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Wonder if we'd get a double discount on Oakleigh Chargers father/son?

Grand sale, grand sale, grand sale. Megalo, megalo, megalo!
 

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I'd like to know how exactly a kid is deemed multicultural enough to qualify for this?

Was Petracca foreign enough, Lumumba or Majak at the time of drafting?

I've seen pale skinned gingers pronounce themselves as indigenous.

Yeah okay.

A slippery slope bound to be exploited.

P.S-The hawks got Gippsland. They win.

What a surprise.
 
I'd assume it works the same way as the interstate academies do in that it's for identification of talent not already in elite programs (i.e TAC cup). If that's the case then the NT is going to be significantly better than a comparable region in Northern Victoria imo.
 
What the hell does 'diverse' constitute under this system? Being born outside of Australia? Having an ancestry other than British ancestry? Having a link to Indigenous Australia no matter how remote it is?

The word 'diverse' needs to be defined narrowly and clearly otherwise this implementation will not work.

I understand the logic behind this but I have a bad feeling it's going to be open for exploitation and going to be a failure if the AFL doesn't scrap it sooner enough.
 
Old Spice said:
Do not like.

Zoning pretty much killed South Melbourne and delivered a bunch of quality players to 4 clubs. Between 1967 and 1983 Hawthorn, Carlton, Richmond and North won all the VFL premierships. Hawthorn got Mornington peninsula which strikes me as more metro than country.
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North Melbourne success in the late 1970s was not about zones but use of the 10 year rule.
 
I like the idea of zones in the NT and northern Australia in general, but zones in Vic just reminds me of the bad old days when teams got either ridiculously advantaged, or disadvantaged by their zone.

I wonder how many white kids will suddenly have 'indigenous heritage' if they're in the zone of a team they want to get to...
 
Won't we just get first choice if someone bids on our academy players? Then it'll go down to points like it works with the other academies?

Doesn't seem like the zones will be a huge advantage like the old days. It should however be good for the growth of the game and Identifying more young talent.
 
morelli89 said:
Won't we just get first choice if someone bids on our academy players? Then it'll go down to points like it works with the other academies?

Doesn't seem like the zones will be a huge advantage like the old days. It should however be good for the growth of the game and Identifying more young talent.
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Yeah it sounds like a mild version of what the current Northern clubs have with their academies. If they have a ~20% (iirc) discount on players perhaps this will be about ~10%. Sure it's massively open for exploitation but thankfully it shouldn't have the same effect as previously.
 

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swoop42 said:
I'd like to know how exactly a kid is deemed multicultural enough to qualify for this?

Was Petracca foreign enough, Lumumba or Majak at the time of drafting?

I've seen pale skinned gingers pronounce themselves as indigenous.

Yeah okay.

A slippery slope bound to be exploited.

P.S-The hawks got Gippsland. They win.

What a surprise.
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And Hawks also got a big NT Area. How many Hawks Men work on the AFL?
 
pugsville said:
North Melbourne success in the late 1970s was not about zones but use of the 10 year rule.
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North were the least successful of those 4. It was an absolute golden run for the other 3.
 
morelli89 said:
Won't we just get first choice if someone bids on our academy players? Then it'll go down to points like it works with the other academies?

Doesn't seem like the zones will be a huge advantage like the old days. It should however be good for the growth of the game and Identifying more young talent.
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That's a good point and does make a difference I guess. But cumulatively, in a game of diminishing returns, even a 20 per cent discount every couple of years might be significant.
 
TradeDraft said:
and Lucky we got a Zone in the NT.

Did Jurrah come from that Zone?
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Jurrah came from Yuendumu, which is in the Central Desert region. I spent some time working in communities up there (not Barkly area though). The talent is awesome and academies are the best shot at developing that talent building the capacity for the young people to move away from their community to play AFL. Its a good initiative although I'm not sure academies being tied to particular clubs is the best way to do it.
 
noideaatall said:
Jurrah came from Yuendumu, which is in the Central Desert region. I spent some time working in communities up there (not Barkly area though). The talent is awesome and academies are the best shot at developing that talent building the capacity for the young people to move away from their community to play AFL. Its a good initiative although I'm not sure academies being tied to particular clubs is the best way to do it.
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I say did that because Clubs been complaining about the Northern Academies.

Good talent in Barkly Area? noideaatall
 
PonsfordMagpie said:
What the hell does 'diverse' constitute under this system? Being born outside of Australia? Having an ancestry other than British ancestry? Having a link to Indigenous Australia no matter how remote it is?

The word 'diverse' needs to be defined narrowly and clearly otherwise this implementation will not work.

I understand the logic behind this but I have a bad feeling it's going to be open for exploitation and going to be a failure if the AFL doesn't scrap it sooner enough.
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Can you even do that?
 
I don't like the idea. As a solution to countering northern academies it fails badly and only creates further complications that contradict equalisation both in terms of areas and spending. Investment in the zones is outside the football cap, so the big clubs who pump money in will benefit.

Hawks seem to have done well with Gippsland and also Box Hill which is a very multicultural area. While North will likely get part of Tassie, it remains to be seen if the hawks will too. I can't imagine them not pushing hard.

In terms of us, I haven't looked to see the exact boundaries, but it seems our heartland has landed with Carlton, which would be disappointing.
 
F*** this shit. Get Hine and crew to start identifying the best 12-15 years old in the country that qualify as multi-cultural or indigenous and pay for them to move to our zone in Melbourne or NT. Payments for the academies are outside the cap.

If it's here, whether we like it or not, maximise our opportunity, within those rules. Better to spend the money on this then the Irish type of experiments.
 
1892 said:
I don't like the idea. As a solution to countering northern academies it fails badly and only creates further complications that contradict equalisation both in terms of areas and spending. Investment in the zones is outside the football cap, so the big clubs who pump money in will benefit.

Hawks seem to have done well with Gippsland and also Box Hill which is a very multicultural area. While North will likely get part of Tassie, it remains to be seen if the hawks will too. I can't imagine them not pushing hard.

In terms of us, I haven't looked to see the exact boundaries, but it seems our heartland has landed with Carlton, which would be disappointing.
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I would love to know how they came up with which teams get What Zones?
 
sirlothie said:
They would have worked it out by population density. Oakleigh's zone encompassing the south east metro would be more densely populated than the entire Gippsland. But I reckon a lot more indigenous kids come from Gippsland.
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African Boys would be the most likely signed in the Melbourne Academies
 

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