Current WAR CRIMES Israel - * ICC issues warrants for Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu & Yoav Gallant & for Hamas's Mohammed Deif

[Kurve]

The ICC has also issued a warrant for Hamas leader Mohammed Deif, who Israel says they have killed.

According to the ICC, the chamber “found reasonable grounds to believe” that Deif was “responsible for the crimes against humanity of murder; extermination; torture; and rape and other form of sexual violence; as well as the war crimes of murder, cruel treatment, torture; taking hostages; outrages upon personal dignity; and rape and other form of sexual violence”.

It also said there were reasonable grounds to believe the crimes against humanity were “part of a widespread and systematic attack directed by Hamas and other armed groups against the civilian population of Israel”.

For Netanyahu and Gallant, who was replaced as defence minister earlier this month, the chamber “found reasonable grounds to believe” that they “each bear criminal responsibility for the following crimes as co-perpetrators for committing the acts jointly with others: the war crime of starvation as a method of warfare; and the crimes against humanity of murder, persecution, and other inhumane acts”.

It also found reasonable grounds to believe that “each bear criminal responsibility as civilian superiors for the war crime of intentionally directing an attack against the civilian population”.




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If you feel sad, this is the best.

 

[DapperDon]

Get's called out for punching down on people.
Complains that they're the victim.

Meanwhile

 

[Jazny]

Get's called out for punching down on people.
Complains that they're the victim.

Nobody cares about your disingenuous pearl clutching. I am guilty of punching down on settlers in area B. Go make mocking sarcastic comments about a civilian being killed in northern Israel by a terrorist attack again.

 

[Kurve]

Nobody cares about your disingenuous pearl clutching. I am guilty of punching down on settlers in area B. Go make mocking sarcastic comments about a civilian being killed in northern Israel by a terrorist attack again.

Has that been deleted?

 

[Jazny]

Has that been deleted?

Part of the conversation chain still exists in a quote in a post of mine.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

If I thought their criticism was remotely legitimate and not just faux outrage, I would have. No point explaining yourself to trolls. It's essentially what they want you to do.

Are you talking about me? Or did I miss something?

 

[Jazny]

Are you talking about me? Or did I miss something?

Not really, mostly GP, Faible and Dapper who all jumped in on it as if my little comment was me making fun of Palestinian houses or something. Most of the comments got deleted and they were trying to make out I am going "haha poor people" or something. It was obvious nonsense so I responded sarcastically.

I am sure you're probably aware those shacks were mostly built by Israeli settlers and I was questioning why those Israelis would want to live out there. Seems insane. Palestinians don't permanently live there even before October 7th, from what I understand, they are herders, they graze their sheep their seasonally and live in those shacks temporarily and move on to the next grazing area. It's called transhumance farming. The herders have abandoned the areas since October 7th due to increasing settler violence in that part of the agreed upon reserve.

 

[Kurve]

Hinging on Palestinian agreement.

Information obtained by Israel Hayom reveals that the UAE, which spearheaded the Abraham Accords in 2020, has agreed in principle to take responsibility for Gaza's management post-war. The emirates aim to rebuilt the region in a way that neutralizes any potential threat to Israel. Known for leading the Arab world in opposing jihad and the use of Islam for violence, the UAE is prepared to instill these values in Gaza.

https://www.israelhayom.com/2025/01/22/israel-and-uae-agree-on-day-after-plan-in-gaza/

 

[faible]

Hinging on Palestinian agreement.

Information obtained by Israel Hayom reveals that the UAE, which spearheaded the Abraham Accords in 2020, has agreed in principle to take responsibility for Gaza's management post-war. The emirates aim to rebuilt the region in a way that neutralizes any potential threat to Israel. Known for leading the Arab world in opposing jihad and the use of Islam for violence, the UAE is prepared to instill these values in Gaza.

https://www.israelhayom.com/2025/01/22/israel-and-uae-agree-on-day-after-plan-in-gaza/

https://www.reuters.com/world/uae-in-talks-with-us-israel-about-provisional-government-post-war-gaza-2025-01-07/

Reuters has an article on this possibly from a week or two ago as well when I look

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Israeli Hostages Held in UN camp: The three female Israeli hostages released last weekend following the ceasefire in Gaza revealed on January 21 that they were incarcerated in a refugee camp operated by UNRWA — the United Nations agency catering exclusively to the descendants of Palestinian refugees — for part of their time in Hamas captivity, according to Israel’s Channel 13 network. Details as to which of the eight camps run by UNRWA in Gaza were used have not been made available.

‘Den of Antisemitism’: Hamas Held Israeli Hostages in UNRWA Camps

Israeli Hostages Held in UN camp: The three female Israeli hostages released last weekend following the ceasefire in Gaza revealed on January 21 that they were incarcerated in a...

www.fdd.org

 

[faible]

Israeli Hostages Held in UN camp: The three female Israeli hostages released last weekend following the ceasefire in Gaza revealed on January 21 that they were incarcerated in a refugee camp operated by UNRWA — the United Nations agency catering exclusively to the descendants of Palestinian refugees — for part of their time in Hamas captivity, according to Israel’s Channel 13 network. Details as to which of the eight camps run by UNRWA in Gaza were used have not been made available.

‘Den of Antisemitism’: Hamas Held Israeli Hostages in UNRWA Camps

Israeli Hostages Held in UN camp: The three female Israeli hostages released last weekend following the ceasefire in Gaza revealed on January 21 that they were incarcerated in a...

www.fdd.org

Can’t wait for Zidane to offer his thoughts on this news source

 

[Kurve]

Can’t wait for Zidane to offer his thoughts on this news source

Israel's Ch 13 is reporting the three girls were held variously, in tunnels, apartments and UN compounds.

הוחזקו במתחמים של האו"ם: פרטים חדשים מעדויות החטופות ששבו | חדשות 13

יומיים לאחר ששוחררו משבי חמאס, רומי גונן, אמילי דמארי ודורון שטיינברכר החלו לספר על אשר עברו - וחשפו כי הוחזקו מתחמים של האו"ם, שהיו אמורים לשמש אוכלוסייה אזרחית

13tv.co.il

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Not really, mostly GP, Faible and Dapper who all jumped in on it as if my little comment was me making fun of Palestinian houses or something. Most of the comments got deleted and they were trying to make out I am going "haha poor people" or something. It was obvious nonsense so I responded sarcastically.

I am sure you're probably aware those shacks were mostly built by Israeli settlers and I was questioning why those Israelis would want to live out there. Seems insane. Palestinians don't permanently live there even before October 7th, from what I understand, they are herders, they graze their sheep their seasonally and live in those shacks temporarily and move on to the next grazing area. It's called transhumance farming. The herders have abandoned the areas since October 7th due to increasing settler violence in that part of the agreed upon reserve.

Your post contained photos of Palestinian homes that were stolen by Israeli settlers. I know where you sourced the images from.

You'll really come up with any old nonsense to excuse Israelis from criticism.

 

[Kurve]

Your post contained photos of Palestinian homes that were stolen by Israeli settlers. I know where you sourced the images from.

You'll really come up with any old nonsense to excuse Israelis from criticism.

They don't look like Palestinian homes, they look like settler outpost shacks. Especially the second one.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

They don't look like Palestinian homes, they look like settler outpost shacks. Especially the second one.

It's really beside the point. The fact is these outposts are in AREA B - land that had been transferred to Palestinian control, and as Jazny said until recently was protected from settlement.

That is now out the window. Area B is open season, and Smotrich is using 'national security' as an excuse to create more settlements in B, and even 'archaeological' settlements bordering Area A.

At Least Seven Outposts Established in Palestinian-Controlled Area B - Peace Now

In 2024, for the first time since the Oslo Accords, Peace Now’s Settlement Watch team documented the establishment of at least seven outposts deep within Area B. Five of these outposts were established in the area known as the “Agreed-Upon Reserve,” located east and south of Bethlehem. Two...

peacenow.org.il

 

[Jazny]

Your post contained photos of Palestinian homes that were stolen by Israeli settlers. I know where you sourced the images from.

You'll really come up with any old nonsense to excuse Israelis from criticism.

Im getting my information about the area from Haaretz and NYT who have visited these areas and said exactly what I said. Some of them are buildings Palestinian herders used, others are outposts that the settlers made themselves. My post actually contained criticism of Israelis



Here's another one an Israeli built. Not sure if it would survive a moderate breeze.

 

[faible]

Israel's Ch 13 is reporting the three girls were held variously, in tunnels, apartments and UN compounds.

הוחזקו במתחמים של האו"ם: פרטים חדשים מעדויות החטופות ששבו | חדשות 13

יומיים לאחר ששוחררו משבי חמאס, רומי גונן, אמילי דמארי ודורון שטיינברכר החלו לספר על אשר עברו - וחשפו כי הוחזקו מתחמים של האו"ם, שהיו אמורים לשמש אוכלוסייה אזרחית

13tv.co.il

Zidane is big on quality of sources, I assume he’ll be checking out FDD.

Meanwhile, aren’t most - all of the refugee camps run by UNRWA? Given the scale of displacement being the majority of the 2.2 million Gazans it’s likely the people running the camps have NFI who’s in them.

Unless this is another ‘the UN is antisemitic’ thing.

 

[Deliverance]

This would be a story repeated for more than a million people sadly.

'Every house reduced to rubble': Gazan family's painful return to Rafah

Leila and Ibrahim el Arja fled their home in Rafah, southern Gaza, in May last year. This week they returned, amid a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas, but what they found only added to their devastation.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Jazny]

It's really beside the point. The fact is these outposts are in AREA B - land that had been transferred to Palestinian control, and as Jazny said until recently was protected from settlement.

That is now out the window. Area B is open season, and Smotrich is using 'national security' as an excuse to create more settlements in B, and even 'archaeological' settlements bordering Area A.

At Least Seven Outposts Established in Palestinian-Controlled Area B - Peace Now

In 2024, for the first time since the Oslo Accords, Peace Now’s Settlement Watch team documented the establishment of at least seven outposts deep within Area B. Five of these outposts were established in the area known as the “Agreed-Upon Reserve,” located east and south of Bethlehem. Two...

peacenow.org.il

They aren't settlements, they are outposts. They are illegal, there is no running water, nothing. Some contain one person, another contains young settler activists, some in their teens. Places like this have existed in the past and Israel has gone in and pulled them down. Especially when the people in the outpost are involved in violence, so hopefully these ones won't last long either.

I was technically wrong. I said there are no settlers in Area B of the West Bank. There is like 20-30 maybe? Out of the 450,000 settlers that exist in all the West Bank. I should have said almost none. Or since I was responding to someone asking why the PA don't remove the settlers, maybe I should have said there are no settlers inside the area that the PA have full rights of construction over... at least as far as I am aware. Maybe there's one?

I am not sure if the PA have much power to do anything about the settlers in the agreed upon area.

 

[Kurve]

Zidane is big on quality of sources, I assume he’ll be checking out FDD.

It would be more polite if you tagged Zidane yourself if you want to know

Meanwhile, aren’t most - all of the refugee camps run by UNRWA? Given the scale of displacement being the majority of the 2.2 million Gazans it’s likely the people running the camps have NFI who’s in them.

Possibly but who's going to give Hamas up even if they knew the hostages were in there? It's probably a case of safety in pretending you saw absolutely nothing and keep your head down.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

They aren't settlements, they are outposts. They are illegal, there is no running water, nothing. Some contain one person, another contains young settler activists, some in their teens. Places like this have existed in the past and Israel has gone in and pulled them down. Especially when the people in the outpost are involved in violence, so hopefully these ones won't last long either.

That's what I said? In 2024 52 new outposts were established.

Between Sep 22 and Dec 23, 15 previously 'illegal' outposts were granted 'legal' settlement status. Havent seen figures for 2024. This is how cleansing and displacement of Palestinians works, it's a slow strangulation.

Hopefully you're right, I will keep you posted.

I was technically wrong. I said there are no settlers in Area B of the West Bank. There is like 20-30 maybe? Out of the 450,000 settlers that exist in all the West Bank. I should have said almost none. Or since I was responding to someone asking why the PA don't remove the settlers, maybe I should have said there are no settlers inside the area that the PA have full rights of construction over... at least as far as I am aware. Maybe there's one?

I am not sure if the PA have much power to do anything about the settlers in the agreed upon area.

I don't think the PA is going to do anything Israel don't want them to.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

This would be a story repeated for more than a million people sadly.

'Every house reduced to rubble': Gazan family's painful return to Rafah

Leila and Ibrahim el Arja fled their home in Rafah, southern Gaza, in May last year. This week they returned, amid a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas, but what they found only added to their devastation.

www.abc.net.au

Thanks to 'soldiers' like this.

 

[Deliverance]

Thanks to 'soldiers' like this.

Savages

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

It would be more polite if you tagged Zidane yourself if you want to know



Possibly but who's going to give Hamas up even if they knew the hostages were in there? It's probably a case of safety in pretending you saw absolutely nothing and keep your head down.

Unless they were complicit with Hamas? The girl who was part of a rescue a few months ago was held in the apartment of an UNRWA doctor and his son, both of whom were shot during the rescue.

UNRWA workers across the board if not actively taking part in Hamas’s armed action (although it’s well known some took part in October 7) are at least sympathetic to their motivations.

 

[Kurve]

It would be more polite if you tagged Zidane yourself if you want to know



Possibly but who's going to give Hamas up even if they knew the hostages were in there? It's probably a case of safety in pretending you saw absolutely nothing and keep your head down.

An article by Palestinian journalist Abd Al-Bari Fayyad, "Sednaya [Prison] and Gaza's Prisons – Two Sides of the Same Coin,"

"Amid our joy over the liberation of the people of Syria, we discovered a series of videos [that showed] Palestinians in Hamas's prisons being tortured with the same barbarity that was employed by the Assad regime before its downfall... Looking at both sides, we find a chilling resemblance between the Assad regime in Syria and Hamas in the Gaza Strip. Despite Hamas' claim that it cares about the people [of Gaza], the facts show that the opposite is true. Hamas' behavior proves that it is disconnected from reality, living on another planet, as if the daily massacres [in Gaza] are none of its concern. Hamas breaks limbs, causes pain and inflicts suffering on those [Gazans] whom the occupation has not harmed. Furthermore, Hamas and its media have many pre-prepared accusations [that they bring against people] to justify this barbarity, which cannot be justified.

Palestinian Journalist: There Is Great Similarity Between Hamas' Barbaric Rule In Gaza And The Deposed Assad Regime In Syria

In a December 17, 2024 article titled "Sednaya [Prison] and Gaza's Prisons – Two Sides of the Same Coin," Palestinian journalist Abd Al-Bari Fayyad wrote that there is great similarity between the barbarity employed by Hamas against its opponents and the horrific torture methods that were...

www.memri.org