Current WAR CRIMES Israel - * ICC issues warrants for Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu & Yoav Gallant & for Hamas's Mohammed Deif

[Kurve]

The ICC has also issued a warrant for Hamas leader Mohammed Deif, who Israel says they have killed.

According to the ICC, the chamber “found reasonable grounds to believe” that Deif was “responsible for the crimes against humanity of murder; extermination; torture; and rape and other form of sexual violence; as well as the war crimes of murder, cruel treatment, torture; taking hostages; outrages upon personal dignity; and rape and other form of sexual violence”.

It also said there were reasonable grounds to believe the crimes against humanity were “part of a widespread and systematic attack directed by Hamas and other armed groups against the civilian population of Israel”.

For Netanyahu and Gallant, who was replaced as defence minister earlier this month, the chamber “found reasonable grounds to believe” that they “each bear criminal responsibility for the following crimes as co-perpetrators for committing the acts jointly with others: the war crime of starvation as a method of warfare; and the crimes against humanity of murder, persecution, and other inhumane acts”.

It also found reasonable grounds to believe that “each bear criminal responsibility as civilian superiors for the war crime of intentionally directing an attack against the civilian population”.




INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT

INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT - Elements of Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes

 

[DapperDon]

This is what you say when you have no information that contradicts what I have said, which is why you say so often Otherwise you would just produce all the info.

Your games are old, you ask for a single specific thing that you need to disregard anything Israel do. Rather than looking and seeing the destruction and deaths as a whole, you need a specific phrase uttered by a single person to disprove a specific act you have made up in your mind.

An IDF soldier on site word that they were told to shoot anyone that crossed an invisible line doesn't count as that isn't enough proof for you, that's too simple, yet blowing up countless hospitals because Israel said it's was a Hamas command centre without giving proof is good enough for you to go on. It's crazy how little you care for deaths on one side of the wall.

 

[Deliverance]

"The Israeli military’s “deliberate” use of heavy weapons in the Gaza Strip has been an “intentional and direct attack on the civilian population,” a new report by a United Nations-backed independent commission has found."

Israel’s Actions in Gaza ‘Intentional Attack on Civilians’: UN Inquiry | International Center for Transitional Justice

The Israeli military’s “deliberate” use of heavy weapons in the Gaza Strip has been an “intentional and direct attack on the civilian population,” a new report by a United Nations-backed independent commission has found.

www.ictj.org

 

[faible]

"The Israeli military’s “deliberate” use of heavy weapons in the Gaza Strip has been an “intentional and direct attack on the civilian population,” a new report by a United Nations-backed independent commission has found."

Israel’s Actions in Gaza ‘Intentional Attack on Civilians’: UN Inquiry | International Center for Transitional Justice

The Israeli military’s “deliberate” use of heavy weapons in the Gaza Strip has been an “intentional and direct attack on the civilian population,” a new report by a United Nations-backed independent commission has found.

www.ictj.org

The UN is Hamas though, no credible reports of Israeli war crimes or crimes against humanity.

 

[faible]

Quick, change the topic when you're wrong.

 

[Jazny]

Your games are old, you ask for a single specific thing that you need to disregard anything Israel do. Rather than looking and seeing the destruction and deaths as a whole, you need a specific phrase uttered by a single person to disprove a specific act you have made up in your mind.

An IDF soldier on site word that they were told to shoot anyone that crossed an invisible line doesn't count as that isn't enough proof for you, that's too simple, yet blowing up countless hospitals because Israel said it's was a Hamas command centre without giving proof is good enough for you to go on. It's crazy how little you care for deaths on one side of the wall.

I didn't ask for anything. I made a statement, faible disagreed with it, but made a bad argument.

 

[DapperDon]

You should be able to tell me what happened then, if you have heard the reports the ICC based their reasonable grounds finding on. Were the two incidents part of a broader policy? What incidents were they? What's the policy?

I didn't ask for anything. I made a statement, faible disagreed with it, but made a bad argument.

Classic Jazny

 

[faible]

I didn't ask for anything. I made a statement, faible disagreed with it, but made a bad argument.

Jazny: PROVIDE SPECIFIC EVIDENCE THE ICC HAS TO RAISE THEIR ARREST WARRANTS
Me: Is not the ICC.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

What do war zones normally look like where there is intense fighting? As someone pointed out, just in the firefight against Sinwar, 3 buildings were damaged badly, one basically destroyed. That's just to kill a few guys and none of that destruction would have been close to a breach of international law. That's not saying that Israel's bombing is always proportionate, but that war brings death and destruction.

How have you possibly managed to avoid the literally hundreds of self-posted videos of IDF performing controlled demolitions of entire Gazan neighbourhoods? The hundreds of videos of excavators tearing down Palestinian homes under no threat whatsoever?

You must be taking the piss, no one could make this post seriously.

The nature of a controlled demolition means the careful placement of shaped charge explosives to bring down entire neighbourhoods, this is not done under any sort of combat situation.

Civilian excavators have been used to demolish hundreds of Palestinian homes under no threat, purely to prevent Gazans returning to them.

That's just one more reason why Hamas should never have brought a war upon the people of Gaza, let alone use them and civilian infrastructure as human shields.

Absolutely deranged.

 

[Jazny]

Jazny: PROVIDE SPECIFIC EVIDENCE THE ICC HAS TO RAISE THEIR ARREST WARRANTS
Me: Is not the ICC.

Then why are you disagree with me? You haven't heard the reports either. The ICC is not even claiming to have reports of an Israeli policy of directly targeting civilians, they base their arrest warrants on two incidents that they hold Bibi to have command responsibility for for not reporting the incidents or preventing them. That's not to say their definitely isn't a policy, I just haven't heard any reports of one.

The UN report by UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory which claims Israel directed attacks against civilians, was basing that on the use of heavy bombs in a civilian areas and the destruction and civilian casaulties being as a result of disproportionate attacks in civilian areas, not actually explicitly aimed at civilians. I have already said you can make a strong case for war crimes by Israel based on proportionality. But what doesn't seem to be the case is that Israel are actually, by policy, targetting civilians with the intent to just kill civilians.

They seem to be targetting Hamas, but a lot of civilians are being killed and that is terrible, and any disproportionate attack or any policy of disregarding potential civilian casaulties in a way that is disproportionate should be punished obviously.

 

[faible]

They seem to be targetting Hamas, but a lot of civilians are being killed

Whoops we killed ten thousand kids.

 

[Jazny]

Whoops we killed ten thousand kids.

Do you think Israel has a policy of targeting children with no military justification whatsoever. Would this likely happen?

Soldier: I have eyes on a group of children playing in the street. I order an airstrike directly on them.
Commander: Okay, are the children posing any risk at all?
Soldier: No, they are just Palestinian children.
Commander: okay, any military in the area?
Soldier: No no, just children.
Commander: checks official IDF notes about killing children Okay it looks like we are good to go on that strike. presses the button

 

[faible]

Do you think Israel has a policy of targeting children with no military justification whatsoever. Would this likely happen?

Soldier: I have eyes on a group of children playing in the street. I order an airstrike directly on them.
Commander: Okay, are the children posing any risk at all?
Soldier: No, they are just Palestinian children.
Commander: okay, any military in the area?
Soldier: No no, just children.
Commander: checks official IDF notes about killing children Okay it looks like we are good to go on that strike. presses the button

I'm sure Israeli leadership would tell you it's justified. I'm sure Jazny will find those reports credible.

 

[Jazny]

I'm sure Israeli leadership would tell you it's justified. I'm sure Jazny will find those reports credible.

Dodged the question. Would it likely happen? Do you think that's what explains the civilian death toll? If not, you are starting to sound a lot like you agree with me after all.

 

[faible]

Dodged the question. Would it likely happen? Do you think that's what explains the civilian death toll? If not, you are starting to sound a lot like you agree with me after all.

There's an entire NYT investigation covering this. The ICC has arrest warrants for Israeli leadership for attacks against the civilians population.

But hey. Jazny doesn't see any credible reports, so it mustn't be happening

 

[Jazny]

How have you possibly managed to avoid the literally hundreds of self-posted videos of IDF performing controlled demolitions of entire Gazan neighbourhoods? The hundreds of videos of excavators tearing down Palestinian homes under no threat whatsoever?

You must be taking the piss, no one could make this post seriously.

The nature of a controlled demolition means the careful placement of shaped charge explosives to bring down entire neighbourhoods, this is not done under any sort of combat situation.

Civilian excavators have been used to demolish hundreds of Palestinian homes under no threat, purely to prevent Gazans returning to them.













Absolutely deranged.

Hey! I was just about to return to that building


Reminds me of the time you posted the video of an IDF soldier shooting an old long destroyed ruined building in a mostly abandoned village and it was captioned as though they were just randomly shooting people's homes in Syria.

I am making fun of you for posting dumb videos that don't prove anything, I am not claiming the IDF have never demolished a home unjustifiably. Or even that the demolitions in the videos are justifiable. I have no way of knowing, and neither do you. But your videos prove nothing. We know Hamas booby traps buildings, we know Hezbollah uses civilian buildings to store explosives and builds extensive tunnel networks that would be totally fine for Israel to dismantle.

I will wait for actual reports from the ground from credible sources. Not videos compiled by anti-Israeli propaganda twitter accounts. But you do you.

 

[Jazny]

There's an entire NYT investigation covering this. The ICC has arrest warrants for Israeli leadership for attacks against the civilians population.

But hey. Jazny doesn't see any credible reports, so it mustn't be happening

Dodge dodge dodge.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

I will wait for actual reports from the ground from credible sources. Not videos compiled by anti-Israeli propaganda twitter accounts. But you do you.

Quickes backtrack from 'intense fighting caused all this desolation' I've ever seen.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

I will wait for actual reports from the ground from credible sources. Not videos compiled by anti-Israeli propaganda twitter accounts. But you do you.

Hey do IDF spokespeople count as credible sources?



These are not legally justifiable reasons for demolishing civilian infrastructure. This is not 'intense fighting', this is a war crime.

Remember when those 21 heroic IDF were killed while committing war crimes? Rigging buildings for demolition?



Creating buffer zones by demolishing civilian housing is a war crime.

IDF says 21 soldiers killed in the worst incident in Gaza since October 7

Hamas terrorists fire anti-tank missile at buildings rigged with explosives near border with Israel ahead of demolition in efforts to clear area from threats to Israeli communities; fire triggers mass explosion, killing troops

www.ynetnews.com

 

[Jazny]

Quickes backtrack from 'intense fighting caused all this desolation' I've ever seen.

I would have actually have to have said that to backtrack from it. Could you please point to the part which I backtracked from?

"What do war zones normally look like where there is intense fighting? As someone pointed out, just in the firefight against Sinwar, 3 buildings were damaged badly, one basically destroyed. That's just to kill a few guys and none of that destruction would have been close to a breach of international law. That's not saying that Israel's bombing is always proportionate, but that war brings death and destruction"

The videos you posted appear to be from all over the place. The image I responded claimed to be from Rafah which has been the site of intense fighting. The house that was being demolished by a excavator or whatever that is looks like it has been bombed out and is unstable, if I were to guess, it was probably bombed or shelled in some way.

 

[DapperDon]

Do you think Israel has a policy of targeting children with no military justification whatsoever. Would this likely happen?

Soldier: I have eyes on a group of children playing in the street. I order an airstrike directly on them.
Commander: Okay, are the children posing any risk at all?
Soldier: No, they are just Palestinian children.
Commander: okay, any military in the area?
Soldier: No no, just children.
Commander: checks official IDF notes about killing children Okay it looks like we are good to go on that strike. presses the button

Yu are looking at this backwards, instead of saying Israel don't have a policy to target civilians how abut asking if Israel are taking all efforts to reduce civilian deaths. Can you provide proof that all measures are taken to avoid civilian deaths where possible?

 

[Jazny]

Yu are looking at this backwards, instead of saying Israel don't have a policy to target civilians how abut asking if Israel are taking all efforts to reduce civilian deaths. Can you provide proof that all measures are taken to avoid civilian deaths where possible?

No, that's why I have never made that claim.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

I would have actually have to have said that to backtrack from it. Could you please point to the part which I backtracked from?

"What do war zones normally look like where there is intense fighting? As someone pointed out, just in the firefight against Sinwar, 3 buildings were damaged badly, one basically destroyed. That's just to kill a few guys and none of that destruction would have been close to a breach of international law. That's not saying that Israel's bombing is always proportionate, but that war brings death and destruction"
The videos you posted appear to be from all over the place. The image I responded claimed to be from Rafah which has been the site of intense fighting. The house that was being demolished by a excavator or whatever that is looks like it has been bombed out and is unstable, if I were to guess, it was probably bombed or shelled in some way.

Do you think this level desolation is contained to just Rafah? Have you really not seen the rest of Gaza?

Yes, they demolish people's homes wherever they wish, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, it doesn't matter.

All they need do is say 'terrorist' and somehow the collective punishment of demolishing homes is 'totally fine'.

 

[Jazny]

Do you think this level desolation is contained to just Rafah? Have you really not seen the rest of Gaza?

Wait, what are you even arguing against?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

No, that's why I have never made that claim.

Do you think Israel just accidentally killed more than 200 journalists?

 

[DapperDon]

Do you think Israel just accidentally killed more than 200 journalists?

Ok Journos and Aid Workers, we are going to drop bombs on your cars,