Unique DT Players

[Crow_68]

Scott Selwood - now playing a more offensive role, will never be tagged due to skills not being at an elite level, and tackles for fun.

 

[Benno_900]

If Selwood was a back, he'd have been one of the most popular picks this season. Will average 85+ IMO.

 

[Blues_FC]

Now that we have seen a few teams play in the 1st rd of the NAB cup, what unique player selections are you currently considering?

Can be mid-pricers or cheapies...'under the rader' types

Atm I'm looking at...

Yarran: Could be a good pick-up.

Beau Waters: Was underpriced last year, but I think he's fully priced now and won't end up in the top 7 backs by year's end.

T.Dennis-Lane: Pre-season prick-tease.

Jason Winderlich: No opinion

Others could be..


Clinton Jones: Only if not a tagger. But he will be a tagger, because he's the best in the comp.

Ben Howlett: Second year blues. Isn't likely to increase scoring enough to be worth picking.

Justin Sherman: Personally can't see a huge amount of upside.

Brad Sheppard: Keep an eye on him.

Jorden Gysberts: If last year is anything to go by, he will play a couple of games where he scores over 100 DT points by kicking the ball to the other team. Then he gets dropped.

Andrew Strijk: Second year blues.

Josh Hunt: Fully priced.


Thoughts?

My general thoughts are that you've listed quite a few players who would have been great pick-ups last year. These players' ships have well and truly sailed. They had their year of improvement last year, and there ain't much left.

 

[Shane Hird]

What about these young players who didn't play a full season last year but showed promise...opinions?


Mitch Banner

Liam Anthony

Shaun Grigg

Jarryd Blair

Luke Shuey

Mitchell Duncan

Simon Hogan

Chris Masten

Gary Rohan

Chris Mayne

Ben Warren

Also one player who impressed last weekend at Subi was Ben Stratton (20 games 2010 avg 59.3). What do HFC fans think he'll do this year after his decent form last season?

 

[Cynic]

What about these young players who didn't play a full season last year but showed promise...opinions?


Mitch Banner

Liam Anthony

Shaun Grigg

Jarryd Blair

Luke Shuey

Mitchell Duncan

Simon Hogan

Chris Masten

Gary Rohan

Chris Mayne

Ben Warren

Also one player who impressed last weekend at Subi was Ben Stratton (20 games 2010 avg 59.3). What do HFC fans think he'll do this year after his decent form last season?

He's likely capable to play a Fisher role and score just as freely. However in our backline he's too good a man on man defender to be given jobs that allow him much freedom. In short, avoid.

 

[Hawkinspired]

Someone will pop up from Hawthorns midfield. I'm more inclined to think Sam Mitchell will improve now that he has dished off the captaincy. Sewell, Bruce and even Burgoyne could all be handy pickups. Price wise, Whitecross is a smokey. 240K - Can be selected as a defender and a monty to play every game this year.

 

[Borshk]

K Cornes anyone ?
Durable,consistant 95-100 ave,no bye till Rd 12 (well after Gablett has finished his.)
Occupy a premium 400K+ mid spot for the season without a bye,at the cost of 1
trade.

Not a bad option really. He will give you 22 games and Port have an extremely easy fixture- dt wise. Could well average 105

He plays Adelaide, Collingwood, Hawks, Melbourne, North Melbourne, West Coast all twice. He historically chopps it against all of those teams except the crows really.

Would be a fairly unique pick this year and could pay off heaps.

 

[Dunn - Well Done]

Someone will pop up from Hawthorns midfield. I'm more inclined to think Sam Mitchell will improve now that he has dished off the captaincy. Sewell, Bruce and even Burgoyne could all be handy pickups. Price wise, Whitecross is a smokey. 240K - Can be selected as a defender and a monty to play every game this year.

Im thinking the same as you, whether its Hodge going to that 110+ level or Mitchell hitting 110 or Sewell bouncing back to 100+. Or is it new freak Rioli pushing 100.

Im pretty sure one will its just a matter of which one, unfortunatly we didnt get to see enough of the hawks real best players, hopefully they stay in the comp for next week and play some best 22 players for next nab games and hopefully shown on tv.

 

[Wheedus]

Im thinking the same as you, whether its Hodge going to that 110+ level or Mitchell hitting 110 or Sewell bouncing back to 100+. Or is it new freak Rioli pushing 100.

Im pretty sure one will its just a matter of which one, unfortunatly we didnt get to see enough of the hawks real best players, hopefully they stay in the comp for next week and play some best 22 players for next nab games and hopefully shown on tv.

Coming back to one of your earlier posts, you're right about the 4th MID. Like everyone, I've experimented with a lot of structures but it always seems to come down to that spot and whether you go with an under valued premium (eg Mitchell, Cross et al) who ultimately becomes your 6th MID or look at a mid pricer (the horror!) who achieves the 15-20 improvement and you turn into a premium for the 6th MID. Decisions decisions.

 

[Behemoth87]

Michael Rischitelli is a name that I haven't seen in any teams from what I can remember. However I think it might be due to the fact that he's in that awkward price range where he's not quite mid priced but he's not quite a premium.

 

[Mr Gor]

I don't think anyone will be selecting a GC player above 160k

 

[LFC2010]

K Cornes anyone ?
Durable,consistant 95-100 ave,no bye till Rd 12 (well after Gablett has finished his.)
Occupy a premium 400K+ mid spot for the season without a bye,at the cost of 1
trade.

I'm going to have him, love the fact he has no bye till rnd 12, and yes he's always a unique pick despite the fact he's never missed a game for 6 years.

 

[jjcs]

Leueueueuenburger isn't going to be massively popular (unless he smashes it up the NAB).

But I like him for the following reasons:

• cracking end to the season last year;
• Mitch Clark has been earmarked for FF, so it looks like Leuy will be spending a fair bit of time in the ruck (was this the reason for his increase in scoring last year?); and
• injury concerns look to be past him.

Not sure how the sub rule will affect him... does he come off and Clark into the ruck in the 4th?

 

[Mr Gor]

Another reason I've got Leueueennenberger is that Brisbane's bye weeks are bye weeks for DT leagues too (Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, and Freo are in the same boat), so he helps with the league win, especially in the ruck possie where a backup would score much less.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

I'm not sure why uniqueness is such a big issue.

Even if you had to pick 33 blokes from a group of 40 - you'd still have 18million combinations - and that excludes the subsequent odds of then picking a best 22, a captain and then trades on top.

 

[Hu$tler]

Sherman might slot into he Dogs midfield nicely. He scored 100 in a half a few seasons ago so can definately score big.

Suban perhaps?

 

[bombermick]

I'm not sure why uniqueness is such a big issue.

Even if you had to pick 33 blokes from a group of 40 - you'd still have 18million combinations - and that excludes the subsequent odds of then picking a best 22, a captain and then trades on top.

This partly true, as there are still thousands of combinations, even if most teams have many of the same players. However, if you can find the right uniques it could win you the car. Imagine picking Rischa and Jack last year, in addition to all the right backs (Waters etc)!

 

[nameless]

Yeah, dunno about uniques, I always go them, I'm just stubborn. I currently have jack as 4th mid, should go bartel as he's a lot safer...but just want to have someone different...

 

[jonoman89]

Uniques are overatted. Pick the best team you can full stop.

Unique-ness should only enter the equation when you've got a genuine 50/50 call to make.

 

[Mr Gor]

I guess I usually go for the league win, but picking different players makes things more interesting overall. The only real run-of-the-mill players I'm happy to get are the rookies and the no-brainer premiums (e.g. Goddard) or cheapies (e.g. Ottens).

 

[The Falcon Strike]

This partly true, as there are still thousands of combinations, even if most teams have many of the same players. However, if you can find the right uniques it could win you the car. Imagine picking Rischa and Jack last year, in addition to all the right backs (Waters etc)!

That's the point - if you were inclined to pick Rischa and Jack - the likelihood is you'd have some other uniques in your team that didn't come up - and the chances of someone nailing those two players and getting everything else right would be in the billions.

If each line had just say 12 "red hot players to choose from" - there'd be 66, different combinations per line - meaning there would be 10+ million combinations - even with such a limited field.

The number of player combinations are so high, worrying about uniqueness is such a non-issue. Players are generally popular for a reason - i.e they are undervalued for what we know they can produce.

Sure there has been some that haven't come off - but for every Raines - there's been a Waters. I don't think you would get the same odds with players of the ilk of Rischi and Jack

 

[Opportunity Cost]

This partly true, as there are still thousands of combinations, even if most teams have many of the same players. However, if you can find the right uniques it could win you the car. Imagine picking Rischa and Jack last year, in addition to all the right backs (Waters etc)!

Neither Jack and Rischa had a good start to the season DT wise. Would have been traded out before they really started to hit top form.

 

[Valli]

for a team to win overall, does one assume the team must contain several unique players? Or more mainstream and then it comes down to the trading?

 

[Valli]

Robbie Gray - No one will pick him after being burnt last year, but this year he has had an injury free pre-season aside from a quad scare last week... Apparently trained magnificently today in pouring rain. If he play midfield he could avg.90, forward avg.more like 60-70.. However can score big up forward (120 v Adelaide last year)

 

[normski]

for a team to win overall, does one assume the team must contain several unique players? Or more mainstream and then it comes down to the trading?

I've listed the starting team for last years overall team. Judge for yourself, but I'd say it comes down to trading

BAC:
Goddard (K)
Enright (K)
Goodwin
Hodge
Malceski (K)
Kennelly
Waters (K)
Farmer (K)
Maguire
CTR:
Swan (K)
Ablett (K)
Bartel (K)
Ball
D. Martin (K)
Barlow
Jetta
Banner
RUC:
Hille
Leuenberger
Warnock (K)
Skipper (K)
FWD:
Chapman (K)
N. Riewoldt
Harvey (K)
Gray
Medhurst
Hall
Peterson
Hitchcock
Gumbleton
K = Kept in team for all 22 rounds