Australia
	Jacob Florido				Western Australia
	James Artemis				Western Australia
	Campbell Bishop				Western Australia
	Billy Hawkes				Western Australia
	Zach Armstrong				Western Australia
	Noah Howard				Western Australia
	Blake Jones				Western Australia
	Campbell Creyk				Western Australia
	Charlie Crotty				Western Australia
	Isaac Scott				Western Australia
	Jett Edwards				Western Australia
	Spencer Worts				Western Australia
	Cody Mannion				Western Australia
	Beau Mepham				Western Australia
	Angus Abbonizio				Subiaco/Western Australia