umpire ought to be strung up

[Bojangles17]

after calling play on after cuz was concussed by a shirtfront to the head....how could that imbecile not interpret it as headhigh contact...perhaps we need to arrange for a few volunteers to dish out similar treatment at this weeks ump training for the message to sink in...and if it wasn't enough, I went bezerk when the game breaking free was paid to the wimp that played possum after a guaney love tap to the bread basket...gimmee a break

 

[mcuzzy]

Hmm, dunno about this, wasn't really an unfair bump I don't reckon.

Was a scare seeing him lying on the ground not moving though, think a few of the players got a bit shocked

 

[Bojangles17]

Hmm, dunno about this, wasn't really an unfair bump I don't reckon.

there was contact to the head mate...err, umm, that's deemed a FREE kick by the RULES

 

[bringbackmodra]

I've just watched that incident in extra slow motion.

Definitely too high on Cuz and should be looked at by the match review panel. Contact was to the head & neck & knocked him out before he hit the ground. If there wasn't contact to Ben's head he wouldn't have been knocked out before his head hit the ground.

It doesn't matter that Buddy didn't raise his elbow, high contact is high contact. We MUST protect the player with the ball. I really do fear that someone will end up in a wheelchair one day and believe me thats not fun.

 

[TimmehJC"]

I've just watched that incident in extra slow motion.

Definitely too high on Cuz and should be looked at by the match review panel. Contact was to the head & neck & knocked him out before he hit the ground. If there wasn't contact to Ben's head he wouldn't have been knocked out before his head hit the ground.

It doesn't matter that Buddy didn't raise his elbow, high contact is high contact. We MUST protect the player with the ball. I really do fear that someone will end up in a wheelchair one day and believe me thats not fun.

Free kick, yeah, high contact, was there. Report, umm no, Buddy got down low, was attempting a fair bump, cousins was upright (not bent over the ball or anything), just as Buddy came in Cuz was attempting to change direction, therefor head was a bit lower than normal, enough for his jaw to just catch the shoulder.
Guessing the ump was unsighted on the high contact (watch certain replays its obvious, other not so.)

And as far as McGuane's free against, we have Jordy lewis and Simon Taylor, we see those every week (Daniel Pratt, I'm looking at you)

Wheelchair comment is ridiculous, not much threat to the neck in that collision, thats more an issue when a player has his head over the ball.

 

[Bojangles17]

Free kick, yeah, high contact, was there. Report, umm no, Buddy got down low, was attempting a fair bump, cousins was upright (not bent over the ball or anything), just as Buddy came in Cuz was attempting to change direction, therefor head was a bit lower than normal, enough for his jaw to just catch the shoulder..

agree with all that not suggesting a report for a minute, buddy took as much care as he could, irrespective, head high contact is a Free kick, was reprehensible it was ignored by the umpire

 

[CQTiger]

the only way you know it was head high is that cuz didn't get up quickly. The umpire does have to make a split second decision (without the add of 10 replays) He cant wait and award a free 15 secs later after seeing cuz is dazed and interpret it as head high because of the outcome.
Buddy will probably get his just desserts from the video replay but in his defense his elbow was down

 

[bringbackmodra]

Free kick, yeah, high contact, was there. Report, umm no, Buddy got down low, was attempting a fair bump, cousins was upright (not bent over the ball or anything), just as Buddy came in Cuz was attempting to change direction, therefor head was a bit lower than normal, enough for his jaw to just catch the shoulder.
Guessing the ump was unsighted on the high contact (watch certain replays its obvious, other not so.)

And as far as McGuane's free against, we have Jordy lewis and Simon Taylor, we see those every week (Daniel Pratt, I'm looking at you)

Wheelchair comment is ridiculous, not much threat to the neck in that collision, thats more an issue when a player has his head over the ball.[/quote]

No my wheelchair comment wasn't ridiculous. I wasn't implying that in this case it could happen. But the player with the ball must always be protected.

 

[Kapital city TIGER]

McGuane obviously frustrated - was doing ok but gives away some stupid ones
Cuz was hardly going to be able to kick it anyway but shoulda got a free for head high - hardly the Umps best game vs us tho.
Franklin got stiffed once or twice too.

 

[TimmehJC"]

No my wheelchair comment wasn't ridiculous. I wasn't implying that in this case it could happen. But the player with the ball must always be protected.

This is a thread about a certain incident, and the wheelchair comment did not belong. Buddy took all the care he could, got him high, free kick, no different to a high tackle. Contact sport, its going to happen sometimes. If he goes for that our game is a joke (some argue that it already is at times).

Bojangles, you're a voice of reason. Umpires had a pretty bad night, never seen the advantage call used to such disadvantage.

Just a late edit here, instead of another post. Just saw the Rance hit on Buddy, troubles for the young man.

 

[bringbackmodra]

Actually my comments do belong on this thread because its about a player that was hit with a head high bump.
Buddy had a choice bump or tackle, he chose to bump.

 

[TimmehJC"]

Actually my comments do belong on this thread because its about a player that was hit with a head high bump.
Buddy had a choice bump or tackle, he chose to bump.

SO you admit that there was no real risk for spinal injury in the incident, yet believe the wheelchair comments were relevant? Strange strange unit.

 

[deliberate!!]

Just out of curiosity...does Buddy bump the guys his equal in stature and weight?

Hmmm...

 

[TimmehJC"]

Just out of curiosity...does Buddy bump the guys his equal in stature and weight?

Hmmm...

There aren't too many of those around, but I'm sure he was weighing that up in his mind for the whole second he thought about it.

 

[Spagman]

It doesn't matter that Buddy didn't raise his elbow, high contact is high contact. We MUST protect the player with the ball.

Exactly. Buddy wasn't to blame, he's taller and Cousins head hit Buddy's shoulder, while not reportable at all, it should have been a free kick to Richmond. That's an absolute give and while I normally don't bitch about umpires, I hope whoever the umpire was who was closest gets dragged over the coals.

They have a duty to protect players and on that occasion he failed miserably.

 

[bringbackmodra]

Justice is served. Franklin gone for one week.

 

[Bojangles17]

Justice is served. Franklin gone for one week.

hmm, i noticed that, well that just rounds off a year where Ive been wrong every time with my footy calls beginning with tigers would be in for a BIG year to Buddy would be ok...what would I know

 

[TimmehJC"]

We'll string the MRP up next to the umpire. I'm really not happy with this. Should be overturned when challenged.

 

[Bojangles17]

We'll string the MRP up next to the umpire. I'm really not happy with this. Should be overturned when challenged.

lol, i agree BH...cuzz had the ball, the incident was in play...i thought suspensions were reserved for either LATE or OFF the ball...then again what would I know, last I saw the knob umpiring didnt even think it warranted a FREE kick at the time

 

[bringbackmodra]

Lance Franklin, Hawthorn, has been charged with a Level Two engaging in rough conduct offence against Ben Cousins, Richmond, during the third quarter of the Round 21 match between Hawthorn and Richmond, played at the MCG on Saturday August 22, 2009.
In summary, he can accept a one-match sanction with an early plea.

The incident was assessed as negligent conduct (one point), medium impact (two points) and high contact (two points). This is a total of five activation points resulting in the classification of a Level Two offence, drawing 225 demerit points and a two-match sanction. He has no existing good or bad record.
An early plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 168.75 points and a one-match sanction.


Negligent & high contact.

End of story.


Suffer Frankin, next time tackle.

 

[TimmehJC"]

Not over until the appeal or guilty plea champ. MRP gets plenty wrong. The rule as it stands was bought it to protect players with their head over the ball, and as been bastardised into this thing we have now.

 

[Joelie]

Lance Franklin, Hawthorn, has been charged with a Level Two engaging in rough conduct offence against Ben Cousins, Richmond, during the third quarter of the Round 21 match between Hawthorn and Richmond, played at the MCG on Saturday August 22, 2009.
In summary, he can accept a one-match sanction with an early plea.

The incident was assessed as negligent conduct (one point), medium impact (two points) and high contact (two points). This is a total of five activation points resulting in the classification of a Level Two offence, drawing 225 demerit points and a two-match sanction. He has no existing good or bad record.
An early plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 168.75 points and a one-match sanction.


Negligent & high contact.

End of story.


Suffer Frankin, next time tackle.

At least he keeps it on field against men. SUFFER Bock. Next time think before hitting a woman.
ps.. what ever did happen to Kris Massie.... ha ha ha ha ha......

 

[GhostofJimJess]

the only way you know it was head high is that cuz didn't get up quickly. The umpire does have to make a split second decision (without the add of 10 replays) He cant wait and award a free 15 secs later after seeing cuz is dazed and interpret it as head high because of the outcome.

Come off it mate, even when I watched it on a TV screen later on itwas clear Cousins head was flung back on contact. His head is shoulder high on Franklin FFS.

It was clearly, CLEARLY a free kick, and one of the worst non-decisions for the season. Seems you only have to throw yourself backwards at the slightest contact at a stoppage (ala Hodge Q1) to warrant a free kick, but almost getting your head knocked off needs some sort of two-thirds majority from the umpires.

As for the report? By the standards pre-Maxwell, no. Post-Maxwell criteria means Franklins gaawwn (which is a damn shame because I have him in my D/T grand final team from this weekend, and my trades are gaawwn).

 

[Darth_Tiger]

i dont know about the rest of you but i would rather have the free kick than a suspension. so typical that umps dont think its worthy of a free but the tribunal thinks its worthy of a suspension.

 

[Tazzytiger]

Not over until the appeal or guilty plea champ. MRP gets plenty wrong. The rule as it stands was bought it to protect players with their head over the ball, and as been bastardised into this thing we have now.

Buddy is a thug and plays the same way... deserves everything he gets... lined Cousins up and gave it to him. I hope they contest and he gets three LMAO..