Umpiring

[LTT]

I just watched footy extra on the afl site where Laura explains the weekend decisions.
They show the touched behind that was paid a goal with clear vision the ball is touched, but apparently the ARC didn't have time to clearly pick this up before the bounce of the ball.
Yet they had clear proof to over rule the Lynch goal which no one else has ever seen, apart from Dimma supposedly I a behind closed doors meeting......
She also says the non 50 should have been called play on, but then ticks off the 50 against the saints for a player moving on the mark.
Absolute farce.

The thing that amazes me is that in the explanation she says the umpire should have called play-on. That may or may not have been true but that statement acknowledges the fact that the umpire DID NOT call play-on therefore the Collingwood players ran over the mark before the umpire called play on and that is a 50 metre penalty. Her statement is acknowledging that the Collingwood players should have been penalised but seems to be saying that it was ok because this was the umpires second mistake and somehow the first mistake cancelled out the second mistake. Seriously?

 

[Punt rd end]

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Is this chick making this crap up herself or is she a mouth piece for the boys club

 

[LTT]

I really just don't understand why they don't just piss the nomination thing off.

If more than 1 player from each side contests the ruck then it's a free against.
If a player blocks the ruck it's a free against.

Pretty bloody simple I would have thought. The ruck nomination and current rules are complete garbage.

Sort out the other rules like "holding the ball" and "dropping the ball" and take away 'no prior opportunity" when a player handballs to a teammate that is immediately tackled. For out of bounds penalise the last team to touch the ball and keep "insufficient intent" to stop players sheparding the ball out. The other ones are "in the back" "holding the man without the ball" and "sheparding more than 5 metres from the ball". Go back to the rules like they were 20 years ago. The AFL have introduced all these vague rules to allow umpire to keep the ball moving. The umpires job is to enforce the rules not to make the game flow. Now nobody knows what the rules are, and the umpires are now significantly influencing games. Make the rules clear and simple and easy to interpret. The players will adjust, and the umpires will become invisible again.

 

[Hank Heavenly]

Fact: Umpires are still employed and train part time.
Fact: Umpires haven’t had permanent training facilities for 5 years.

Fact: 4 umpires has NOT improved adjudication of the game.

Fact 1 : Plenty of people don't earn $100k+. Whilst it is technically part time to them as most of them have other jobs, the amount they earn suggests it's now at a point where the league start demanding (and transitioning over say a 5 year period) umpires become Full Time. even if thats increased from $150k up to $200k, I would actually support it. Then they could spend a day a week down at clubs, they could develop lower league umpires, the U18's could move to Wed nights (great for TV rights as well) and one FT AFL ump with 2 lower level umps.... Making it worthwhile and having the workload is easily created

Fact 2 : The league own Marvel, there is absolutley no excuse as to not have a training venue. They should train there for the majority fo the year. They would need a stand-by venue for when Marvel hosts midweek events (but again, if they are full time, the venue should be available during the day, or umps go out to club land when Marvel not available)

Fact 3 : CORRECT!!!

 

[Dr Tigris]

Is this chick making this crap up herself or is she a mouth piece for the boys club

Yes

 

[Dr Tigris]

I just watched footy extra on the afl site where Laura explains the weekend decisions.
They show the touched behind that was paid a goal with clear vision the ball is touched, but apparently the ARC didn't have time to clearly pick this up before the bounce of the ball.
Yet they had clear proof to over rule the Lynch goal which no one else has ever seen, apart from Dimma supposedly I a behind closed doors meeting......
She also says the non 50 should have been called play on, but then ticks off the 50 against the saints for a player moving on the mark.
Absolute farce.

yeah that explanation immediately led to > no call therefore mark and not play one therefore 2 players over the mark therefore 50m.

But in AFL heads one thing means that they can just ignore the rest.

the thing that amazes me is that this is now being called out. The Richmond situation is still ignored, but if they fix up umpiring in general then our situation should get better. Hopefully.

 

[shaky]

The thing that amazes me is that in the explanation she says the umpire should have called play-on. That may or may not have been true but that statement acknowledges the fact that the umpire DID NOT call play-on therefore the Collingwood players ran over the mark before the umpire called play on and that is a 50 metre penalty. Her statement is acknowledging that the Collingwood players should have been penalised but seems to be saying that it was ok because this was the umpires second mistake and somehow the first mistake cancelled out the second mistake. Seriously?

She is just confirming that the umps may pick and choose and make it up as they go, the AFL will then back them in regardless of what the decision was.

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

Lol..75,000 isnow a common attendance says BT...

 

[Muddiemoose]

The thing that amazes me is that in the explanation she says the umpire should have called play-on. That may or may not have been true but that statement acknowledges the fact that the umpire DID NOT call play-on therefore the Collingwood players ran over the mark before the umpire called play on and that is a 50 metre penalty. Her statement is acknowledging that the Collingwood players should have been penalised but seems to be saying that it was ok because this was the umpires second mistake and somehow the first mistake cancelled out the second mistake. Seriously?

I’m obviously not a fan of Stewart but I struggle to understand how he gets pinged for this based on what we saw last week

No instruction for Stewart to stand and anticipating a play on so should be fair game shouldn’t it?

The AFL have created a complete mess

 

[SDMTiger4]

Is this chick making this crap up herself or is she a mouth piece for the boys club

They just make up the narrative to deflect from the blatant errors being made. The explanation on the non-50m was an absolute disgrace. All it does is highlight their incompetence. You can just imagine the frantic phone calls and meetings that took place to come up with some excuse. They should all be in politics, as they never directly answer the questions being posed to them. Surely, someone with any brains in the organisation should have played devils advocate, and thrown up the fact raised by anyone with any understanding of the rules, that if they didn't call play on (as THEY believe should have happened), it's 2 players over the mark, and an automatic 50m, so the excuses they had come up with in their think tank wouldn't carry, so they had better come up with one that actually had substance, before offering up thei crap excuse to the media.
It's just another example of people in positions way out of their depth.

 

[SDMTiger4]

I’m obviously not a fan of Stewart but I struggle to understand how he gets pinged for this based on what we saw last week

No instruction for Stewart to stand and anticipating a play on so should be fair game shouldn’t it?

The AFL have created a complete mess

It's just a farce, and has made watching the game so frustrating. There is no consistency in anything now, (apart from the grubby way we play and therefore any excuse for a free against us is warranted), and after a decision like that one, your mind spends the next 5 minutes trawling through the examples of decisions that have been paid the opposite way for the same thing. And that can be in the same game, same round, ..... It's almost like someone in the box is spinning a wheel, and whatever decision it lands on, that is relayed to the field umpire to pay.
Does your head in.

 

[Muddiemoose]

It's just a farce, and has made watching the game so frustrating. There is no consistency in anything now, (apart from the grubby way we play and therefore any excuse for a free against us is warranted), and after a decision like that one, your mind spends the next 5 minutes trawling through the examples of decisions that have been paid the opposite way for the same thing. And that can be in the same game, same round, ..... It's almost like someone in the box is spinning a wheel, and whatever decision it lands on, that is relayed to the field umpire to pay.
Does your head in.

100% it’s all about the inconsistency

Some rules I can’t stand but if it’s applied properly and consistently at least I can take solace in the fact that every team is getting shafted by the shit rule

But as it stands it’s literally a lucky dip in essentially every single contest on the ground depending on the umpires mood at the time

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

Game has never been in a better state...

 

[SDMTiger4]

I’m obviously not a fan of Stewart but I struggle to understand how he gets pinged for this based on what we saw last week

No instruction for Stewart to stand and anticipating a play on so should be fair game shouldn’t it?

The AFL have created a complete mess

Maybe you missed the point? Should have been obvious. The 50m went Carlton's way...of course!

 

[SunshineBoy]

Game has never been in a better state...

Lol

 

[TigFan1966]

Kelvin Templeton on 3AW saying he was told 45mins before the brownlow medal count that he had won it, even though Mayne Nicholas had brought in the votes to be counted. He called it the Mayne Nicholas charade.

 

[Mr Unbelievable]

Game has never been in a better state...

 

[SunshineBoy]

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asking about the 70 meter penalties, the natives are becoming restless

 

[tora tora tora]

Lol..75,000 isnow a common attendance says BT...

for prime time carlton when they're up and about

 

[Groupie_]

WTF does she mean "Diversify"? What context? We need the umpires to go full time with full pay and become accountable. We don't need to "diversify" anything. Sounds like woke garbage to me.

how long before a hannah mouncey is umpiring

 

[Groupie_]

some druggies supporter rang 3aw and said umpires ream essendon cos they hate them and are colonwood and carltoon fans

wtf druggies are second for free kicks with brad sook as coach

imagine u are a carltoon colonwood or druggies fans and think you get a raw deal from the umps , meanwhile rfc been dead bottom of the count for years

 

[SunshineBoy]

how long before a hannah mouncey is umpiring

Isn’t Laura actually Hannah?

 

[Grin]

Dimma gameplan eh??
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The irony that the Damien Hardwick coached side now gets the most positive umpiring differential is lost on no one on this board.

 

[Groupie_]

Dimma gameplan eh??
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wtf -77 thats absolutely mental and not normal

 

[SDMTiger4]

wtf -77 thats absolutely mental and not normal

Yeah, so much for "the way that Dimma's sides play" as an excuse for the tigers being at the bottom of the differential ladder for so many years.
Couldn't have anything to do with the AFL desperately wanting the Dimma move up north to succeed, could it?
Surely, the CFL couldn't have a hand in it?