Roast Vent Thread

[Not Important]

LMAO ... BEER.
Australian beer is the most expensive in the world, 90 per cent of due to taxes
The only thing that makes Aussie beer looks cheap is the fact we way overcharge for foreign beers.
Like $60 a slab for Corona here. You can buy it for $22 in the US.

i agree. $5.60 for a pot is outrageous.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

LMAO ... BEER.
Australian beer is the most expensive in the world, 90 per cent of due to taxes
The only thing that makes Aussie beer looks cheap is the fact we way overcharge for foreign beers.
Like $60 a slab for Corona here. You can buy it for $22 in the US.

High cost is due to the fact you are importing air. Retail products are never cheap for shipping, esp for thr small volumes we buy.

The joke is while corona is $60, so is a becks or a heiny or a stella, all of which are made in australia. That is a genuine rip off.

 

[Livonski]

High cost is due to the fact you are importing air. Retail products are never cheap for shipping, esp for thr small volumes we buy.

The joke is while corona is $60, so is a becks or a heiny or a stella, all of which are made in australia. That is a genuine rip off.

Agreed. I only buy the German Becks, imported.

 

[smasha]

Cricketers Arms best beer for buck.

 

[smasha]

I love that stuff they serve at the European bier cafe,Hooogarden?

Its wheat beer and looks like healthy urine.

P.S. Its Hoegaarden,love me Belgian beer.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

The other beer scam is the micro brewery market. Most Lion and CUB micros are now brewed at the their big mega breweries. Fat yak, beez, and redback, all done at the big sites. Only matilda and lil creatures are still stand alone sites

 

[smasha]

Ferral hop hog is a real great Aussie beer.
From W.A.

 

[smasha]

Gone off the Yaks yuck.

 

[Livonski]

Gone off the Yaks yuck.

Only ever drink them in the Virgin lounge. They seem to be front and centre there for some reason.

 

[Goldust]

I tend to drink only Australian craft beers these days, of which there are many great ones floating around.
Holgate, at Woodend, have a bunch of good brews.
Hawthorn IPA goes well, as do the Stone and Wood beers.
And if you can get your hands on it Kosciuszko Pale Ale is a ripper.
Ditto for Bendigo Pale Ale and if you can find them anything from the Blackheart Brewery, which operates out of Brighton. THey usually sell a Blackheart beer at Young and Jackson's.

 

[Grockadoc]

If you are near a First Choice Liqour, try getting the Henninger. $35 for a slab and it is a decent German beer.

 

[Goldust]

If you are near a First Choice Liqour, try getting the Henninger. $35 for a slab and it is a decent German beer.

I will on my way home!

 

[Grockadoc]

I will on my way home!

Used to be $28.80 a slab a few years ago until people started buying it because it was cheap. Gone up, but still tasty and compared to other beers, (imported and local) it's still cheap.

My local one is about half an hour down the road, so compare that to 5 minutes for Liquorland, BWS and Dan Murphy's, I don't venture out to FCL as much as I would like.

 

[Helen Wheels]

2017 RULE #1:
Richmond requires all players to be capable of chasing and tackling, and to demonstrate this appropriately as circumstances require.

 

[wegetpumped]

So much of this post is wrong

1) people don't support oz made. They say they do, but if they did we wouldn't have lost the footwear and textile jobs in the 80's, the plastics in the 90's, and the auto industry in the 2000's

2) we cannot mass produce to the scale of china because we lack the domestic demand to under right large mass production runs, and we are on the wrong side of world shipping lanes to be a cheap export hub (too few containers come to and from Australia). A client once gave me an example. Australian national clothing chains order stock in the hundreds or low thousands. Many Chinese plants have a minimum run of 1,000,000. We cannot compete with those economies of scale for cheap mass production.

3) we are dreading nothing. We have low unemployment because people have found jobs elsewhere. So jobs were always going offshore unless you banned imports or imposed 500% tariffs (our high bracket used to be 40%). Just like Knut, you cannot stop the tide by yelling at it.

4) if you wanted to manufacture textiles, your plant wouldn't come from china most likely. You would probably buy from the USA or Europe, where most of the worlds capital plant is still made and manufacturered. As for labour, this would be your killer. Textiles are highly labour intensive because they only garment construction that can be fully automated are buttons and zippers. At minimum wage levels you would have incredibly high prices, unless you drop the quality of materials significantly. Also you would struggle to fill those jobs because they suck. It's painful hard work, and Australians have little interest in this work (ask an abbittoir how hard hiring is these days)

Woah im not politically correct is all you are trying to say so why not just say that.
All i know when we produced things here it was such a standard that left the rest of the world for dead. I mean we took pride what we were producing and i would jump at the chance to buy say A rank arena tv instead of lg samsung so on.
Politicians had you know what done this to the country not the consumers by opening up trades so on.
You might be not proud to support locally produced stuff but i do eg i buy spc instead all the cheaper versions.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Woah im not politically correct is all you are trying to say so why not just say that.
All i know when we produced things here it was such a standard that left the rest of the world for dead. I mean we took pride what we were producing and i would jump at the chance to buy say A rank arena tv instead of lg samsung so on.
Politicians had you know what done this to the country not the consumers by opening up trades so on.
You might be not proud to support locally produced stuff but i do eg i buy spc instead all the cheaper versions.

Nothing to do with being politically correct or incorrect, its all about economics and consumer choice

Australian manufacturing wasnt of a high standard for many consumer items. We were pretty poor at attention to detail and quality control (same as usa and uk), which is why consumers ran to japanese and then korean products.

Ive had a mazda of some sort for over 8 years, never had a single issue. I cant say the same for the australoan made laser and commodore i owned (went through three starter motors just with the laser!)

We lost manufacturing because we couldnt do it cheap, and we couldnt do it at a quality you need to charge the premiums the germans and the scandanavians can

 

[Hank Heavenly]

Holdens is the classic example...

Blokes with little to no skill set/expertise, sitting on a production line, doing the same little thing over and over.... Earning close to or in some cases more than 100k....

I have nothing against these types of positions, for all I know one of my sons might be useless and need a simple job like this, but there is no way they should have been paid what they were getting...

High cost of labour = High cost to consumer
High Cost Low Quality product (holdens) vs High Cost High End Quality (imported) 50/50 call to some
But then when Higher Quality but Lower Cost product hits the market, places like holden are screwed.

The next problem is, you have a workforce who are used to being paid massive overs, sitting in the doll que with minimal to no qualifications wanting another job paying close to 100k, then that creates unrealistic expectations on the next industry

 

[Heisenberg_]

I'm pretty sure I'd take a Samsung TV over a Australian made TV if I'm after quality...

 

[HumanMeatball]

I'm pretty sure I'd take a Samsung TV over a Australian made TV if I'm after quality...

100% why should I buy Australian products when I can get higher quality and even cheaper products overseas?

 

[The Goon]

Agree with this completely. Or at least buying from the original country of origin by choice (not off shoring), like what Livonski said before about buying German Becks over the local version, I'm the same with Stella (Belgian over local) and likewise with book printing, hardware tools, musical instruments, furniture etc are things that are still easy to get from the original country.

But to the basis of your point you are spot on, I'd argue that most people would buy the work boots that are made here as opposed to the ones that are made in Asia due to off shoring for one example.

As an aside, beer is one of the few things that I'll go for the local version over the original. Beer is typically better the fresher it is. Shipping from Europe to Australia takes about 45 days. Add in customs, shipping to / from ports, distribution centres etc and you'd be lucky to pick up a European beer that was younger than 2 to 3 months old - half way through it's shelf life. Then, the container has gone through the tropics and (assuming it's not refrigerated) has experienced some pretty extreme heat differences over the journey - again bad for the product.

This philosophy came about because of 2 experiences:
1. Drinking Guiness at the brewery and in Ireland. There is an obvious difference when it's fresh.
2. Drinking beer in Qatar. Their warehouse is in the middle of the desert, and despite the fact beer was served chilled it had been stored at 45 degrees. It tasted worse, and I always felt a bit shit the next day.

I won't let it stop me buying and drinking imported beers though.

 

[smasha]

**** straya

Looked at my Pearl maple shell drums.
Made In Taiwan lol.

 

[captain blood 17]

At the rate we are selling off our farm land to foreign investment, and the industries we have lost and the jobs which have been outsourced, we are leaving future generations very short changed. Politicians and unions have a lot to answer for. Don't look at the now, look to the future.


Back off Warchild, seriously......

 

[Ned_Flanders]

At the rate we are selling off our farm land to foreign investment, and the industries we have lost and the jobs which have been outsourced, we are leaving future generations very short changed. Politicians and unions have a lot to answer for. Don't look at the now, look to the future.


Back off Warchild, seriously......

Just 13% of our farmland is foreign owned, and most of that is british owned (indicating its been owned for years)

as for the great chinese takeover, 0.5% - thats it

Foreign farm ownership often sees reinvestment into farms which the previous owners couldnt afford. And this is a good thing, because it improves the farms efficiency - which means better commodity pricing, more jobs, and more tax revenue

 

[Sir_Loin]

I tend to drink only Australian craft beers these days, of which there are many great ones floating around.
Holgate, at Woodend, have a bunch of good brews.
Hawthorn IPA goes well, as do the Stone and Wood beers.
And if you can get your hands on it Kosciuszko Pale Ale is a ripper.
Ditto for Bendigo Pale Ale and if you can find them anything from the Blackheart Brewery, which operates out of Brighton. THey usually sell a Blackheart beer at Young and Jackson's.

Hop nation IPA brewed in Footscray - good one too

 

[Goldust]

Hop nation IPA brewed in Footscray - good one too

Thanks for the recommendation ... gonna seek some out!