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Simpletons (the casual fan) still think he's some kind of freak.

I'd almost argue that MJ is overrated but it's not really my opinion just a way of stirring the pot. I don't agree with the way people make it out as:

Jordan






Magic, Bird, Russell, Kareem etc





Shaq, Big O etc

Definitely a closer gap between Jordan, Magic, Russell, Bird, Kareem. Not Bird or Magic's fault that their careers were cut short. Plus the 90s was crippled by expansion.

I'll now see myself out before the jod meltdown.

Nah the only person who as an argument against MJ is KAJ.
 
Scottie Pippen would not have been a top 50 player without MJ and should not have been. Dominique Wilkins is and always will be the better player and leaving him out of the top 50 in 96 was a discgrace.
So much no. Wilkins was a great player and I do agree he should have been named in the top 50 of all time, probably in place of Shaq. But he wasnt a better player than Pippen. Pippen could go both ways, is one of the greatest defenders of all time. Wilkins could score like crazy but Pippen was a far better player, more intelligent, miles better defensively and could still score.

If anything Pippen is underrated because he was always in the shadow of Jordan.
 
Simpletons (the casual fan) still think he's some kind of freak.

I'd almost argue that MJ is overrated but it's not really my opinion just a way of stirring the pot. I don't agree with the way people make it out as:

Jordan






Magic, Bird, Russell, Kareem etc





Shaq, Big O etc

Definitely a closer gap between Jordan, Magic, Russell, Bird, Kareem. Not Bird or Magic's fault that their careers were cut short. Plus the 90s was crippled by expansion.

I'll now see myself out before the jod meltdown.
Their is a gap bro. It was his mentality that set him apart. His drive and will to win was unprecedented. Could do everything at a super high level. GOAT.
 
If I could pick one player to start an NBA team with from throughout history, it'd be a young David Robinson
Why? That's so stupid.

Not even talking about your small players like Jordan, Magic, Bird, but going straight to big men and you would take several over Robinson like Wilt, Russell, Kareem, Olajuwon, Shaq, Duncan, Ewing.
 
From the modern NBA era (so roughly Magic/Bird onwards), who would you have above Garnett, and who would be roughly on a par? Just curious

Does Magic and Bird count? So from like 1980 onwards?

Magic
Bird
Isiah
M.Malone
Dr.J
Kareem
Barkley
G.Hill
Jordan
Pippen
Shaq
Kobe
Duncan
Dirk
Ewing
Robinson
Olajuwon
K.Malone
Iverson
Stockton
G.Hill
KD35
LeBron


That was just off the top of my head.
 
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Oscar Robertson's triple double season is not that impressive when you consider that almost every game was played at faster than All-Star game pace and with about as much defense. Both Magic Johnson and LeBron James have had more impressive all-round statistical seasons.

Kobe Bryant's 81 point game is the best scoring performance in the history of the league but not necessarily the best game.

Isiah Thomas is the most overrated player.
1. Anyway you look at it, averaging a triple double for a whole season is ridiculous.

2. Kobe had like 64 points with 5 minutes remaining at home against a poor Raptors team and they were up by 10/11 points. Think he hit a three to make it 67 points and a 14 point lead with 4 minutes to go. He played the rest of the game. They gave him the ball every time down the floor. He was padding his numbers on purpose. KD had 41 after 4 quarters about a week ago but OKC were well in front so he didnt play at all in the last quarter. He could have easily played, asked for the ball and shot 3's and tried to score 60 or 70.

Jordan could have done the same numerous times throughout his career. Having 55 in three quarters then sitting. Plus it was a regular season game against the Raptors. I think NBA Finals or playoffs and big scoring games are more impressive. They really mean something.

3. How is Isiah overrated? What a warrior and won back to back titles in an extremely tough era of basketball. Probably the second greatest PF of all time.
 
3. How is Isiah overrated? What a warrior and won back to back titles in an extremely tough era of basketball. Probably the second greatest PF of all time.

I'm a lifelong Pistons fan, but I can see why someone would make the case for Isiah being overrated.

He played his last NBA game 11 days before his 33rd birthday, and regressed rapidly due to injury in his final year. He wasn't a good outside shooter, and turned the ball over a ridiculous amount for a top point guard (averaged 3.8 turnovers per game for his career, and his actual turnover rate per possession was very high too). His high assist numbers were as much a testament to the pace of the game during his heyday (the Pistons were one of the fastest paced teams in a fast-paced, high scoring era in the early '80s, and were one of the slowest-paced teams in the late '80s/early '90s, but their pace then would make them one of the fastest-paced teams in the league today) and his high usage rate as they were to great distribution and great point guard play. He was also a pretty inefficient shooter/scorer considering the volume of touches he got too. In a way, his game was kind of like Stephon Marbury, with a bit of Allen Iverson mixed in.

Sure, Isiash was tough, strong-willed and a great leader, and a part of some great teams, and all those things that don't show up in the box score, but if you want to really break it down, I can definitely see why someone might call him overrated compared to other great point guards.

Also, on MJ being overrated - I'd say he's overrated in the sense that he's not as "untouchable" as he's made out to be, and the gap between he and others (in particular, he and LeBron) is smaller than most will admit.
 

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Marbury, Iverson?

The guy won back to back titles in an era surrounded by Bird, Magic and Jordan.

He was a hell of leader, mentally tough, hell of a defender. I think Isiah Thomas is underrated. He was the superstar on a team that broke the dominance of Magic/Bird and held Jordan at bay for two years.

Great player and IMO the second best PG of all time.
 
Marbury, Iverson?

His style of play was like a combination of both.

The guy won back to back titles in an era surrounded by Bird, Magic and Jordan.

He was a hell of leader, mentally tough, hell of a defender. I think Isiah Thomas is underrated. He was the superstar on a team that broke the dominance of Magic/Bird and held Jordan at bay for two years.

Great player and IMO the second best PG of all time.

Yeah, nah, wouldn't rate him as highly as that.
 
Marbury, Iverson?

The guy won back to back titles in an era surrounded by Bird, Magic and Jordan.

He was a hell of leader, mentally tough, hell of a defender. I think Isiah Thomas is underrated. He was the superstar on a team that broke the dominance of Magic/Bird and held Jordan at bay for two years.

Great player and IMO the second best PG of all time.

Stockton, Big O and Magic would be ahead of him.
 
1. Anyway you look at it, averaging a triple double for a whole season is ridiculous.

2. Kobe had like 64 points with 5 minutes remaining at home against a poor Raptors team and they were up by 10/11 points. Think he hit a three to make it 67 points and a 14 point lead with 4 minutes to go. He played the rest of the game. They gave him the ball every time down the floor. He was padding his numbers on purpose.

I don't know if you've ever watched Kobe's 81pt game but Lakers were losing by a bit to them in the third and Kobe singlehandedly won the game for LA.
 
I believe Blake Griffin is extremely overrated, and the Clippers would be better off if they traded him.
I think he gets hyped up as the best PF in the game unfairly, Plays in a Thriving LA team, Excellent cast around him, Plays with the best PG in the game

He's not as good as Aldridge/Love, However current production he's passed Bosh/Dirk, Apart from him being very athletic he's starting to put a post game together and he's got as good handles as any big man in the league, He's a very poor defender however
 
Where Griffin was previously overrated his last few months have been spectacular and I view him as a top 5 players in this span of time.

TODAY he is the best PF in basketball. (excluding LeBron if you classify him as a 4)
 
I think he gets hyped up as the best PF in the game unfairly, Plays in a Thriving LA team, Excellent cast around him, Plays with the best PG in the game

He's not as good as Aldridge/Love, However current production he's passed Bosh/Dirk, Apart from him being very athletic he's starting to put a post game together and he's got as good handles as any big man in the league, He's a very poor defender however
Way way better defensively than love, I know that gets said a lot but his defense is really that bad

Yep, passed bosh and dirk.

LMA is a touch closer but I'd probably have flake just ahead on this season
 

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