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[Ghost Patrol]

You're pushing the left wing view of history.

The one where the things that happened all over the world and undertaken by everyone are only ascribed to the Europeans as being bad.

Colonising only matters when it was Europeans doing it seems to be the angle. Otherwise it's down play it as a thing.

Do you prefer the far right, Nazi Germany view of history?

Because you seem to be supporting a far right government and it's policies/actions right now...

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

The ones who spread Arab culture and a religious ideology throughout the region.

Still having a horribly negative impact on the world today.

Ah, so you're conflating Arab and Muslim here.

You do realise the people ruling large areas of Palestine whom the Muslim Rashidun Caliphate conquered were the Ghassanids, a Christian Arab kingdom who fought along side the Byzantines?

Many prominent Christian families in Palestine today trace their lineage back to the Ghassanid kingdom.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Kind of like how certain people only talk about slavery from a few hundred years ago by certain nations but say sweet FA about the 50 million slaves in 2024.

Well not really. The exact opposite, in a way.

Are you trying to excuse the use of slaves in the Americas by saying this?

 

[Bostonian]

Do you prefer the far right, Nazi Germany view of history?

Because you seem to be supporting a far right government and it's policies/actions right now...

I prefer the actual one.

I'm not supporting anyone.

Unlike you who is an openly going into bat for all kinds of terrorist organisations.

 

[Bostonian]

Well not really. The exact opposite, in a way.

Are you trying to excuse the use of slaves in the Americas by saying this?

Well that's a perfect example of how people were brainwashed into a false historical account of how things happened.

It was always pushed as being a European thing.

When in fact it was a world wide trade involving all kinds of people and nations.

I have seen morons who thought there were Europeans running all around Africa catching slaves.

When the reality they were just buying them from the Africans themselves.

Rinse and repeat world wide.

 

[Bostonian]

Ah, so you're conflating Arab and Muslim here.

You do realise the people ruling large areas of Palestine whom the Muslim Rashidun Caliphate conquered were the Ghassanids, a Christian Arab kingdom who fought along side the Byzantines?

Many prominent Christian families in Palestine today trace their lineage back to the Ghassanid kingdom.

Well given the prophet was from Arabia...

Palestine didn't exist back then.

In fact that area has been controlled by that many different groups over the centuries it seems who ever has the military strength to hold it, holds it.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Well that's a perfect example of how people were brainwashed into a false historical account of how things happened.

It was always pushed as being a European thing.

When in fact it was a world wide trade involving all kinds of people and nations.

I have seen morons who thought there were Europeans running all around Africa catching slaves.

When the reality they were just buying them from the Africans themselves.

Rinse and repeat world wide.

OK theres no way I'm continuing down this path. Not sure why I engaged tbh.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Well given the prophet was from Arabia...

...and?

Palestine didn't exist back then.

Well it wan't a state, but the word dates back the 12 century BCE.

In fact that area has been controlled by that many different groups over the centuries it seems who ever has the military strength to hold it, holds it.

You could say that for most of the world. Until the second half of the 20th century anyway, which is when the world attitude changed. Might is right is no longer an acceptable motto.

Back to your original post - Arabs conquered Arabs and Byzantines. Some people eventually took up the Islamic religion.

Why is that relevant to apartheid in Israel?

 

[Jazny]

None of it is relevant now. Israel exists and Israelis belong in the land, Palestinians exist and Palestinians belong in the land. Now it's all about finding a solution where the two people can live peacefully together without this constant back and forth nonsense.

 

[Bostonian]

...and?

And the colonisers spread their faith via war and conquest.

Well it wan't a state, but the word dates back the 12 century BCE.

A word that is associated with who ruled the area then.

The Greek lineage Philistines.

Amazing howany different people held that land.

Almost like nobody has any real claim over it.

You could say that for most of the world. Until the second half of the 20th century anyway, which is when the world attitude changed. Might is right is no longer an acceptable motto.

I could say that and I do. It's still happening. Not just in the Israel region.

Aack to your original post - Arabs conquered Arabs and Byzantines. Some people eventually took up the Islamic religion.

Why is that relevant to apartheid in Israel?

Arabs didn't just conquer Arabs though did they...

Their caliphates pushed much further out.

It's relevant because all these people who keep moaning about 1948 don't ever mention all the other countless times different colonial powers held those lands.

It's a common thing in that area over history yes?

 

[Zidane98]