Warlord V JHF

[Bucking Bronco]

3 seconds flat is far from the 50th percentile.

Phoenix Gothard ran a 3 second flat at the last combine and was in the 84% percentile.

 

[Sphynx]

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Im purely stating the Combine results from last year as I have them in front of me.

Oscar Ryan ran a 3 flat which is what Petracca ran and was in the top 25%.

It fluctuates year to year, even down to the testing range's of the equipment calibration.

 

[Dazb86]

Tough call. JHF does the flashy stuff very well. Plays a bit like Petracca and Wardlaw like Oliver.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Warlord looks more impressive at the same age as JH-F

One worry/knock on him is that he seems a bit injury prone, where as JH-F seems very durable and got body/frame that seems to be able to sustain a lot of hits and bumps.

He is a bit more athletic/zippy version of Nathan Buckley.

You would be bloody happy with either though

 

[Dazb86]

Probably worth noting Wardlaws TOG% isn't great yet. Definitely has a lot of room for improvement.

 

[TheUnicorn]

JHF

 

[Engimal v3]

Wardlaw. Better player and less of a pea-heart.

 

[Festerz]

Wardlaw. Better player and less of a pea-heart.

Anyone who’s seen young JHF play would know that’s an ignorant comment.

Edit: silly me, just checked your post history. Look I get it. I do. He’s a player you didn’t want to lose. We wouldn’t want to lose him either.

But grow up FFS. And get over your loss and look forward rather than silly troll posts.

 

[Engimal v3]

Anyone who’s seen young JHF play would know that’s an ignorant comment.

Edit: silly me, just checked your post history. Look I get it. I do. He’s a player you didn’t want to lose. We wouldn’t want to lose him either.

But grow up FFS. And get over your loss and look forward rather than silly troll posts.

Who are you, his mother? Good grief - someone buy Festerz a diary this Christmas.

 

[Ambrosia]

JHF’s ability to have an impact as a forward has him ahead of Wardlaw for mine

 

[Kommbat]

If they had that sport vs sport athlete challenge from a decade or so ago, GW would be the AFL's #1 pick you'd put up against someone like Billy Slater (and he's still only 19 years old) Slater was a cyborg athlete in most categories.

lol this is pretty laughable

 

[Sphynx]

lol this is pretty laughable

Why is that?

 

[Kommbat]

JHF way more dynamic and versatile. Wardlaw has unfortunately reached a level of hype that he may not live up to at this stage. No need to add pressure onto wardlaw, for a 22 gamer I think north fans already have put enough pressure on his shoulders.

As another poster said before wardlaw has the higher floor - even if he doesn't show much improvement he's still a consistently decent AFL standard mid, whereas JFH performance can fluctuate more wildly (for better or worse).

Whilst he's obviously shown some promise, Warlaw also lacks endurance, goes to ground too often and isn't a great ball user. Plenty of time to work on those aspects of his game.

I'd prefer JHF in my team overall right now as I'm unsure if wardlaw will actually make the grade as an elite player, whereas JHF is almost there already (perhaps fluctuates between elite/average)

 

[Kommbat]

Why is that?

the 20 year old who can't run out 4 quarters is the best athlete in the comp? pass the joint son

 

[Sphynx]

the 20 year old who can't run out 4 quarters is the best athlete in the comp? pass the joint son

It depends on what your definition of “best athlete” is.

In terms of most of the categories he's absolutely elite.

He ran a 600 yoyo in his draft combine which is above average. His TOG and the amount of pressure and the sheer amount of contested poss/defensive efforts for his age, certainly isn't anything like "cant run out 4 quarters"

 

[Sphynx]

JHF way more dynamic and versatile. Wardlaw has unfortunately reached a level of hype that he may not live up to at this stage. No need to add pressure onto wardlaw, for a 22 gamer I think north fans already have put enough pressure on his shoulders.

As another poster said before wardlaw has the higher floor - even if he doesn't show much improvement he's still a consistently decent AFL standard mid, whereas JFH performance can fluctuate more wildly (for better or worse).

Whilst he's obviously shown some promise, Warlaw also lacks endurance, goes to ground too often and isn't a great ball user. Plenty of time to work on those aspects of his game.

I'd prefer JHF in my team overall right now as I'm unsure if wardlaw will actually make the grade as an elite player, whereas JHF is almost there already (perhaps fluctuates between elite/average)

Speaking of joints....

 

[SSSSSS]

I think Hawthorn need JHF more than we would Wardlaw.

That X-factor Mid/forward is what we are lacking moreso than a contested bull.

Would be happy with either but I'd go the Hornet.

 

[ManOfClay]

Wardlaw is just as much of a bull but his general foot skills aren’t as good as JHF

This observation rings true at the moment.

Wardlaw is purely a stoppage mid, great contested bull. A bit like Tom Liberatore without Libba’s disposal by foot. At this point in time wardlaw just doesn’t have great kicking skills.

Wardlaw will need guys like Sheezel and to a lesser extent LDU (good technical kick but poor to average decision maker) to get the ball to in order for north to succeed.

JHF is more of a game breaker who can do it himself.

 

[FAIRANDBALANCED]

Is this real? JHF is almost the most talented young player in the game. Wardlaw looks excellent, tough as nails, but right at this time JHF is miles in front.

 

[bzparkes]

JHF at this stage.

Wardlaw looks good but goes missing a lot in games.

He has a great deal of upside but I'm not sure he has it in him to be the man like JHF does.

 

[SC_Power]

Not a fair comparison yet based on current experience, but I wouldn’t swap JHF for anyone.

 

[#Port Patriot#]

Be real, both slightly different types of players. As another mentioned, Wardlaw seems more of a Matt Rowell

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5.2

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3.8

5star

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17.4

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7.6

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0.8

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5.2

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player type but a Temu version. I can guarantee you, if North kept Hornet and got Sheezel plus still got Mckercher, they would of won more games this season. Guaranteed. Sheezel, LDU with Hornet is extremely higher talent midfield that would compliment one another more so than adding Wardlaw. If Pies had Hornet with Nick Daicos they'd be flying too. Sane as Hawks with Day in the mid complimenting.

Hornet has the ability to go deep forward and shows actual forwards up.

Less disposals but way more damaging.

People compare Sheezel to JHF but again, different types. Sheezel is compared to Nick Daicos.

All It needed for Hornet was to have his surgeries on his legs that he finally got thanks to Port and an actual pre season that he got too. Last year he had no pre season.

Hornet every day of the week. I dare say every coach if they had to choose between the two to add to their team it would be Hornet without even thinking.

 

[jackag24]

JHF easily at this point.

JHF has too many separating factors compared to Wardlaw.

• Pace / Explosiveness
• Goal kicking / Score Involvement
• Aerial threat / 1v1 contests.
• Clearance work
• Poise

Wardlaw probably has him beat in:

• Tackling
• Pressure
• Work Rate

At his best, Wardlaw has the potential to be as good as JHF in the midfield. But he will never be a forward threat like JHF.

 

[ManOfClay]

Wardlaw needs the off season. Recalibrate and rest. Was poor again today, and that was with a supposed AA ruckman feeding it to him against a couple of second stringers and a third tall defender.

Young body and a couple of knocks. He should get better

 

[My Tilly]

Can almost lock this thread now.
Wardlaw can kill it next year and still become half the prospect JHF has become.