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They have had since early this year to get people to agree to play with them in 2024 (or come back from where they ended up this year). Someone closer to the club may need to answer that one for us.
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I’d minimize relegation
Ormond
Prahran
Therry
UHS
Parkside
Old yarra cobras
Preston
West Brunswick
Kew
Peninsula
SMD
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Mhsob
Wattle park
Richmond
Powerhouse
La trobe
Swinny
NB
Albert park
BHN
Jocs
Masala
Eley park
Mentone panthers
Westbourne???
With an expanded d3 the draw can be seeded for competitiveness so WP and mentone aren’t bashing up on EP more than once..
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Ormond
Prahran
Therry
UHS
Parkside
Old yarra cobras
Preston
West Brunswick
Kew
Peninsula
SMD
Brunswick
Whitefriars
Bulleen temp
Wicks
Hawks
Aquinas
Canterbury
SMS
Mhsob
Wattle park
Richmond
Powerhouse
La trobe
Swinny
NB
Albert park
BHN
Jocs
Masala
Eley park
Mentone panthers
Westbourne???
With an expanded d3 the draw can be seeded for competitiveness so WP and mentone aren’t bashing up on EP more than once..
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"a team" that quick? Try two teams as they must also field a Reserves side.
As Mentonians left the VAFA of their own volition, there was no OM’s team in last year’s competition.
Don’t try and kiss them better; they left and didn’t exist last year. As a new club/team wanting to join the VAFA, they should go through due diligence like any other club and if approved start at the bottom like every other new club.
I have a feeling that if they are mollycoddled and slotted into C or D1, once again they’ll slide out the back door.
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Maybe soon the VAFA will be forced to take the larger clubs 'thirds' out of that comp and play them in Div 4 so there are enough teams in that comp to have a better fixture. Imagine that Xavier's bottom two thirds teams form a 'club' in Div 4?
Chump
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Due respect my Chumpy friend (and to Albert Park and North Brunswick), but if the bottom two Old Xavs Thirds teams were combined into the “regular” Division 4 they would have comfortably won the flag.Maybe soon the VAFA will be forced to take the larger clubs 'thirds' out of that comp and play them in Div 4 so there are enough teams in that comp to have a better fixture. Imagine that Xavier's bottom two thirds teams form a 'club' in Div 4?
Chump
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I agree Mappa that this could be the case, but they are anyway in their respective thirds comps or playing each other in grand finals - so maybe make another 'club' from them and they can come up the grades until they find their level
Cheeky Chump
I think they should have Premier Thirds and Divisional Thirds. A-C can have as many Thirds teams as they like, but they'll only play each other. D1-D4 will also only play each other.I agree Mappa that this could be the case, but they are anyway in their respective thirds comps or playing each other in grand finals - so maybe make another 'club' from them and they can come up the grades until they find their level
Cheeky Chump
Prem Thirds would have:
Fitzroy x2
Xavs x4
Scotch x2
St Kevins
Uni Blues x2
OM
Brighton x2
St Bernards
Old Geelong
Trinity
Collegians
Blacks
CYs x2
Beaumaris
AJAX x2
Mazenod x2
Old Camberwell
Hampton
Monash Blues
Glen Eira
Divisional Thirds would have:
Richmond Central
Marcellin
West Brunswick
Parkside
Chadstone
South Melbourne
Prahran
Kew
Whitefriars
MHSOB
Uni High
Elsternwick
Box Hill North
Wattle Park
Canterbury
If it means that a club has two teams in the same division and play each other, then so be it.
This has serious merit.
Premier Thirds = 3 divisions of 10 (18 rounds and finals).
Divisional Thirds = 1 division of 15 (15 rounds and 'top six' finals) or two divisions of 8 & 7 (14 rounds and finals).
I like it.
Divisional Thirds = 1 division of 15 (15 rounds and 'top six' finals) or two divisions of 8 & 7 (14 rounds and finals).
I like it.
Great idea, this also removes the inequality in the fixtures where Prem sides are still playing h&a when Div sides are into finals creating more ability for the Prem sides to play better players in thirds finals.
Also different byes which can affect who can play in different weeks.
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Richmond played Ormond in a grand final, where are the later ?
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I think the Adelaide Footy League have something similar to this system which works pretty well.
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I think Richmond Centrals 3rds are a old xavs group looking for a game. And are pretty much seperate from the rest of the club, could be wrong though. Most clubs 3rds would be like this, as chump said a while ago with Ivanhoe. Make them play each other in the higher grades I reckon.
There were a few ex Hampton players in that Richmond side , no mention of Ormond in that 3rds list.
Was a good effort to not forfeit during the year , getting past players back and using some 19's that stayed .
Is it Xavs or Scotch ? I seem to recall in the past they had a Thirds named the "Cardinals" or something of that nature and they pretty much played almost exclusively of the main RC club. I could have my history quite wrong though.
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Maybe soon the VAFA will be forced to take the larger clubs 'thirds' out of that comp and play them in Div 4 so there are enough teams in that comp to have a better fixture. Imagine that Xavier's bottom two thirds teams form a 'club' in Div 4?
Chump
Believe that’s how it works in Perth chump- old mate mortlock would know more there
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hansie - a couple of years ago, the Perth Football League added one or two Thirds/Fourths teams to the C4/C4 Reserves competition to make up a 10-team competition.
Since then, we have seen more clubs do it and in 2023, North Beach 3s & 4s were in C3 & C3 Res (above four 1st XVIII clubs in C4) and six of the 10 C4 & C4 Reserves clubs were 3s & 4s teams.
Most of the clubs in the 13-club C5/C5 Reserves competition are 3s & 4s teams.
There used to be D1, D2, D3 and D4 (and Reserves for each), which were exclusively the 3s & 4s for the clubs in order from A Grade down, but that has been disbanded as the clubs joined C4 and C5 instead.
There is also E1 to E4, which are a mix of single team clubs and 5th XVIII teams (and even a few 6s and 7s).
Since then, we have seen more clubs do it and in 2023, North Beach 3s & 4s were in C3 & C3 Res (above four 1st XVIII clubs in C4) and six of the 10 C4 & C4 Reserves clubs were 3s & 4s teams.
Most of the clubs in the 13-club C5/C5 Reserves competition are 3s & 4s teams.
There used to be D1, D2, D3 and D4 (and Reserves for each), which were exclusively the 3s & 4s for the clubs in order from A Grade down, but that has been disbanded as the clubs joined C4 and C5 instead.
There is also E1 to E4, which are a mix of single team clubs and 5th XVIII teams (and even a few 6s and 7s).
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Word is that presidents/secretaries have been asked to meet next Tuesday to discuss divisional structures for 2024
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Only two ways this will go, 10/10/12 or 8/8/8/8
If it's 8/8/8/8 it probably ends up as:
D1: Ormond, Prahran, UHS, Therry, Peninsula, Kew, Parkside, OYC
D2: West Brunswick, Preston, Brunswick, SMD, Whitefriars, MHSOB, Elsternwick, Hawthorn
D3: BT, SMS, Aquinas, Canterbury, Wattle Park, Richmond Central, North Brunswick, Albert Park
D4: PH, LTU, SU, MP, BHN, EP, SJ, Masala
It should be 10/10/12. Honestly don't think D4 is viable.
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All 18 rounds? 12 team is just luck of the draw?
Eight teams is a bit thin on for D1 I feel, and an 18-round season where everyone plays each other home and away is the fairest format.
If D3 has to be more than 10 to allow all of the others above to be 10 then so be it. The only other way around it is to have nine teams from A Section downwards with 16 matches and two byes but that is not ideal.
If D3 has to be more than 10 to allow all of the others above to be 10 then so be it. The only other way around it is to have nine teams from A Section downwards with 16 matches and two byes but that is not ideal.
12 teams. Play each other once (11 games)
Then ladder after round 11 splits it into 2 6 team comps (carry over your points/%). Play other 5 teams in your comp again once, makes it a 16 game H&A season. Then final four.
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While I agree with you on D4, there will be some almighty beatings in D3 next year. Wattle Park would beat Eley Park by 50 goals.
Assuming Old Mentone will get up and get put into D4. Not sure if OM would like coming in to D4. If they are put into a higher grade it may mean some team will suffer relegation. My thoughts go with D1, D2 and D3.
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And westbourne?
14 team D3 with a top 8 finals?
