Current WAR CRIMES Israel - Hamas - Hezbollah - Houthis

[Jazny]

So IDF storming in and destroying roads, houses and killing 12 Palestinians isn't an act of war? Is it just a normal situation for you? How many Palestinians need to die before it can be called an act of war in your book?

Can you be more specific? It sounds like you're referring to a raid on Jenin which killed at least 9 militants in July 2023 but it could be the recent raid. Israel is not at war with the ruling government in the West Bank. The PA did not go to war with Israel after the raid either. If they did, then you could argue the raid caused the war.

What war do you think the 2023 raid started or was part of?

 

[DapperDon]

Can you be more specific? It sounds like you're referring to a raid on Jenin which killed at least 9 militants in July 2023 but it could be the recent raid. Israel is not at war with the ruling government in the West Bank. The PA did not go to war with Israel after the raid either. If they did, then you could argue the raid caused the war.

What war do you think the 2023 raid started or was part of?

I never stated it aterted a war, just that it was an act of war. By what right do Israel Miitary have storming into a West Bank city, tearing up roads, storming a hospital, shooting at health workers and the sick all because they believe there to be bad guys there?

The PA didn't declare anything as they knew what the end result would be, unlike Hamas who didn't care.

We don't keep getting to turn a blind eye to all these incidents and go, oh it's just Israel in the West Bank/Gaza, noting new. Those good little farmers wont do anything, so it's fine.

 

[Jazny]

I never stated it aterted a war, just that it was an act of war. By what right do Israel Miitary have storming into a West Bank city, tearing up roads, storming a hospital, shooting at health workers and the sick all because they believe there to be bad guys there?

Occupying powers have legal authority to have military presence and are able to carry out military operations in the territories they occupy for security reasons and to ensure public order spelled out clear in the fourth Geneva Convention and customary international law (Hague Regulations art. 43).



They must still respect IHL principles of proportion and distinction and all other obligations under IHL. Shooting at health care workers would be illegal unless they are posing a direct threat. Which incident are you referring to there?

People like to talk about occupation all day but forget occupying powers have some legal authority in the territory they occupy too.

 

[DapperDon]

Occupying powers have legal authority to have military presence and are able to carry out military operations in the territories they occupy for security reasons and to ensure public order spelled out clear in the fourth Geneva Convention and customary international law (Hague Regulations art. 43).

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View attachment 2151339They must still respect IHL principles of proportion and distinction and all other obligations under IHL. Shooting at health care workers would be illegal unless they are posing a direct threat. Which incident are you referring to there?

People like to talk about occupation all day but forget occupying powers have some legal authority in the territory they occupy too.

So it's you just don't care then.

Israel attacks, and Jenin endures. - JVP

Over the last several days, Israeli forces carried out the largest raid in a West Bank city in over 20 years, causing widespread destruction.

www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org

Thanks for letting us know

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Occupying powers have legal authority to have military presence and are able to carry out military operations in the territories they occupy for security reasons and to ensure public order spelled out clear in the fourth Geneva Convention and customary international law (Hague Regulations art. 43).

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View attachment 2151339They must still respect IHL principles of proportion and distinction and all other obligations under IHL. Shooting at health care workers would be illegal unless they are posing a direct threat. Which incident are you referring to there?

People like to talk about occupation all day but forget occupying powers have some legal authority in the territory they occupy too.

Thats interesting Jazny. Can you explain the difference between occupation and illegal occupation?

 

[Jazny]

Thats interesting Jazny. Can you explain the difference between occupation and illegal occupation?

There is no difference as to the legal responsibility, authority and obligations of the occupying power or the protection of civilians under the fourth Geneva convention or customary law whether the occupation is considered legal or illegal.

 

[Jazny]

So it's you just don't care then.

Israel attacks, and Jenin endures. - JVP

Over the last several days, Israeli forces carried out the largest raid in a West Bank city in over 20 years, causing widespread destruction.

www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org

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Yes, I personally wrote the rules. Good feedback.

 

[DapperDon]

Yes, I personally wrote the rules. Good feedback.

Thanks for once again your well thought insight into the ongoing slaughter of Palestinian people.

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[Jazny]

Thanks for once again your well thought insight into the ongoing slaughter of Palestinian people.

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It was well thought out and nothing I said was incorrect. Sorry you don't like international law, maybe this thread is not for you. You are free to research international laws on occupation for yourself rather than ask questions that you don't want to know the answers to.

 

[faible]

Fact. The bombs being dropped are

Israel's responsibility.

The language you're using is the exact same language used by domestic abusers.

'Look what you made me do'.

Israel chooses every day to drop those bombs. They've shown they can make more targeted strikes when they want. They just don't. Instead they've chosen crimes against humanity.

 

[Zidane98]

Israel's responsibility.

The language you're using is the exact same language used by domestic abusers.

'Look what you made me do'.

Israel chooses every day to drop those bombs. They've shown they can make more targeted strikes when they want. They just don't. Instead they've chosen crimes against humanity.

The language you are using here is very similar to what the Nazis used in the build up the WW2 which laid all the problems of Germany at the time squarely on the Jewish population.

You are doing exactly the same here. Hamas as the government of Gaza has a responsibility to protect the citizens of Gaza. They started this war and continued it to this day. They could have returned all hostages a year ago - but choose to not do so.

Hamas have brought death & destruction upon Gaza by committing one of the most heinous terror attacks the world has ever seen. and continuing it right up to this day. This was their choice, and still is their choice.

And unlike you, I want to see Israel held responsible for their war crimes, their disproportionate response in their war of retribution.

 

[Zidane98]

Meanwhile, actual Gazans are now calling on Hamas to surrender

 

[faible]

unlike you, I want to see Israel held responsible

lol.

 

[sherb]

The language you are using here is very similar to what the Nazis used in the build up the WW2 which laid all the problems of Germany at the time squarely on the Jewish population.

No it isn't. It's simply saying Israel is responsible for its own actions.

You are doing exactly the same here. Hamas as the government of Gaza has a responsibility to protect the citizens of Gaza. They started this war and continued it to this day. They could have returned all hostages a year ago - but choose to not do so.

No he's not. He's simply saying that Israel is responsible for its own actions.

Hamas have brought death & destruction upon Gaza by committing one of the most heinous terror attacks the world has ever seen. and continuing it right up to this day. This was their choice, and still is their choice.

Absolutely correct.

As is Israel's response to said terror attacks their choice - and still is their choice.

And unlike you, I want to see Israel held responsible for their war crimes, their disproportionate response in their war of retribution.

Unlike faible? What makes you think he doesn't want the bolded as well? Got some evidence for putting that opinion in his mouth?

 

[DapperDon]

Meanwhile, actual Gazans are now calling on Hamas to surrender

Stop spreading partial bullshit, nobody wants Hamas to keep going. It's crazy you even think this.

Nazi propaganda like

 

[DapperDon]

It was well thought out and nothing I said was incorrect. Sorry you don't like international law, maybe this thread is not for you. You are free to research international laws on occupation for yourself rather than ask questions that you don't want to know the answers to.

Just keep turning a blind eye Jazny

Thousands of children dead, many more to come but it's ok isn't it.

International law says so

 

[Jazny]

Just keep turning a blind eye Jazny

Thousands of children dead, many more to come but it's ok isn't it.

International law says so

 

[faible]

Stop spreading partial bullshit, nobody wants Hamas to keep going. It's crazy you even think this.

Nazi propaganda like

Zidane views it as a team sport, you either believe Israel's actions are necessary (he'll make superficial statements about it being regrettable or disproportionate but will ultimately always argue in favour of them), or you support Hamas.

 

[ZEV]

Meanwhile, actual Gazans are now calling on Hamas to surrender

Cannot complain with anyone calling for an end to an actual terror regime enforcing sharia law on it's inhabitants and removing democracy.

Stop spreading partial bullshit, nobody wants Hamas to keep going. It's crazy you even think this.

Nazi propaganda like

Oh here we go...