Autopsy US Election Day Thread - Trump 47th President of the United States

[Chief]

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[Chief]

But not being aware of any of it until the day of the election?

True.

 

[Sir_Loin]

They rate civility above all else.

When he lost 2020 he spat the dummy and didn’t do anything to help the transition. He’s an 80 year old man child

 

[H00t]

Roe v Wade is not law, it is (was) a legal precedent. The US Federal Government had no impact on it and the Republicans have repeatedly indicated they will not be putting in place Federal abortion laws. You have been propagandized.

The legal precedent that it was a constitutional right to have an abortion.

Since then 13 states have effectively banned it. While more have limited timeframes in which it can occur.

After repeatedly saying it wouldn’t be repealed it was the republican judges on who overturned it.

They will say they won’t be putting federal laws in place up until the moment they do it. If they get the opportunity to do it they will.

For now they are happy to let the states cause as much suffering as they can.

 

[Chief]

The same guy who went on racist tangents for 10 minutes straight

Link?

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Who was disowned by his family.. the Kennedys.... Disowned for wanting to release the details of his father's death....

Cmon

This is interesting. I did some googling and RFK Jnr did a podcast with Bill Maher about it back in 2023;

https://www.mensjournal.com/podcasts/club-random/robert-f-kennedy-jr

Jun 25, 2023

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.: ...Sirhan was involved in the murder of my father, but he did not fire the shots that killed my father. He confessed to the murder. He pled guilty. His story is that he has no memory of it, and he stuck with that story for 60 years. But when I sat down and read the autopsy report, it became clear to me as it would to anybody who read that report, that Sirhan could not have killed my father—which is what Thomas Noguchi, the most important coroner probably in American history, concluded and wrote in his autobiography.

Here's what happened, the short story. Sirhan fired two shots at my father from five feet away. There was absolute mayhem in the kitchen of the Ambassador Hotel. My father had just won the primary and now it's on to Chicago, which was where the convention was. He walked off the stage and took an unexpected route through the kitchen. Waiting in the kitchen in an ambush was Sirhan Sirhan, who fired two shots as my father approached. One of them hit Paul Schrade, Deputy Director of the United Auto Workers and one of my father’s best friends. The other shot went past my father's ear and hit a wooden door jamb behind him. Sirhan was then grabbed by six men in a dog pile. He fired six more shots, in the opposite direction from where my father was.

Bill Maher: It's the same scenario as Oswald. A patsy and a real shooter.

Robert: Right. Sirhan was a distractor, and the real shooter was behind my father. He was a man called Eugene Thane Cesar, a security guard who worked for Lockheed. He was a CIA operative and a vocal racist who hated the Kennedys. He had been the one who led my father through the kitchen toward the ambush. He was holding my father's arm. He drew his gun, and my father was shot four times from behind...

 

[Gethelred]

And my personal favourite where he accidentally says we cannot get reelected we can only reelect Donald Trump and they fake fact checked it to make it seem like it didn't happen when it did (clear evidence in the link)

... I mean, it's legitimately in the video you provided, demonstrating the context for the statement made and showing that the sentence didn't end there.

This post'd be misinformative if the evidence of it being misinformative wasn't actively embedded.

 

[Knoxy]

It doesn't help when all the democrats who said he was a threat to the future of democracy have started the day saying they called him to congratulate him and are ready to help him move in to the white house.

What's the alternative? Claim the election was rigged and storm the capitol building like a pack of man babies?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Link?

His episode last night on Youtube.



Sorry I cant watch it to cherry pick the exact moments but around 8-10 mins in he goes on a rant about Trump winning because of a group of Chinese bamboo voters.

Mod Edit: At no point in this video does Stewart go on a rant about 'Chinese bamboo voters'. This post is deemed misinformative.

 

[Episode IV]

Did have their country destroyed during ww2, good resources and logistics post ww2.

Well, you got the second half right.
I suppose you could be forgiven for confusing the USA and UK these days.

 

[Mister Carlton]

Xi likes his homeless like he likes his women, non existent.
My gay mates all reckon he likes men.

So you?

 

[Sir_Loin]

The legal precedent that it was a constitutional right to have an abortion.

Since then 13 states have effectively banned it. While more have limited timeframes in which it can occur.

After repeatedly saying it wouldn’t be repealed it was the republican judges on who overturned it.

They will say they won’t be putting federal laws in place up until the moment they do it. If they get the opportunity to do it they will.

For now they are happy to let the states cause as much suffering as they can.

No. it was a right to privacy. It was settled. Gorsuch, Comey-Barrett and kavanagh flat out lied in their confirmation hearings

 

[Blue1980]

I can't think of a better way to disenfranchise the ten to fifteen million democrat voters who didn't vote this election than to have the candidate they voted for in the primary pull out after it and have another installed for them.

Couple that with how "sharp as a tac" Biden was in the words of the media prior to his performance in that debate with how quickly they dropped him to celebrate Harris as the great rescue.

I can't say I'm surprised a lot of D voters didn't feel like the party was representing them this year.

When you have non compulsory voting, that is an issue as you need to get people feeling like they are personally invested.

Biden should have dropped out earlier than they could have had an open primary. May of still lost anyway, they were probably always going to lose in hindsight with the cost of living stuff (even though i know they have it under control and done that well, but that’s not how people vote).

The people who know the extenuating circumstances on inflation and how the US have got it under control better than any other G7 country would be voting for the Dems anyway.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

What's the alternative? Claim the election was rigged and storm the capitol building like a pack of man babies?

Try to jail him or shoot him is the obvious ome

 

[Episode IV]

I don't think Christ died a virgin, but you're describing the youngest of the three religions there.

Not the one being described either.

 

[Romeoh1]

This is interesting. I did some googling and RFK Jnr did a podcast with Bill Maher about it back in 2023;

You can’t believe anything Kennedy says though. He is barking mad.

 

[Chief]

Harris dodges question on lowering prices by describing 'middle-class' roots: Neighbors 'proud of their lawn'

Vice President Kamala Harris went viral for an exchange she had with a Philadelphia anchor, who asked her how she would specifically lower prices for Americans.

www.foxnews.com

SNL mocks Kamala Harris' 'middle class family' interview response during 'Family Feud' skit | Fox News Video

"Saturday Night Live" mocked VP Kamala Harris on Saturday, taking aim at the Democratic presidential candidate's responses to questions about the economy, surrounding her "middle class" roots.

www.foxnews.com

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/heres-all-the-time-kamala-harris-answered-questions-by-saying-look-i-grew-up-in-a-middle-class-family-101729071870931.html

Harris dodges question on lowering prices by describing 'middle-class' roots: Neighbors 'proud of their lawn'

Vice President Kamala Harris went viral for an exchange she had with a Philadelphia anchor, who asked her how she would specifically lower prices for Americans.

www.foxnews.com

There's more but I'm having an extremely hard to getting links to copy and paste without my phone refreshing

I meant I would like a link to the original if possible.

 

[Blue1980]

The same guy who went on racist tangents for 10 minutes straight is the guy you wanna quote?

Far out. His monologue was all thats wrong with the world. Believing you can throw flat out racist insults at people because they disagree with you aint no way to live

What racist tangent?

 

[FlowersByIrene]

The legal precedent that it was a constitutional right to have an abortion.

Since then 13 states have effectively banned it. While more have limited timeframes in which it can occur.

After repeatedly saying it wouldn’t be repealed it was the republican judges on who overturned it.

They will say they won’t be putting federal laws in place up until the moment they do it. If they get the opportunity to do it they will.

For now they are happy to let the states cause as much suffering as they can.

Thanks Hoot, i'll take my understanding of the Republican party over yours. As i've said before, you can relax - they won't be doing this.

 

[Taylor]

When you have non compulsory voting, that is an issue as you need to get people feeling like they are personally invested.

Biden should have dropped out earlier than they could have had an open primary. May of still lost anyway, they were probably always going to lose in hindsight with the cost of living stuff (even though i know they have it under control and done that well, but that’s not how people vote).

The people who know the extenuating circumstances on inflation and how the US have got it under control better than any other G7 country would be voting for the Dems anyway.

You're spot on about non compulsory voting requiring motivation to get out to vote, it's also responsible for the polarisation and greater divide. Just consider that it's easier to scare 150,000 more people in PA to go to vote than it is to convince 150,000 to choose your policy over the alternative.

It lends itself towards slogan and simple emotive issues. It's a real strength of our system that everyone has to vote, neither party can stray too far from both each other and the middle.

 

[Blue1980]

Try to jail him or shoot him is the obvious ome

You think the Dems should try and knock him off or put him in jail?

 

[ElectricG]

He is going to end the war in Ukraine on day 1.

 

[black is White]

They are definitely trying to ban abortion. The current checks and balances in place prevent them from just outright banning it. Doesn’t mean it’s not something they aren’t working towards.

No I was very deliberate in my wording. We’ve already seen Reagan let HIV go through the gay community. There are also pushes around preventing knowledge of safe sex simply deeming it a sin. They will do everything in their power to punish those they deem “undesirable”.

The republican plan is to start small and work its way towards the end goal. They’ve learnt to do it little bit by little bit. Slowly boil the country and by the time the country wakes up to it a heap of damage will be done. Damage has already been done and they’ve gone back for Trump again.

During the Florida election abortion was on the ballot to advance it to 24 weeks instead of the current 6 weeks. Because of a law passed in the mid 2000s instead of needing 51% majority you need a 60% majority. The vote failed due to it getting 57%. Florida is known for having among the strictest abortion rules in the country. In a deep red state to still get 57% is pretty significant and shows Republicans don't want to ban abortion at all. Some may think 24 weeks is too late and 6 weeks definitely isn't a total abortion ban and no republicans I'm aware of is promoting or suggesting that.

 

[Gethelred]

Oh really.
Particularly in the case of Judaism (Christianity being only one of several religions which developed from Judaism, part of the Abrahamic group of religions), which religions did they rip off?

The main thrust of this little side-conversation, though, seems to be that Australia was or was not founded on Christian religious principles, and furthermore whether or not Christianity as a religion has any place in government.

That Australia's laws, principles and social morality were founded as a Christian nation, and according to the principles of Christianity is a given. The ten commandments form the basis of just about every law there is. Granted, we've gotten a little slack on a few of them over time, but the basics remain.

It's a tangent for another thread, but the Ten Commandments is considered - academically - to have its roots in the Code of Hammurabi, as there's considerable overlap between them; as such, the claim that Judaism/Christianity appropriated ideas from other religions and philosophies isn't really an overreach.

 

[Taylor]

During the Florida election abortion was on the ballot to advance it to 24 weeks instead of the current 6 weeks. Because of a law passed in the mid 2000s instead of needing 51% majority you need a 60% majority. The vote failed due to it getting 57%. Florida is known for having among the strictest abortion rules in the country. In a deep red state to still get 57% is pretty significant and shows Republicans don't want to ban abortion at all. Some may think 24 weeks is too late and 6 weeks definitely isn't a total abortion ban and no republicans I'm aware of is promoting or suggesting that.

The abortion advocates in Florida reached too far with that law, if they had picked 12 weeks it would be Florida constitutional law now.

 

[Blue1980]

He is going to end the war in Ukraine on day 1.

Jan 21?